Anti-RMT idea

RMTs use a program that sends the same tell to everyone on the server in the same exact second.

So why not just add a two second wait requirement before a second tell can be sent? It wouldn't hurt actual players plus it would hinder RMT's tell spamming.

I don't get Tell spam, I just get another tell in about 5 seconds, so it wouldn't work...by the time
that all happened, I would of blocked the RMT anyways lol.

There are many ways to skin this cat, SE just do not want to do it.

Some methods:
-- Every tell to a new personal that is not on your FC/LS/friendlist costs 1000 gils, fee is waved when the other side replies back.
-- Like Party invites, tells sends a "msg waiting from xyz" with a 30 second delay, and must be approved for viewing. In other words, a tell from a player you do not know must be approve by you first.
-- Quest given ability

IMHO, any time delay, is moot, because RMTs is a bot, they can wait as long as you can, or they log into a new char and move on to the next char in their rotation. Heck, there is a delay in creating new chars, but you saw the good that did, none.

jc

Tell spams is not RMT. It's just advertisement, a side effect from the real RMT issue. Deal with the real RMT issue, then the spams will automatically stop.

The root of the RMT issue? Those who create the demand for gilsellers to exist. Deal with them first.

Only way to stop RMT is really that SE sell gil on their own for a very good price that RMT's can not compete with and having a profitable bussiness.

My RMT stop idea: Disable trading GIL or sending it via letter , if the RMT cant distribute gil they be gone :P , it also stops selling runs for gil at the same time lol

I think they would do just as well sending tells every 2 seconds to the next person in the list.

I suggest Square target the means for RMT to exist - the buyers. Simply employ staff to act exactly as gil sellers undercover (obviously using new names periodically to not become discovered / known by buyers). This will be a trap to catch and ban many buyers and discourage many, many more to the point genuine gil sellers don't have a worthwhile market with FFXIV players.

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Originally Posted by AttacKat

-- Like Party invites, tells sends a "msg waiting from xyz" with a 30 second delay, and must be approved for viewing. In other words, a tell from a player you do not know must be approve by you first.

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Ugh. That sounds more annoying than just getting a tell.

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Originally Posted by Velo_Vandore

I think they would do just as well sending tells every 2 seconds to the next person in the list.

I suggest Square target the means for RMT to exist - the buyers. Simply employ staff to act exactly as gil sellers undercover (obviously using new names periodically to not become discovered / known by buyers). This will be a trap to catch and ban many buyers and discourage many, many more to the point genuine gil sellers don't have a worthwhile market with FFXIV players.

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Entrapment is illegal in many countries.

Do people use /tell feature this much just turn it off in you general settings if you don't use it that much and magically the spams stops. Turn it on if you see something you want to respond to someone for a shout if ect after done turn back off easy solution to my problem at least.

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Originally Posted by ReiszRie

Entrapment is illegal in many countries.

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That's irrelevant since SE isn't the police and isn't pressing any criminal charges when dealing with RMT. It's purely a matter of contract law and I'm fairly certain the EULA/ToS/etc. in no way prohibit SE from doing sting operations.

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Originally Posted by Inquisitor

That's irrelevant since SE isn't the police and isn't pressing any criminal charges when dealing with RMT. It's purely a matter of contract law and I'm fairly certain the EULA/ToS/etc. in no way prohibit SE from doing sting operations.

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Thats open for interpretations, i'm unsure if entrapment is a legally valid way to entice the accepting party of a contract to violate the terms in order to claim for a breach.

Just came up with something else that MAY stop gil sellers, and buyers.

Currently they all use moogle mail to do their trade, how about only allowing ONE mail that is valued under 1M gils to go thru per day, and any additional mails/larger amounts needs to wait for clearing house approval - Turn around time? 3 days, like a bank clearing house.

Case:
1: Player A trades with player B for set of iL90 weapons, 10M gils. Both are legit players, transaction is on hold for clearing, 3 days later, transaction goes thru.
2. Player A trades with player B (B = gil seller), 1M gils goes thru from B to A, rest pending for clearing. SE catches the HUGE transaction from B to many other players, ALL transaction from B removed from game, and gil confiscated. All players involved are banned from game.

This allows SE time to police ALL gil related transactions in game, and a place for them to screen for gil sellers.

jc