PC hardware surpass recommended but still low FPS

My Wife just upgraded her GPU her graphics is improved but still has a 30-40 FPS range at max settings the new card is a nvidia GTX 750 ti when she runs it looks like she's rubber banding, we are wondering if it could be an issue with our internet, her power supply is 460w so it can handle the card, any idea what could be the problem could be? do we need a different card that would run the game at max settings with 60+ FPS without changing the power supply?

edit; forgot to add that the directx was upgraded to 11 not sure if that would effect it any.
PC specs
CPU: i7 3770 3.40
RAM: 12GB
Vid Card: nvidia GTX 750 ti
OS: Windows 8 (went back to 8.0 after upgrading to 8.1 due to issues, but thats before the new card)

and all drivers updated today

What is your processor?

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Originally Posted by Pantz

What is your processor?

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its an i7 3770

Eh, first off probably should head over to the Technical Support Forum with this.

That said, let's go ahead and get some of the customary stuff out of the way:

List your specs:
CPU:
RAM:
Vid Card:
OS:

I see you've mentioned a CPU/Vid but having it together helps considerably. Edit your OP with that info to help those that come in help you out.

Additionally, are your video drivers up to date?

ok updated OP

Good jorb. Sadly, that's about as much help as I can be here. Getting indepth with hardware tech support's generally outside my range of expertise. Just seen enough to know what's almost always asked for as a start.

Edit: Derp, meant to edit my post with the above instead of quoting it.

I have the same problem, and have since given up on it. I now play on PS4 and it runs much smoother. On PC I was getting a max of about 40-50 FPS in areas without much sunlight or people around. But when I moved my camera fast there was a massive FPS dip down to about 10, and when there were any number of people around, shadows or lighting I would be getting about 20.

Stupid question, but when was the last time you've removed dust from fans GPU CPU PSU and MB?

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Originally Posted by Awrini

Stupid question, but when was the last time you've removed dust from fans GPU CPU PSU and MB?

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today when I changed the GPU out.

Shot in the dark, but it could well be Windows 8. 8 is very much not a normal OS, it's focus is more towards tablets than an actual desktop. Just a guess.

If you can look at your CPU and GPU temps when under load, heat can cause a dip in FPS.

If you're seeing obvious rubber banding then it could very well be internet. For that card 30-40fps is probably pretty reasonable on full settings. Have you tried dropping the detail down and seeing if it makes a difference? For checking your latency I'd suggest getting the trial version of WTFast and watching the ping graph, it will clearly show any problems you have with latency or rubber banding.

Let me list off some basics:

Firstly, check to see if you have the latest drivers for all your components. Make sure your GPU driver is compatible with your Motherboard, and only download the driver from your respective provider. Secondly, check the temperatures of your components when they're in heavy load. There are plenty of free online software that can monitor your fans, your processor, how much RAM is being used, etc. If you're looking for a all-in-one type program, I would recommend CPUID HWmonitor. Lastly, check the settings of your game through your GPU control panel. Nvidia has plenty of ways to customize your in-game settings. Is vsynch on? Do you have anti-aliasing problems? Could you have wacky rendering settings up that are preventing from objects loading properly? The problem could be very major or minor, so I would recommend setting everything to default and tinkering until you see a difference.

Hopefully something above will help you out, otherwise I have no idea what it could be without further information.

Mmmm... just to get these things out of the way, there's some questions that need answering:

- Is the low FPS consistent? As in it doesn't matter what you do, you will always get 30-40 FPS.
- Have you tried adjusting certain settings? Essentially a trial and error thing, particularly with shadows. Even if your hardware blows a games potential settings out of the water, it doesn't mean it'll be 100% compatible to do so, due to drivers not being optimal for the way the game is coded and whatnot.
- Do you experience this slowdown with other games, movies, programs, etc? It may not be the game, but something else that is either running or showing signs of faulty hardware.
- Do you have any hidden programs running in the background?

Your internet connection SHOULDN'T be causing FPS issues. The only way I can see that happening is through a rubberband effect that's causing too many things to happen at once (dropped connection that gets reestablished while you're still logged in, so you see things just teleporting around).

There's nothing wrong on your end. I've been experiencing the same thing since the alpha. There basically isn't anything we can do until either a.) nvidia releases ffxivarr specific drivers or b.) dx11 client.

Have you set all video related programs not to auto start in the task manager?

IDK for a GTX 750Ti on max settings (assuming 1080p) 45FPS sounds about right. Yes it surpass the GTX 660 recommended specs but SE doesn't say GTX 660 or higher guarantees you a 60FPS on max settings thou.

Download the FF14 ARR benchmark program and run it on max setting and see what's your benchmark score. If it comfortably crosses the highest tier but still getting 45FPS it might be due to incompatible driver as other said.

1 issue some people have is not having proper chipset drivers installed. with intel you definitely need these or your performance degrades badly
run dxdiag and make sure directx is seeing everything properly
check your video card drivers you may need to upgrade or downgrade for compatibility(remember that newest isnt always going to fix issues but sometimes will)

1st glace GTX 750Ti

The way Nvidia works normally is

750 = just below 660
660 = just below 570
570 = just below 480

There is a big different between 750, 760, 770, 780, and 790.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gp...750+Ti&id=2815

GeForce GTX 780
8,049
GeForce GTX 770
6,208
GeForce GTX 680
5,715
GeForce GTX 670
5,388
Radeon HD 7970 / R9 280X
5,134
GeForce GTX 760
5,003
GeForce GTX 580
4,972
GeForce GTX 660 Ti
4,684
Radeon HD 7950
4,647
GeForce GTX 750 Ti
3,646

So really the 750 TI is below the 660

Maybe cpu and gpu doin' their job, but hard disk is slow for a number of reasons.

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today when I changed the GPU out.

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That mean you changed to this video card? If so that maybe the issue, did you have an amd card before? Risidual drivers maybe the issue.
I assume you did a clean driver install and not just overwrite the old drivers. Finally... you should turn down ambient occlusion and stuff like that, as it can hinder fps w/o offering much to you.

Kewitt pretty much nailed it. While you have a newer 7 series card, the model and power of it are below recommended. X60 > X50

Generally speaking, that 750 Ti should be able to handle the game - however, not with the performance you are expecting (60fps). This would be especially true at higher resolutions as the card is handicapped by its VRAM's bus speed (128 bit). There are a few things that you could stress, to increase your performance overall, but I would think the ideal scenario would probably to replace the card with at least a 660+.

Things I would recommend.

Download GPU-Z and see if the card is being ran at PCI-E 3.0 or 2.0 speeds. I would recommend using a PCI-E 3.0 slot for this card, also one that has a x16 lane. This can be viewed in GPU-Z under "bus lane". I recommend this because motherboards can be funky sometimes and when changing graphics cards, I have noticed that my bios likes to override my PCI-E settings - which limits my bandwidth. Also doing this through GPU-Z can verify if the slot is 3.0 or 2.0 as well, without having to open up the pc or touch bios.

Power settings. I could not stress this enough for gaming. Most PC's, laptops and modern OS's feature some sort of power saving feature - or many. If your power settings in windows are set to "balanced" or "power saver" you could be losing quite a bit of performance for gaming - or anything for that matter. I always recommend using the "high performance" setting in windows, and limiting, or turning off any bios options for additional power saving features. This game is CPU heavy, and while your card is not a top performer, you really shouldn't be having issues playing in "standard" quality at a 1080p res. Similar to GPU-Z above is CPU-Z. This can be used as a tool to see what your current CPU clock speed is. If you run this and your CPU speed constantly fluctuates, or is lower than its rated speed (or the overclock you set?) chances are you have a power saving feature turned on. Again, this can save power and money on your utility bill - but at the cost of lower gaming performance.


Processes running in the background. Perhaps you have a program that is running in the background that is bogging everything down? A lot of anti virus programs have been known to steal quite a bit of PC power while scanning, same would go for windows updates and a multitude of other software. You could be a control freak about it like me and monitor your task manager like a hawk, or do it the lazy way (which is still a good way IMO) for this, I recommend game booster. Amongst quite a few other things, can temporarily close any non essential or needed background processes/programs at the click of a button, to free up your PC more. Additionally (and I apologize for writing a book) indexing can be a huge culprit for CPU performance loss. I always make sure to turn indexing off.

There are a lot of interesting responses I would like to debunk, but I am too tired. I also apologize for writing a book, I saw your post while I was at work earlier and I could not log in to respond, since I didn't have my security token >.>.

Please know that the DX11 client is not going to work better for your card. If anything, it is going to perform even worse, as a DX11 client would require even more GPU power and VRAM. It sounds like your drivers are ok, as you only just swapped out your card, and then your issue arose (from my understanding), and I would also recommend using standard settings for your card in FFXIV.