Where is the Keepers of the Moon Tribe?

Hey there was wondering where the village/ tribe is for the Miqo'te Keepers of the Moon.
The Keepers of the Sun have the U clan. But where is the moon equivalent, or some reference to it?

Simply put, Keepers of the Moon are somewhat more independent and matriarchal, hence they don't actually form tribal groups like we Sunseekers do, but instead prefer small family groups. Hence Moonkeepers tend to be more transient, rarely forming communities of their own (instead they will usually just settle in another city or town established by one of the other races - Gridania specifically is a popular choice for Moonkeepers). Those that don't usually end up running afoul of Gridania's strict policy on poaching, thus many Moonkeepers end up resorting to banditry to survive.

Besides, given your devotion to Menphina, you Moonkeepers are more likely to be outside hunting and offering reverence to the moon when everyone else is in bed, thus making actual Moonkeeper settlements somewhat redundant. ;)

The archer questline has you in conflict with a Moonkeeper tribe/poaching gang in South Shroud.

I feel obliged to point out that the Forgotten Springs settlement is very probably just one of many other "prides" of the Sun Seeker U tribe. I say this because I've seen other members of the tribe in places as far removed from the desert as La Noscea. I find it even more unlikely that U'odh Nunh is the daddy of every single U tribe miqote I see in the game. There are likely to be other prides of U tribe miqo'te around, just that they don't get a starring role in the game.

The same can probably be said of Moon Keeper tribes. They're out there somewhere in Eorzea. You just don't get to see them in the game itself.

My guess the Moon, alone with Princess Luna and the Lunarian part of Gensokyo:p

On a more serious note, I don't know but I think they might be in Gridania

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

My guess the Moon, alone with Princess Luna and the Lunarian part of Gensokyo:p

On a more serious note, I don't know but I think they might be in Gridania

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Don't you mean Princess Serenity??? cause last I checked Loony Lovegood wasn't a princess....

But yes, the Miqo'te of the Keepers of the Moon tend to be predominately located in Gridania. You can distinguish Keepers from their Seeker compatriots by the fact that Keepers don't have single letters separated by an apostrophe in front of their names the large majority of the time. The most notable of the Keepers of the Moon representatives, show up in the Archery Guild's main storyline. In fact it could be argued that the Archery Guild storyline serves the secondary purpose of also being the Keeper of the Moon main storyline as well.

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Originally Posted by Tharian

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It also helps to reinforce the fact that many Keepers are bandits, thieves, poachers, and criminals.

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Originally Posted by Zidaryn

The Keepers of the Sun have the U clan.

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The Keepers of the Sun have 26 different tribes (each designated by a different letter of the alphabet), and just one of them (or as TinyRedLeaf pointed out, just a portion of one of them) has a clear settlement. It seems Miqo'te are all rather widely dispersed. Though they identify with a particular tribe, they apparently only rarely live together in tribal groups.

(I wonder if they all had tribal homelands before immigrating to Eorzea. The mass migration of the Fifth Umbral Era just seems like a likely time for a tribal society to become so dispersed.)

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Originally Posted by gornotck

It also helps to reinforce the fact that many Keepers are bandits, thieves, poachers, and criminals.

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In a sense, but not in such a negative light. Remember that Keepers tend to prefer "traditional" aspects of their culture, and hunting is a huge part of that. The only problem is that hunting is frowned upon by Gridanians because they believe forest life has just as much right to live in peace as they do (by virtue of the Elementals). What we have is simply a clashing of cultures. Neither side is right, but neither is wrong as well. They are just both too stubborn to stray from their own ways. It's also complicated by the fact that, unlike most of the other clans and races, Keepers are nocturnal for the most part, so they don't interact with others nearly as much. This leads to an air of mystery and lack of understanding, and people innately fear what they don't understand.

We're not a tribe, we're a clan. Seekers of the sun form tribes, keepers of the moon don't.

But to answer your question, as stated above, there are two places in the Black Shroud where some keepers of the moon have formed makeshift settlements. One is Taker's Rot near Quarrymill, and the other is on the Upper Paths, near Camp Tranquil. It is also explained in character creation that a large number of keeper of the moon Miqo'te settled in Gridania - and if you check, almost all Miqo'te npcs in Gridania are indeed keepers of the moon.

Pretty much, the npcs are split into two "factions" in-game; those that live outside Gridania within the Black Shroud and continue their ancestral hunting (the Couerlclaws) and those which don't, and stay in Gridania. The archer quests prove that the Coeurlclaws are pretty disgusted with their "domesticated" sisters.

Hope that helps!

Late, I know, but there is a levequest in Quarrymill that references some female keepers and a "breeding male" being caught in traps around the area. More evidence that they live around there if they're having kids.

Which reminds me-- where are all the children in this game? Were they all killed in the calamity?

Yeah, the archer and lancer quests gives you some good lore on the current state of Duskwight and Keeper clans as they relate to Gridania. Keeper NPC's are easy enough to find in Grid, where as most other Miqo NPC's in the other cities are Seekers. There is still a great deal of distrust of the Duskwight in Grid as many of them choose to live outside the city and often resort to becoming bandits. There is a concentration of Keeper poachers in South Shroud. How Grid defines poaching, exactly, is not something I think is fully spelled out. The Gridanians tend to think of anyone who is not a part of their nation as violating the will of The Elementals. Another oddity in South Shroud is that, while Keepers are supposed to be Matriarchal, there is a "Coeurl King" who is actually part of a FATE down there.

There is some lore about how Grid had a major reconciliation with the groups that had chosen not to join it at the founding of the city state. There are still many among the Duskwight and Keepers who shun city life, however.

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Originally Posted by Saikou

Another oddity in South Shroud is that, while Keepers are supposed to be Matriarchal, there is a "Coeurl King" who is actually part of a FATE down there.

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Yeah, a couple of friends and I were wondering about him so we hung out in South Shroud until that FATE popped. Sadly we weren't able to keep him up long enough to see what eyes he had but his colouring is much more Seeker than Keeper. Mind, all his concubines look very much like Keepers so I'm still not quite sure what's going on there.

Apologies for the ridiculous state of my UI in this shot.

http://evilgiraffe.dreamhosters.com/...oeurl_king.png

I just spawned the fate and checked his eyes out:

http://i.minus.com/ibgPazZHbR812p.png

He's a keeper. :]

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Originally Posted by lilirulu

He's a keeper. :]

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http://mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/...fw2219-c36.gif

Now I'm really curious as to what's going on there. Is it too much to hope they get a Mail Moogle quest even another South Shroud FATE already got one?

You know, I think Moogle Mail is a cool idea to visit some of these issues we don't get a lot of direct storytelling on. Though I wonder what we'd be delivering to The Coeurlclaws? A cease and desist order from The Twin Adders? A continuation of events started in the archer questline? I dunno, but there are certainly possibilities.

I'd probably say that the quest would be something along the lines of a Coeurlclaw poacher sending an anonymous letter to her sister/ close friend who defected and became a wood wailer or something. Or maybe a Romeo and Juliet situation where two lovers send letters to each other? I don't really care personally, as long as the quest gives us plenty of Moonkeeper lore.

Another point though. There are very few npc miqo'te males (so much so that you can probably count them on your fingers) and even fewer who are moonkitties. Apart from Coeurlclaw king up here ^ are there any other Moonkeeper males in the game at this point?

There is also that mopping male miqote in heavy armore sitting in the corner in Buscaroons bar.

Since the delivery moogle involved a FATE npc (wow I had no idea and I used to do that FATE to, lol) I wouldn't mind if they involved the courel king. What if the Couerl king displaced the moping miqote we see? Breeding males are rare, strong breeding males is rarer.

Just because the population lore wise isn't properly shown in game or any MMOs (50+ npc in each three city states couldn't be described as the only population existed), and that could apply to other non city like settlements scattered in the game

Oh wow. I never even noticed him! Though he's a Seeker and not a Keeper.

And he doesn't look very mopey:

http://i.minus.com/i5ffWByVf9rcS.png

Ah, I just saw him. That's the Courelclaw King?

No, he's presumably just a random adventurer/sellsword down on his luck who is just drowning his sorrows (judging by the empty bottles on the table next to him), hence why he tells you to "let him be" if you go near him. I still remember the stir he caused back in the Alpha test as he was literally the first male miqo'te of either clan players got to see (the Coruel King FATE didn't exist at that stage because the Alpha didn't have FATEs).

Male miqo'te were long stated as being stubbornly independent and transient and hence this was the reason given as to their rarity (that and like their mithra brothers in FFXI, were often kept by the ladies of the tribe for breeding purposes ;)). It just so happens this independent streak goes well with adventuring, given that adventurers are free-spirited and go where-ever they wish, thus the fact there are probably more male miqo'te as player adventurers than npcs in other professions. But I digress...

I like how most of the respondents here are miqotes :-3

I guess the Miqo'te like to keep(Urgh so sorry) track of their lore ~Nyaa