CC and WHM

Fluid Aura a mob away from the pack attacking the tank. Then repose the mob. Can help out those tanks that are having problem with aggro or mitigating damage. Also prevents mob from being woken by DPS AoE or Overpower from tank.

When the DPS are almost done burning the pack use Aero on the slept mob so by the time the pack is dead that lone mob is attacking the tank instead of having your tank run up to the mob.

Im pretty sure someone else has thought of this before. But no one showed me, so Im proud of figuring this out on my own lol. I main SCH and was leveling WHM for stoneskin when i discovered this.

Any other WHM do this?

Been doing this since release but one thing you should add is that apply every dot you can before you sleep the target as dots will keep ticking as the target sleeps.
Rinse and repeat but wake them up with a CS stone 2 and then fluid aura followed up by aero 2-> aero 1 *as aero 1 is instant and can be cast right after a spell, then sleep them again.
By then the group should be done with the other enemies. If they r close to killing the others i'll just aero it to wake it and make it walk back to me so the tank can grab it etc.
It's the beauty of the synergy of fluid aura and repose.
Also works well in pvp.

I started doing this when I learned it as a trick of my own but I stopped when I started having other WHM's do it while I tanked. Most tanks would rather have the comfort of knowing they have control of the mob and I never understood why tanks yelled at me for it until I saw how frustrating it was.

In PvP though it's great. Do it a lot there.

Tossing the mob away will prevent the tank from using AoE enmity moves on it (tank is likely to just run to the slept mob and get annoyed for having to do that). If the tank doesn't do this, you will gather more and more enmity on the mob while it's sleeping away and you're curing the tank. Sleeping extra mobs is ok (if required, which it usually isn't), but let the tank place the monsters.

Never ever push a mob away from a tank.

By pushing a mob away from a tank and then sleeping it, you are preventing the tank from using flash on that mob. Healers will still get aggro on that sleeping mob, even more if he used aero before sleeping.

You want to sleep a mob or use aero on it, sure. But don't push that mob away from the tank. Sleeping the mob without knocking it away from the tank will do what you are aiming to do better. Try playing a tank and you will know how frustrating it is.

SCH 1st job and WAR is my 2nd so i know how much it sucks to have pull aggro back on mobs chasing the healer. When I play WHM I allow the tank to get off some flashes or overpowers at the beginning of the pull. Then I do the FA + Repose combo. That way when I decide to wake the mob up with an Aero it runs to attack the tank. I rarely generate enough healing aggro during basic pulls that I surpass the tank on the slept mobs priority list.

I did have a tank tell me to stop doing it. I guess he felt undermined cause he said "I can handle it".

Others just dont mind it because Im careful about the aggro. By the time they (DPS + tank) finish the pack they have that freshly woken mob staring them in the face.

Healer pulls mobs away from me so he can sleep em to "take stress" off me, healer dies from foolishness, cause I am not chasing it down. The aoe dps is a good thing, it kills the mobs faster and generates hate. Win win. If you really wanna help cause you don't have enough to do healing, help dps the mobs that the tank is holding, don't take em away so they receive 0 aoe dmg and the pt just has to burn 1 extra mob at the very end when they could be done with that pull.

If a tank cant handle a standard pull or even a large pull like you do in speed runs, they need to find a different job to play imo.

Just remember Fluid Aura has a side effect, it stuns the person in your tank for 1sec. ^^;

Using fluid aura this way is typically ok, though if the tank doesn't feel comfortable with I'd just leave them be. Sometimes tanks will panic when they see mobs ping ponging around, and simply feel more in control with everything in flash/overpower range. The mistake that most conjurers make with fluid aura is knocking back a mob that they've pulled hate on, causing the tank to scramble around and lose focus on the primary target, thus losing hate to dps, etc. however, I see no issue with using the skill as you've described, as long as the tank is cool with it.

Sigh lol , some tanks like to over pull etc. when bodies plop due to lag, not dodging, or when i'm too busy healing the tank or the target that the mob is smashing, i try my best to subtract mobs from whoever is getting smashed.
As i have a lot of vit for a healer i tend to see myself as the 2nd tank. With how easy us whm can grab due to our emnity fluctuations, i would grab whatever leftovers and try to tank them myself till the tank gets back or whatever. That's when i will of course do the fluid aura repose thing. But what irks me is when dps go derp and start bashing everything in sight and waking stuff. Ffs i'm trying to survive the mob and u r just making it harder. But i been in these situations a lot so i come prepared lol

people actually sleep mobs when not doing a speed run? whats the point?

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Originally Posted by DarkLordCthulhu

Fluid Aura a mob away from the pack attacking the tank. Then repose the mob. Can help out those tanks that are having problem with aggro or mitigating damage. Also prevents mob from being woken by DPS AoE or Overpower from tank.

When the DPS are almost done burning the pack use Aero on the slept mob so by the time the pack is dead that lone mob is attacking the tank instead of having your tank run up to the mob.

Im pretty sure someone else has thought of this before. But no one showed me, so Im proud of figuring this out on my own lol. I main SCH and was leveling WHM for stoneskin when i discovered this.

Any other WHM do this?

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Please no. Fluid Aura should be a panic button. If something is hitting you, by all means Fluid Aura it. If everything is going fine and every mob is on the tank the way it should be, don't ruin that. Pushing mobs off tanks prevents us from using Flash and other AoE's on them. Odds are even on whether that mob goes for you or the tank when it wakes up if they don't chase it down, so they basically have to reposition everything. If you have melee dps, they're completely gimped during the few seconds the tank is dragging the mobs around. So no. Don't do this.

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Originally Posted by alhandra

people actually sleep mobs when not doing a speed run? whats the point?

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Depends on what the healer is looking to do. If you want to dps but your tank doesn't manage cooldowns well or isn't geared great, sleeping mobs is damage mitigation. This lets the healer freely dps with only having to worry about one mob's damage at a time. This becomes less necessary when you have an efficient tank or once you've acquired divine seal + regen, but is still a viable backup for tanks that have problems managing hate or incoming damage.

On the other hand, if the healer isn't going to dps, sleep is pretty much useless since no crowd control is necessary in dungeons.

Remember those good ol' amdapor keep days when the tank decides to be a badass and tank a mob + a dullahan ?
That surprise iron justice Hitting you for over 3k. I remember those days lol cuz i see it often with tanks lol. Just cuz they have a healer on standby doesn't mean they should eat a cone like that cuz when a succubus decides to hit the tank with thunder right after that iron justice is just too lol wtf.
I rather piss off the tank with fluid aura then to have a dead party.
Cuz when push comes to shove i see that i need to protect my 2 dpsers more than the tank.
Tbh most dungeons don't need a tank till you get to bosses or so.
Fluid aura is for my safety and for others.

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

Remember those good ol' amdapor keep days when the tank decides to be a badass and tank a mob + a dullahan ?
That surprise iron justice Hitting you for over 3k. I remember those days lol cuz i see it often with tanks lol. Just cuz they have a healer on standby doesn't mean they should eat a cone like that cuz when a succubus decides to hit the tank with thunder right after that iron justice is just too lol wtf.
I rather piss off the tank with fluid aura then to have a dead party.
Cuz when push comes to shove i see that i need to protect my 2 dpsers more than the tank.
Tbh most dungeons don't need a tank till you get to bosses or so.
Fluid aura is for my safety and for others.

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If your tank is dying to one mob + a Dullahan, Fluid Aura isn't gonna help. You'd have to have either terrible gear or a terrible healer to die to that under normal circumstances. Facetanking a cone AoE like you mentioned isn't "normal circumstances" though; that's just plain stupid and you really can't help stupid. I do huge pulls in AK and I never have any problems dodging Iron Justice even with 2-3 Dullahans in a group.

I think the next time a WHM randomly Fluid Auras a mob off me, I'm just not going to go get it. I'm going to tank the rest of what I've got and let it wake up on its own and go hit the WHM, since tanks aren't needed or anything. :P

Well... You can use that combo in Brayflox HM. Just right before the 1st boss fight, where the tank usually trap 2 mobs outside. You can push "poison plant" away and then cast sleep. Btw, that push has the ability to cancel mobs AoE attacks so, you can interrupt their casting this way. If your tank is close to a wall, just push any mobs to that direction and successfully interrupt casting. Your idea is not false darklord, just need to find smart use of it :)
Keep coming up with new stuff.

@ ash
You need to understand that
Most players that run AK nowadays are either fresh, need it for gc , book or for some reason gear.
3/4 times it'll be fresh AF i50 ish geared players as all of the "pros" have no more use for AK thus never running it again.
That's you and this is them, as a healer; i have to put up with it and compensate in order to garuntee we clear the dungeon.
So i'll repose, fluid aura, dps whatever i see fit that will ultimately help out the issues with the group.