Bebe WHM

Hello all!

Just wanted to share my experience with WHM. I am rather new to it, just finally did the job quest this weekend. I have NEVER healed before, well a couple times on RDM in XI but that was the pits.

I vowed to never do it again and took on the motto of I kill, I don't heal.

My main is PLD. That being said wouldn't you know I needed StoneSkin, which in turn meant that I had to lvl CNJ to 34. I put that off for a fair amount of time but eventually got around to it.

I was very anxious at first. First time really healing a duty was Brayflox. ALl before that were cake, due to low level and all. Brayflox was where I started to evolve I guess.

I played it till 34 and then dropped CNJ. I got stoneskin so I was done.

Just recently I became interested in WHM again. To see how well I could perform or how terribly I could fail at it.

For S&G's I entered a low level roulette and got Halitali. OMG that was fun!! I am using the <tt> macros, so while I am focused on the Tank, and he is topped up I can cleric and pop DPS stuff, turn cleric off and heal up.

The part that solidified this job getting to fiddy for me was the last boss. During the phase where he is invulnerable and the floaty fires come out, the DPS didnt realize they had to smash those so we got the crazy AOEs. We all gathered and I popped a medica and top healed. Let em know they had to smash em, then when the second round came I solo'd a whole set, AND kept everyone up!

Not a big feat by anymeans, but for someone who is never on the heals side that was neat. WHM is not just heals, there is debuff and dps in there too. I can wait for what is to come.

Thanks for listening!!

Syn

Sounds like a lot of fun. My friend had never played healer in any mmo, leveled a scholar and was hooked. He now plays that as his main.

Glad to hear you enjoyed it! Healing may not seem as glamorous as lobbing fireballs or swinging a sword around, but I really love the impact that a strong healer can give to a group. Pulling someone's butt out of the fire and bringing the group back from wipe material can be very exciting and satisfying, and I hope you keep at it :)

Yeah, WHM has a very versatile kit and they can be very bursty. Good job pulling your team out of the fire in Hatalati! ;)

Just got da REGENS...OMG I loves it. It like "Casts regen", Cleric > DPS (heals if needed), cleric off, wait, regen, repeat lol. I know that's not right but it is working for these levels so far.

Definitely a worthwhile choice to lvl.

Syn

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Originally Posted by Synestr

Just got da REGENS...OMG I loves it. It like "Casts regen", Cleric > DPS (heals if needed), cleric off, wait, regen, repeat lol. I know that's not right but it is working for these levels so far.

Definitely a worthwhile choice to lvl.

Syn

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Just remember that regen will pull aggro if it's ticking for the next pull. Try out presence of mind with stone 2 for a dps buff.

I will try that, using it to shorten cast time to get out more I take it.

Progressing along as well, just hit 40 and working towards 41. I am noticing more though on the newer duties I am not as "free" to dps like I was. That is OK though I am here to heal, no kill...for now.

UPDATE!!

Just dinged 46 last night. All class quests up to date. On track for that Master Conjurer's Ring. It will get quickly replaced with a myth piece for sure but I'm a collector.

This healing gig is pretty fun and not as bad as I thought it would be. Enjoying my heals ride for sure.

Question, should I worry at all about CT gear or go straight myth? Fill out CT spots till I get myth? I also have some pieces of Allagan from previous farms. I'm almost there lol, then I get to do the relic runz!! **can't wait**

Syn

Know the feels, I've been dps in all the mmos I have played, even during ARR launch. Now that I decided to return I chose to try out healing this time. I'm loving it, it is really fun...can't wait to become whm.

It's a lot of fun, that's for sure. and holy in dungeons like brayflox is pretty OP: aoe dps almost as good as a black mage :D. For single target healing and dps'ing though, you might wanna give SCH a shot. In T8 last night my sch friend was adding around 120 dps to the boss for a lot of the time. I think he ended with a total of ... what did they say it was... maybe 90-100 dps? Very helpful. Once in T6 and T7, we had DPS races so it was kinda like chicken on who was going to have to heal the tank at any given moment hahaha.

When gearing up a WHM, most players stack DET or spell speed as their secondary stats. These provide you with more consistent healing without the risk of overhealing that stacking crit on your equipment causes. The meta has shifted recently in favor of Determination since those produce slightly stronger heals while spellspeed is useful but also is less mp-efficient (requiring better mp management). I can't say whether this will hold once 2.3 and the battlegrounds pvp holds up, so feel free to experiment. I personally use a combination of DET and crit and it has worked out for me.

Anyway, you will want to mix and match your gear to focus on 1 or 2 of those secondary stats. Build up Myth and CT until you can replace the CT with allagan. The Vortex ring of healing from garuda extreme is also something to work towards as a whm. Also from the soldiery sections, consider the daystar accessories and gloves for bis.

I have read into the determination on gear for heals stuff and have decided to go that way for sure. Would you recommend melded accessories for this or just straight myth and allagan? Farming both will be easy since I have different options for gaining these.

Thanks in advance!

Syn

Hi, if you can craft or have enough gil to spend, the melded HQ Astral accesories are very good. You can meld VIT and DET, for example, I obtained two pieces. They will also serve for other jobs, like the BLM if you decide to level it.

I have the sensation that eventually you end leveling all classes. Since you need a cross-class skill, you level to 26 or 34 or whatever, and then once there one day you finally level to 50.

It happened to me with WHM. Once WHM you want swifcast, and you end leveling up the THM and finally BLM. But then you want some cross-class from archer and probably you end leveling the BRD, etc.

LOL yep, PLD, BLM, DRG, BRD all fiddy, soon WHM. For WHM I wanted to get eye for an eye, so looks like I need ACN to 34, but heck, why stop there, choose either SMN or SCH to take to 50....lol it's never ending. Luckily I have been able to cross some gear between them here and there.

Syn

I remember when I fell in love with healing. Playing DPS before and then you get tired of waiting for things and just being another face in the crowd. You become meaningful. I love seeing the green numbers pop up as players lives rely on me. I originally was a White Mage. Upon my return here I decided to go MNK because I do love the class so I started over from scratch and when I finished MNK went to leveling my WHM at 34 I decided I wanted to be a Scholar and I haven't looked back. I'll make 50 SCH today and I can't wait for healing end game content.

Yea, SCH looks pretty dang fun. Not sure if I want two heals classes though, but why not...I have three DPS classes already. Decisions...decisions.

If u need a 2nd i100 ring and can't get it in coil try going for the pvp i100 ring lol :p

I was in a similar situation as you when I started healing in this game. I absolutely LOATHED healing in XI, my first party where I was delegated to main heals in XI was a really bad experience (RDM level 30ish in yuhtunga mandy party). I wanted to support/DD, not be heals (and haste/refresh) only. Immediately went to DNC after that horrid experience and didn't look back until I had level 75 dancer (I started XI in '07 or '08).

That said, in other games I always liked healing and support, as well as attacking. Which is why RDM was my go-to at first, jack of all trades and all. (eventually got both RDM and DNC to 99 though, a couple years after aby came out).

I chose bard when I started XIV, closest thing to support in the game lol. I was being pressured by a couple friends to go WHM, but I wouldn't hear it. Healing in XI soured any potential for me to try healing in XIV. Eventually after I beat the story and all and watched some WHMs do their thing in dungeons, I made an alt character. Leveled WHM on her some to see how it is. I got her to 50 and then promptly leveled it on my main (it's my main job now lol).

Also the base class is what levels up, so if you level SCH to 50, you will have 50 SMN as well.

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Also the base class is what levels up, so if you level SCH to 50, you will have 50 SMN as well.

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Wait,...wot? Seriously. So if I decided to lvl either SMN or SCH, depending on which, the other would gain lvl's as well? I would have to have the soulstone unlocked I would imagine. I know that when you level the job, the base get's the exp as that is how it reads in the logs, but I had no idea it worked like that for ACN (SMN,SCH). That kinda makes it more enticing to do so.

So WHM hit fiddy over the weekend and I am comfortable with the job. The hardest healing I have had to do as of yet was Aurum Vale. That got pretty intense at times. My feat in there was on coincounter, seeing as he/she is pretty easy in terms of scripted moves, both DPS ate it a couple times. Me and a friend tank handled it well. I was able to get them up, twice each lol, and we continued for the win. Holy in there is awesome as well.

I finished the day off with a CT run just to see how it is. It is definitely different from a heals perspective. A lot of stuff going on in there. Hardest part there was KB. Keeping regens up is the key I think for dealing with the electricity. Medica two is nice there for the added regen. I am pretty excited to get WHM into some coils, Ultima ex, and primal runs. Just need to gear up a bit.

Syn

Sorry for the long time since the post. Anyway, If you are stacking Determination, you will eventually want to build towards the Allagan set. The Astral Ring is i70 and you can stack enough materia (refer to comments for materia caps) in to it to turn it exceed an i90. Keep in mind materia is fairly expensive right now with the Novus, so you may buy either the daystar and get the garuda ex rings before you can afford it.

As an Arcanist 30, you will qualify for both SCH and SMN (since you have both THM and CNJ at 50). The biggest issue is that it is difficult to min/max both since they share a base class and thus, attribute stats. So you will see ACN with 30 points in INT, ACN with 30 pts in MND, and those split 15INT/15MND. It all depends on personal preference for that. Just know that in terms of return, INT gives more damage to SMN than MND gives to SCH heals (approx. 50 more hp healed for 30 MND).

Aurum Vale is pretty brutal on the healers, but I'm glad to see you managed to clear it. You can probably handle most dungeons up to Ampador Keep that way.

CT is seriously a pile of fun. I'm glad you managed so well with it.

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Yea, SCH looks pretty dang fun. Not sure if I want two heals classes though, but why not...I have three DPS classes already. Decisions...decisions.

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My main is WHM... been healing for 7 years on XI so to give it a break i started as THM. then guess what? Endless DF queues, hubby had a PLD, so I bent my head and went WHM again (it's halfway addiction halfway comfort zone :p) that done i finished BLM, then SMN. SCH came as a bonus to SMN, and sat there until... until it was time for T5 and my static, with 2 WHMs, was struggling to heal conflag phase. so I took one for the team and did my quests as SCH (which inherited my WHM gear minus 1pc). after you get used to the new icons (it's tough when you start @50) and the different healing mode (proactive vs. reactive), it fits like a glove and fairy micromanagement goes pretty smooth. I prefer soloing on WHM for dailies/fates but SCH works well with me... i just miss my medica 2 :p

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I'd say farm CT while your gearing up since you get 150 myth per CT run. Worry about upgrading your lowest ilvl first before making sure you have the best stats so any gear you can get from CT will help raise your ilvl. Once you are in the mid 70s low 80s you should be able to start doing SRs of brayflox (50myth/~10mins for the first 2 bosses). I would say around i80 you could start pugging Coil turns 1,2, and 4 (no gear from 3). Which drop i90 gear that can help you gear up further.

You will need 1150 myth for your relic zenith (250 for relic and 300X3 for zenith) so I'd save that. Also I'd get the soldiery ring first with soldiery since there is only 1 other i90 ring you can buy (myth). As a WHM I'd rank the i90 rings in the following order Vortex (Garuda EX drop), Allagan (Coil Drop), Hero (Myth). I just got my Vortex ring of healing for my WHM and I'm i100 but the other 2 are very easy to get.

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Yea, SCH looks pretty dang fun. Not sure if I want two heals classes though, but why not...I have three DPS classes already. Decisions...decisions.

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You can heal just fine with all your bonus points on ACN in INT. You will lose at most 50hp per physick and 40 hp from adlo. so if you want to do both SMN/SCH that would be my suggestion.

My group normally does T5 with double SCH due to the healing debuff the tank gets. And lustrate is just OP.

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I finished the day off with a CT run just to see how it is. It is definitely different from a heals perspective. A lot of stuff going on in there. Hardest part there was KB. Keeping regens up is the key I think for dealing with the electricity. Medica two is nice there for the added regen.

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Yeah Medica 2 is really useful in the KB fight, at higher ilvls you can almost fully rely on it to heal your party (aside from tanks on IG and KB). Often I'll pop it and help kill the bombs and pop aero and aero 2 on KB.

Although WHM tip for the KB fight; don't pop Medica 2 until after the Iron Giant is under control. I say this from experience lol (both from healing and being the IG tank). Shroud of Saints is your best friend if you get hate from any mob and people are trying to get it off you but are having trouble (popping SoS reduces your current enmity, making life easier for both you and the tank).

Very nice info all. I was unable to get in game at all this past week. SO I feel as if I am behind a bit. Should get back on track this week though. Gotta get caps done and then decide on spending order, PLD is my main. My usual order was PLD, BLM< DRG, then BRD is like the red headed stepchild. Getting whatever other stuff drops lol. But now WHM is in the mix. Kinda stinks having limited playtime but a few jobs that need gearing lol.

I'll update shortly.

Syn