Hey Ferne! You need to explain something curious...

Sorry if this has been asked before but why are the primals Elezen?

I know we are leaps and bounds more evolved than any other race out there, but there has to be some link between us and Primals.

If you look at the concept art Shiva is Elezen, Ramuh has the Elezen look/ears and even though you cannot see ears Garuda has tell tale Elezen traits like our long slender neck and facial features, even titan looks like an Elezen who gorged on too much crowned pie!

So whats the connection between Elezen and Primals???

Elezen and Lalafell's are creatures of elemental evil and need to be eliminated, situation explained. =P

Neither Ramuh nor Garuda are Elezen, nor do they look as such.

Shiva does, however. My friend and I think its because the Ishgardians are the ones who will be summoning her.

Just because they have pointy ears does not make the Primals elezen (or lalafell too for that matter). It would be like saying 'they're miqo'te' if one showed up with a tail and animal ears.

Oh, and Garuda is a humanoid bird - of course she has a 'long slender neck' - so do the Ixal that worship her.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Just because they have pointy ears does not make the Primals elezen (or lalafell too for that matter). It would be like saying 'they're miqo'te' if one showed up with a tail and animal ears.

Oh, and Garuda is a humanoid bird - of course she has a 'long slender neck' - so do the Ixal that worship her.

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Nope, look at this photo.
http://cdn.staticneo.com/w/finalfant...x-Lalafell.png
pure unadulterated evil I tell you.

Btw, in case anyone can't tell.
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73...12200eced6.jpg
it's the internet someone would think I was being serious.

... Elezen

http://www.gengame.net/wp-content/ga...estiary-10.jpg

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/50490829.jpg

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The Ultima Weapon. A creation capable of sealing the primals within it, and using their power as its own. But who really built this unstoppable juggernaut of destruction? Could the Allag really have created something this advanced, thousands of years before the advent of modern civilzation?

Or was it, as some Ancient Allagan Theorists believe, crafted by hands not of this realm?

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not of this realm?

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Or is it actually of this realm in contrast to what your gut tells you?

Oh mournful voice of creation...

You know maybe not all the Primals are Elezen but there is some new room for speculations according to recent lore from 2.4 (Binding Coils of Bahamut) if my belief is somehow true the Elezen are somehow superior with connection to the Gods and the Echo then other mortal and the power bore from Louisoix and Alisae in the binding Coils of Bahamut are something from a long line of powerful Allagan sorcerers whom may have had a connection to the Twelve themselves. melted down Elezen are superior to other species in terms of connections to the planet's Aether therefore Elezen would likely be the most likely catalysts for creating a Primal most notably Shiva, Ramuh, and Garuda are in fact the most obviously likely to be Elezen before they were even Primals whatever they did that got them turned into Eikons most likely through interacting with the Twelve they became the Primals that we know now.

Shiva can be explained by the fact that her base body, Iceheart, happens to be Elezen. None of the others fit with the idea at all, and the primals tend to be similarly shaped to their worshippers (Ramuh and the Sylphs being fairly rotund, Garuda and the Ixal having long bird like necks).

Well, that and Shiva likely was an Elezen, or at least her followers most likely think she was. As near as I recall Ishgard is primarily Elezen after all, right?

Based on the racial composition of Ishgard, odds are that Saint Shiva (the historical figure) was Elezen.

Well maybe there appearance is not entirely fit for an Elezen but did you know that Louisoix actually turned into Phoenix with the power of the Twelve after he defeated Bahamut. I am rather convinced that Garuda and Ramuh were at one point Elezen I do find it unlikely that Bahamut, Odin, Good King Moogle Mog, or even Titan was Elezen but they had to have been mortal beings whom were given power from the twelve and probably turned into Primals by an even greater power like Zodiark and then summoned by those who like remembered them for some great all mighty deed and hence their prayers brought those Primals into the mortal realm in the form that they had taken when they called upon the Twelve to grant them power that is by all means the best explanation for how they came to be.

If Elezen are so special and unique in how attuned to Aether and spiritual stuff, then how come, in a place full of Elezen, all Padjal are Midlanders?

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Dude... Why the hell would you just post that without spoiler tags? I just had the biggest plot point in the game ruined because you watched it on youtube and were too lazy to spoiler tag.

You're just being silly, clearly Padjal are all Highlanders. Though honestly the Padjal bit seems kind of odd in general, I wonder if we'll ever get more of an explanation on them.

I don't know but the only explanation would be because of that connection to Aether the Elementals would NOT turn an Elezen into something related to a Padjal either because it would be to dangerous or because of immunity as for like Lallafells, Roegadyn, and Mi'qote it might simply be just dangerous in their case perhaps Mi'qote have already been through a related process and became there own species in fact I think the most likely reason for Midlanders getting turned into Padjal is because Hyur are basically the catalyst for creating a unique race while Elezen on the other hand may in fact have been the catalysts for the Hyur race to begin with so there you have it.

Is that so? well maybe someone please show me how to put in a spoiler tag or whatever you prefer to call it and also I grant my sincerest apologies.

Or... and this might seem pretty crazy, but the Elezen are not any more or less special than any other race when it comes down to it. They aren't required to make Primals, nor are they involved in the creation of Primals. It sounds like a lot of reaching or just general misunderstanding in general when it comes to XIV's lore.

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Is that so? well maybe someone please show me how to put in a spoiler tag or whatever you prefer to call it and also I grant my sincerest apologies.

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It's the [ HB ] code, or the question mark in the line with the formatting options when you go to make a post (in advanced view).

Speaking of formatting.

/throws some punctuation at you

{Please use it.}

It doesn't make sense for ANY primal aside from Shiva to be Elezen. They are not based off of any member of the Five Races, but are depictions of the gods of the beast tribes. Why would any of them worship an Elezen? Especially since a lot of these tribes have presumably been active for as long as, if not longer, than the Five Races have even lived in Eorzea.

This all feels really reaching.