Fix Behest Please

I think Behest should be tweaked back a little to the way it was..Allow the max number as before so that everyone that is waiting for the Behest can participate. Adjust the difficulty of the behest by the number of players in it and add a "miniboss" to spice it up and have it drop something worth holding onto. What does everyone else think?

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Originally Posted by Coombah

I think Behest should be tweaked back a little to the way it was..Allow the max number as before so that everyone that is waiting for the Behest can participate.

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They did this in the hopes that people would spread out to other camps, and they increased Behest frequency to every 30 minutes to compensate for smaller parties. Increasing the max number of behest participants means increasing the max party size. It isn't gonna happen.

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Originally Posted by Coombah

Adjust the difficulty of the behest by the number of players in it and add a "miniboss" to spice it up...

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Isn't this how it works already?

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Originally Posted by Coombah

and have it drop something worth holding onto.

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Like what?

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Originally Posted by Coombah

What does everyone else think?

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Yoshi-P already said somewhere that Behest was gonna get a facelift as part of the changes to questing and such, so no harm in discussing it, I s'pose.

I guess behest is alright how it is. Though. Rank restrictions would be nice. Some people will join Horizon behest at lvl 11, or level 30.. and kiill EXP, and if you kick them from your party, they hop on a rank 50, and kill everything.

I still say the reward for behest lies in the extra xp you can get twice per hour. Adding in tangible rewards will serve only to flood the market with soon-to-be useless stuff.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

They did this in the hopes that people would spread out to other camps, and they increased Behest frequency to every 30 minutes to compensate for smaller parties. Increasing the max number of behest participants means increasing the max party size. It isn't gonna happen.



Isn't this how it works already?

Like what?

Yoshi-P already said somewhere that Behest was gonna get a facelift as part of the changes to questing and such, so no harm in discussing it, I s'pose.

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Well these hopes failed ; Everyone is still doing the same thing. They did up the time limit but then you got people whom claim the behest constantly not giving other players a chance to participate. It's your oppinion that it won't happen. anything is possible if players wanna see a change.. oh and thanks for your comments.

Nope it isn't, Last time I seen anything similiar to a "Mini Boss" was the Kobolds in LL Behest.

Like what? The possibilities are endless , dark matter , gear etc.

You should earn points every time you do a Behest, similar to faction points, that let you redeem said points for certain pieces of gear. Nothing too extravagant, just low-to-mid level gear and the like that could be redeemed from a NPC in each of the cities. And every city could have different gear, so people do Behests in more than one region.

Post your behest feedback here, please:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ehest-Feedback

So you're saying that every camp that has behests are ALWAYS packed and you can't ever participate?

Changing Behest to every 30 minutes was the best thing that ever happened to it.

I think a smart idea on SE's behalf would be to make the battle wardens a stationary NPC, and allow people to form parties and do Behest at their leisure. Compensating of course by adding a timer (10 mins?) so that you can't spam Behest. This could alleviate the half hour reset/spawn currently in place, and put another emphasis on community building through Behest party making. But, I also think they should up the exp awarded through Behest, and make it more challenging.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

So you're saying that every camp that has behests are ALWAYS packed and you can't ever participate?

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Nope never did I say all the camps that have behest are packed just the ones that actualy have people go to them even after the "fix" people stayed in the Ul'dah area.. making them packed esp for new players.

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Originally Posted by Belial

I think a smart idea on SE's behalf would be to make the battle wardens a stationary NPC, and allow people to form parties and do Behest at their leisure. Compensating of course by adding a timer (10 mins?) so that you can't spam Behest. This could alleviate the half hour reset/spawn currently in place, and put another emphasis on community building through Behest party making. But, I also think they should up the exp awarded through Behest, and make it more challenging.

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I agree this sounds like a good fix

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Originally Posted by Coombah

and add a "miniboss" to spice it up and have it drop something worth holding onto.

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Definitely! After grinding behest for the last week through 5 classes, more than 60 levels and some 70+hrs, seeing the very weak 2x lightning elementals or the Nannygoats or even the coblyns, its really bland. The final mob{s} should be something unique w/ a name or maybe an NM on occasion. {course if one ends up being solo, then the final mob shouldn't be something too tough to handle...maybe like it already is}

For example, the final mob in Skull Valley's Behest is always a Kobold Supplicant. Its a unique mob that you don't see at low levels.

I like the idea of the reward you mentioned. When I think of Behest I think of FF9... so maybe when we start the Behest we can choose 1 item out of 4 and if you complete the Behest without dying then you get your bonus item too but if you die you during the Behest then you can only obtain the gil reward... it wouldn't have to work exactly like that but it's just an idea?

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Nope never did I say all the camps that have behest are packed just the ones that actualy have people go to them even after the "fix" people stayed in the Ul'dah area.. making them packed esp for new players.

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So...... the simple solution would be to go to a different camp.

I think if an item reward would be implemented, it should only be from a random spawned NM for the final battle ~ sometimes an NM spawns, sometimes its just a unique mob. And of course make them have a huge list of various items and drop %'s, so you won't always get what you want, just like when killing NMs...

Or another idea, when this NM should spawn and its defeated, everyone in the PT gets a token for that camp, {Camp Horizon Token} that can only be used at that camp. Then add a new token vendor in each camp that sells various pieces of gear to a set and other random goodies, and you'll have to participate in behest from multiple camps and NM battles, collecting tokens {as each item will have a token cost} to earn/purchase every piece. In the end, it'll make more players participate in behest all over the game instead of in select locations as it is now.

In my opinion, behest should work like an instanced event that fires off as soon as enough people join the party. Eleven people standing around the warden? They all join up, but the first 8 end up in a party and their behest fires off, the other 3 end up in a group of their own waiting for the next 5 members so they can get started.

This works very effectively in other games so why not here? It sure is better than disappointing people who now have to wait another 30 minutes for a chance to play because they didn't get into behest again.

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Originally Posted by Wynn

In my opinion, behest should work like an instanced event that fires off as soon as enough people join the party. Eleven people standing around the warden? They all join up, but the first 8 end up in a party and their behest fires off, the other 3 end up in a group of their own waiting for the next 5 members so they can get started.

This works very effectively in other games so why not here? It sure is better than disappointing people who now have to wait another 30 minutes for a chance to play because they didn't get into behest again.

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You're right. Perhaps they should work more like Rift battles in...that one game....what was it called again?

But those were a ripoff of Public Quests in Warhammer Online.

That's the idea, though. Much better than having to depend on someone forming a party after everyone gets their tags.

Make the captains do something instead of following you around like a retard... at least have him break dance and entertain us while we fight or something..