Archers stop QQ.

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07-22-2011, 10:17 AM
Kensei

Archers stop QQ.

My main is an Archer and you never want to get any nerf but we were honestly doing way more damage than the other classes by far. And not only were we doing too much damage we didn't even have to move! All the other melee DDs had to keep running around chasing the mob while we sat back, out of Area of Effect range to boot, firing away.

This will weed out sheep Archers from real ones. I was tired of people being Archer because they did damage not because they genuinely wanted to play that class. Heck, I never saw a single Archer use Quelling Strike other than myself. Most of you don't even know what that ability is.

If you truly want to be an Archer you will shut up and learn to play it. We didn't even get nerf that bad. You want to see something sad? Look at Thaumaturge. They are the ones who can complain all they want and have my support.
07-22-2011, 10:18 AM
Forbin

Archer here saying change is GREAT! Keep making changes to the battle system to make it more engaging other than SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM.. anything that takes us away from that and more towards a battle system with some depth and skill involved is FINE WITH ME! DO IT SE! LOVE THE PATCH SO FAR!
07-22-2011, 10:19 AM
Rau

Colonel? You switched to Selbina? :o
07-22-2011, 10:30 AM
Kensei

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Originally Posted by Forbin

Archer here saying change is GREAT! Keep making changes to the battle system to make it more engaging other than SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM.. anything that takes us away from that and more towards a battle system with some depth and skill involved is FINE WITH ME! DO IT SE! LOVE THE PATCH SO FAR!

This measure was more to force Archers to learn restraint and I think it will work that way.
07-22-2011, 10:32 AM
Vanguard319

The fact that they made Bloodletter and Foeseeker stronger helps, but 15 seconds is an eternity in a fight, if it were halved I wouldn't mind as much, at least we still have trifurcate.
07-22-2011, 10:33 AM
Reika

15 seconds really isn't that long anymore...
07-22-2011, 10:34 AM
Forbin

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Originally Posted by Rau

Colonel? You switched to Selbina? :o

Yep! but I don't think I'm the same Colonel Forbin you're thinking of :) It is a song from a pretty popular band ;) PHISH ALWAYS WINS! I was on Saronia
07-22-2011, 10:35 AM
Kensei

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Originally Posted by Vanguard319

The fact that they made Bloodletter and Foeseeker stronger helps, but 15 seconds is an eternity in a fight, if it were halved I wouldn't mind as much, at least we still have trifurcate.

I honestly mainly used Multishot to open and when Ferocity was up. Now we have to look for alternatives. It definitely will be out of my rotation though, I will now only use it in NMs and such. Still not that big of a deal, we can definitely look for alternatives.
07-22-2011, 10:36 AM
darkstarpoet1

yeah, you can give your opinion all you want, but others have their opinions on this joke of an update if they feel the need to do so. it's not your decision on what others feel or think.
07-22-2011, 10:38 AM
Kensei

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

yeah, you can give your opinion all you want, but others have their opinions on this joke of an update if they feel the need to do so. it's not your decision on what others feel or think.

You clearly main mages. I feel your pain. Just hang in there!
07-22-2011, 10:40 AM
Capita

I think it's pretty hypocritical to tell people to stop sharing their opinions while forcing your own.

Just sayin'.
07-22-2011, 10:41 AM
Kyra

I like the changes, the new enmity icon will make me use quelling strike more often. The multishot changes will make trifurcate more usefull. And you can still do a 3 arrow +raging strike opener on a mob, it just takes 15 seconds longer lol.
07-22-2011, 10:41 AM
darkstarpoet1

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Originally Posted by Kensei

You clearly main mages. I feel your pain. Just hang in there!

yeah clearly...... you must know me and my playstyle so well. i put con as my main on the site because it's the only class i hate more than culinarian in the game.
07-22-2011, 10:46 AM
Kensei

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

yeah clearly...... you must know me and my playstyle so well. i put con as my main on the site because it's the only class i hate more than culinarian in the game.

I only said that because you seem pretty upset with the patch and mage classes were hit the hardest. Maybe I was wrong and it's not my right to tell you how you should feel.

My problem is with Archers who now show all they did was spam multishot and are upset they can't keep doing so. If they like the class they will keep enjoying it regardless if they are not topping dps chart by a wide margin. I mean why else would someone stop playing Archer because of the change to one ability. Mages were structurally screwed.
07-22-2011, 10:48 AM
Vanguard319

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Originally Posted by Kensei

I honestly mainly used Multishot to open and when Ferocity was up. Now we have to look for alternatives. It definitely will be out of my rotation though, I will now only use it in NMs and such. Still not that big of a deal, we can definitely look for alternatives.

fair enough, I'm not crying about it, I'm still waiting on the patch to finish updating, so I can't make a fair assessment anyway, I can imagine that it will lead to new playstyles for arc, and that in itself isn't a bad thing. I do worry whether I will still be able to solo if I wish however.
07-22-2011, 10:53 AM
Capita

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Originally Posted by Kensei

My problem is with Archers who now show all they did was spam multishot and are upset they can't keep doing so. If they like the class they will keep enjoying it regardless if they are not topping dps chart by a wide margin. I mean why else would someone stop playing Archer because of the change to one ability. Mages were structurally screwed.

My problem isn't with the timer on Multishot. I wouldn't mind a 30 second timer on it.

It just doesn't make sense to me that it's 15 seconds to nock each arrow. It's just counterintuitive.

Might as well make it like Trifurcate.
07-22-2011, 11:01 AM
Kensei

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Originally Posted by Capita

My problem isn't with the timer on Multishot. I wouldn't mind a 30 second timer on it.

It just doesn't make sense to me that it's 15 seconds to nock each arrow. It's just counterintuitive.

Might as well make it like Trifurcate.

You are right. It would make more sense if we got all 3 from one multishot but we gotta work with what we are given. We'll see how they react to all the anger about mages and archer.
07-22-2011, 11:24 AM
Alxa

I'm 50 ARC, 50 CON and 45 THM

ARC and THM needed to be nerfed. The only reason I was trying to get THM to 50 next was because they pwned CON for healing - thankfully that's not the case anymore. THM will likely get buffed down the road for what it's meant to do - which isn't heal.