This is getting ridiculous!

I've now completed 400 fates in Eastern Thanalan alone and NOT A SINGLE ATMA DROP IN SIGHT!
If we do the math on this ..
10% Drop rate would mean 1/10 drop
In other words I should've gotten it within 90 fates at least.
400 and no drop .. That means the drop rate is below 0.25% This is absurd!

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Originally Posted by MelchiorArvalis

I've now completed 400 fates in Eastern Thanalan alone and NOT A SINGLE ATMA DROP IN SIGHT!
If we do the math on this ..
10% Drop rate would mean 1/10 drop
In other words I should've gotten it within 90 fates at least.
400 and no drop .. That means the drop rate is below 0.25% This is absurd!

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ran·dom [ran-duhm]
adjective
1.proceeding, made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern: the random selection of numbers.

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Originally Posted by Logo

ran·dom [ran-duhm]
adjective
1.proceeding, made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern: the random selection of numbers.

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I am well aware that it's random but setting a random percentage this low is absurd. They want us to keep playing but this is getting out of hand. 400+ fates during the course of 5 days is too much.

I had similar problem when I first started Atma hunting, but then I tried a different tactic....

Do fates in 1 area for no more than 30 mins (fyi, you dont have to be there for the whole fate or be there at the end of it to get an atma drop), and if I didnt get any drop I would move on to the next area.

Needless to say I thought my luck had changed as I managed to get my first full set of atma in just over 10hrs of gameplay (I did 4hrs first day and 4hrs 2nd day and 2hrs 3rd day). I didn't count how many fates I participated in, but this tactic worked for me and many other player friends I know who now do the same. It's not a guarantee in anyway, but for some reason you seem to get a better drop chance rate within the first 30 mins of being in a zone. Just rinse and repeat until you're on your last atma.

I can only suggest you give this a try and you never know :D

cont...

fyi I got my full first set of atma within 3 days after starting the new tactic, and I am now currently working on my 7th set (now that I have all my jobs to 50 and able to do the atma mission), and I can pretty much get at least 4 atma every day without staying in one area for more than 30 mins at a time (btw I do between 4-6hrs or 4 atma a day which ever comes first).

Oh and I don't follow any zone pattern when I did/do them, but I have noticed that I always seem to go back to Southern Thananlan more often than the other zones lol.

Either way, I wish you all the best and GL on your atma hunting.

Took me forever to get my first in central thanalan, 20ish hrs of farming I believe. Tried the server time thing, was a bust, tried just pounding out a zone til I got em, took forever most the time, the I limited myself to 1 hr of farming per zone, if I didn't get it, I moved to the next. Whichever zone tickled my fancy at the time.

I am now on my 3rd set.

Not sure if there is a burn out in a zone or what but it seems to be more affective if you don't stay in one place too long.

It actually took me around 400 fates to get my first Atma. It sucks and it's a pain.

Thanks for the tips people. I really like to finish one area at a time .. So Thanalan was my first area to finish. But I guess I can try out the switch every hour and see how it goes.

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Originally Posted by Logo

ran·dom [ran-duhm]
adjective
1.proceeding, made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern: the random selection of numbers.

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tell that to dudeee and his statistics, he's a madman.

Mix it up, rotate the places.

Always make sure you are using zenith and aim to get gold but dont spend the whole time at the fate.

Turn in 7-8 items, tags 9 mobs then leave and move to the next.

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Originally Posted by MelchiorArvalis

This is getting ridiculous!

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Wrong. The name is "Ziz is ridiculous".

*duck* *cover* *run* :-P

Think I got my atma from eastern thanalan on my second fate there, but it's the only time something like that happened. Every other atma took a long time. Now I am having no luck getting any alexandrite from fates. Bleh.

Hmmm yeah I tried to get my first couple day ago..spent 2 hours at one place..got so angry so spent another 20 min sending like 15 angry cuss letters to Square...made me feel better..then last night i was waiting for a coil party to fill so just did 1 fate really quick and got my atma drop :D

For the sake of your sanity, mix up what you're doing. Spending several hours at a time in one area is just going to drive you crazy.

Also I dunno where you got 10% from, but it's actually closer to a 2.8% chance, based on other people's numbers over time. Still, that doesn't mean you'll get it within 97 tries either, it could be more, or less.

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Originally Posted by MelchiorArvalis

I am well aware that it's random but setting a random percentage this low is absurd.

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Who says they set an actual percentage at all? Random: You either get it or you don't. So I guess 50/50 chance but no actual drop rate. I'm sure there is someone who has gone 1/1 on all. Even still drop rates, especially observed, mean diddly. If we take your observed .25% drop rate and someone's observed 100% drop rate we get a 50.125% drop rate which obviously doesn't mean anything to you since you're at a .25% (or less) observed drop rate.

There was a reported drop rate of 89% with a large sampling size for an item in FFXI and I went away getting it after about 213 kills I think it was. Again, observed drop rates don't mean anything in the end.

Since many people got 12 in 20hr and many people got 1 in 20hr, and everyone said they were grinding same hard.

I would say the drop rate is RNG by player but not by item, as I saw random drop rate for random player, some have 50% and some have 0.05%