Who Plays Class at level 50?

Hi guys, I am not a frequent poster but i could not find the answer to my question after an extensive search on the forums and google.... Does anyone play with their class anymore after getting level 50? if so...why and when? I know that they can be for solo but does anyone even bother changing back to their classes???

I just dinged level 50 warrior and i realized that I have never once felt a need to un-equip my soul stone since i hit level 30. Please help me shed some light on the subject.

Thanks,

It's up to the player actually, I've seen countless people doing just that and even in PF where it's classes only (including coil and other endgame content).

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Originally Posted by mhfan06

Does anyone play with their class anymore after getting level 50?

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No.

:( Sad face for Rogue.

If you do Solo-Content, the "Class" would be an better option. However, beside Alexandrite Maps ( little challenge for some maps ), there is no real Content which would be challenging enough to go as Class.... yet. For Party-Content the Class is inferior to a Job, which is meant for Party Content. This goes for PvE Content, while i "heard" that Classes can be really awesome in PvP as well.

At the moment the only time I can think of where a Class is potentially more beneficial than a Job, is using a DPS Marauder in T8.

Other than a few specific classes in PvP, probably not.

The few cross-class skills you can get will not make up for the loss of job specific skills and the stats boost by using a soulstone.

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Originally Posted by mhfan06

...i realized that I have never once felt a need to un-equip my soul stone since i hit level 30...

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I think you have found the truth. ^^

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Originally Posted by Nero

If you do Solo-Content, the "Class" would be an better option. However, beside Alexandrite Maps ( little challenge for some maps ), there is no real Content which would be challenging enough to go as Class.... yet. For Party-Content the Class is inferior to a Job, which is meant for Party Content. This goes for PvE Content, while i "heard" that Classes can be really awesome in PvP as well.

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And yet if you do Alexandrite fates as a class you wont get very far :P

Considering I've gotten all relic weapons and that my weapon compartment in the armoury chest is already nearly full just with that + having to keep a weapon around for every other class, nope.

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Originally Posted by mhfan06

I just dinged level 50 warrior and i realized that I have never once felt a need to un-equip my soul stone since i hit level 30. Please help me shed some light on the subject.

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I'd say that Marauder is more useful for soloing than Warrior pre-45. Using Defiance is pretty pointless solo and just makes stuff take longer to kill, while with Marauder you get access to abilities that help you live longer (Protect) and boost your damage.

Warrior only really starts to be better for soloing when you start getting the Warrior specific equipment that Marauder can't wear. The stuff that Marauder can also wear is typically harder to get than the WAR specific stuff. But once you're rocking those the stuff you solo melts easily anyway.

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Originally Posted by SirEdeonX

No.

:( Sad face for Rogue.

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Hmmm....that's also a reason i was asking....I really like the rogue class and the cool twin daggers etc....I don't mind Ninja but i think the classes are kind of a waste....Maybe they should create some incentives to class only.

How come your character information only show lv 26 MRD tho?

but anyway to answer your question. Some party require war to go mrd in T8 and T9. but it is "not necessary". War can do the task also. If you ask if it is better or not, then yes, it is better as MRD. Just like when you solo, people would say MRD also better.

So in party, you play class a little bit depend on situation, and when solo, if you bother, then you can also change to class to be more effective.

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Originally Posted by Gilthas

Warrior only really starts to be better for soloing when you start getting the Warrior specific equipment that Marauder can't wear. The stuff that Marauder can also wear is typically harder to get than the WAR specific stuff. But once you're rocking those the stuff you solo melts easily anyway.

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Do you have any examples? I'll be glad to gear up my Marauder for solo etc...just dont know where to look...Thanks!

Sure you can pretty much use any cross class skill you want if you unequip you soul stone, that is true.

You all do realize you take like a 10% stat penalty though by removing your soul crystal right? Sure, for maybe a dps job, you might be able to stack a bunch of dps cooldowns and try to make up the difference but... Even so, It seems questionable at best, or everyone would be doing it.

Your base stats (like strength, dexterity,etc) are hard to replace with just a cooldown unless you didn't have as many dps stats as other dps classes to begin with (like the mentioned warrior).

A heads up though, you also can't wear any of your job specific AF gear when you remove your soul stone either, but allagan gear, crafted gear and soldiery gear are options.

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Originally Posted by Alise

How come your character information only show lv 26 MRD tho?
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No idea...i have nothing at lv 26....doesn't it say main class: maurader lv 50 right by my name?

Going to be honest and say that I don't bother to unequip my soul crystal to go back to MRD. I don't really have enough cross-class skills to make it worth it, nor do I have a useful axe aside from my relic at the moment.

That said, even if I had the cross-class skills unlocked, I still wouldn't bother. Last thing I need when tanking as WAR is trying to use a useful cross-class skill that I don't have access to.

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Originally Posted by mhfan06

Do you have any examples? I'll be glad to gear up my Marauder for solo etc...just dont know where to look...Thanks!

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Your gear will have to be either Coil gear or Soldiery tome gear. Weapons would be either Coil weapon or Leviathan weapon.
But one of the main incentive to using class over job is the cross-class skills, which you will need to work on. Your ARC, PGL and LNC are all locked (and you can use PGL skills on WAR).

Until then, keep that soulstone on so you get your stats boost.

Who plays classes at level 50? I do, but only when I'm running around. I often run around with my archer instead of bard when I'm hunting for pelts or meats. In situations like this, there's no need to specialize. The job classes are designed with party play in mind while classes were designed for solo. Also I find that I can toss an occasional heal or raise if need be.

Have I seen anyone walk into endgame content or even hard content as a class. Nope. The reason why is that most battles and dungeons now have some sort of a special task for each job. DD's are required to burn mobs at some point. Having additional skills from jobs aide in mitigating more damage for tanks and healing for healers.

I have seen a GLD try to tank Darkhold; it was a heal fest and it was harder for him to hold hate not having shield oath. We won, but it took a bit more effort to control the balance of the party.

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Originally Posted by mhfan06

Hmmm....that's also a reason i was asking....I really like the rogue class and the cool twin daggers etc....I don't mind Ninja but i think the classes are kind of a waste....Maybe they should create some incentives to class only.

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You're looking at classes wrong. A WAR is still a MRD but with more tanking skills. Ninja is still a Rogue but with ninjitsu learned from the Doman.

I ran into a Marauder for Ifrit HM at one point on my Paladin. After the initial surprise, he pretty much challenged me in regards to taking hate.

I didn't take him up on his offer because I usually OT Stun for Ifrit HM anyways, so it didn't matter who was tanking.

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Originally Posted by Chihaya

Your gear will have to be either Coil gear or Soldiery tome gear. Weapons would be either Coil weapon or Leviathan weapon.
But one of the main incentive to using class over job is the cross-class skills, which you will need to work on. Your ARC, PGL and LNC are all locked (and you can use PGL skills on WAR).

Until then, keep that soulstone on so you get your stats boost.

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This is why they need crafted gear that keeps up with dungeon/raid/job gear. ilvl 100-110 gear that could be pentamelded with materia would be able to help fill the stat-gap and create some unique party dynamics.

You can't use relic weapons with a class... That's so far the most annoying thing for classes.

I play classes just to make derps playing jobs(poorly) look bad.

For example, CT, you're an ilv80 ACN, your OT is wearing minimal gear, only the Dragoon is overgeared to about ilv90, and you have to help out at Atomos because your party is heavy on range/casters, land an LB while Atomos is invulnerable, and still finish first, twice (because one group fucked up and everybody wiped). And then later downing Vassago first out of all the groups, meanwhile still being able to take care of all the bombs spawned around your area. Yeah. It kinda gives you a rather satisfying feeling that you're doing GREAT.