Odin Battle

Please make an instanced 8-man Odin battle. Watching the CS again and seeing Odin there reminded me of how much I was looking forward to fighting Odin. But in its current form it's not fun and imo a waste of a potential boss.

Add an 8-man instanced Odin fight please.

Also maybe even extreme boss fights with Siren, Diabolos, etc.

as for those Siren/Diabolos, they can just use wandering minstrel again, right? I think Gilgamesh will get that treatment lol.

I would love instanced Odin fight too lol. Most of the time zone is locked for me and I couldn't participate :(

Greg won't be getting any Minstrel treatment. If you've seen the cutscene after the fight you'll know why. "I'll be back."

That said, it would be nice if they did more with the Minstrel in the future. Some bosses could just be so much more than they are now.

I still have never seen behemoth. Which is just another proof that rare spawn content sucks and everything should be possible to do at your own pace and times.

+1 to Minstrel battles with these bosses (Siren, Diablos, Odin etc.)

I've only fought Odin once, and it was such a clusterfuck that I didn't enjoy it in the slightest.

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Originally Posted by Malamasala

I still have never seen behemoth. Which is just another proof that rare spawn content sucks and everything should be possible to do at your own pace and times.

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Neither have I, and I really want to...

24 man instance these encounters.

They should really do something like that just like they did with Ultima. In 2.1 they added Ultima hm, now they should make Diabolos/Siren/Odin hm. Give them real fights :D

I've been online once when he spawned. I was in a roulette at the time. One day I'll get to see him, one day.

bump, might have posted this at an odd hour.

I miss the buzz of Odin spawning. When he spawned it was a whole server effort getting him down before he K.O'd us all. Nowadays, people couldn't care less... so it would be nice to face him in a more controlled environment, an 8-man fight would be awesome.

agreed, I would love to see some more Hard Mode fights of some of the big baddies.

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Originally Posted by Shenandoah

as for those Siren/Diabolos, they can just use wandering minstrel again, right? I think Gilgamesh will get that treatment lol.

I would love instanced Odin fight too lol. Most of the time zone is locked for me and I couldn't participate :(

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That is a good point.

So take away the only huge server wide battle we have? No thanks I'll have to pass. I want more open world content not take fights away from it....

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Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine

agreed, I would love to see some more Hard Mode fights of some of the big baddies.

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The way the network code operates and the 2.5 sec global hinder how 'hard' you can make fights.

I've seen him once. He was tiny and very difficult to see under the massive amount of spell effects.

Being there from start to finish in a full party as an i84 War he died ridiculously fast and we all got bronze. I never took any damage, even not knowing how his abilities worked and he died in a little over 1 minute. We put out enough effort to get gold several times over in any normal boss fate.

He has become weak and very underwhelming for such a difficult to encounter boss. I have no desire to keep struggling to even get credit in his current implementation. An updated and fun fight does sound very good. Odin isn't supposed to be as easy as a level 15 boss fate for less reward.

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Originally Posted by Legionius

I've seen him once. He was tiny and very difficult to see under the massive amount of spell effects.

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Turn other players' spell effects to off or limited in the options.

I'd enjoy the Odin fight if it weren't laggy as fuck. I thought it might be a PS4 thing, but my FC members on PC said the same thing was happening to them. :\ I'd not be against it become a 24 man instance.

Edit: Thought I might add that this only happens with Odin. Behemoth, in my experiences, had more people in attendance and was fine. Same for Svara, etc. I've seen far more people at each fight and never had any sort of problems

Legionius is right, with the gear advancing well past what the original intentions were for Odin he has become trivial at best.

You sit in a lag fest of spell effects and for the most part have so many people attackign him all his mechanics are moot points. I was in a group a while back I was barely seeign anythgin but spell effects and his health dropped about 1% a second, or FASTER!

So he died fairly quickly and people basically left like "No big deal."

I'd actually like to see MORE world bosses like Odin and Behemoth. I just think SE needs to follow GW2's example and make such bosses on a slightly more frequent basis (say, roughly once every 3 hours or so) so that more people can participate in them depending on their schedules. Then, if certain rare items drop (such as the Odin Mantles or Behemoth Horns), you could only get one drop from that boss per day so that people couldn't farm it excessively.

Aside from that and the lag that people encounter (although it has gotten significantly better since launch), I feel that world bosses need to have more fight mechanics involved or utilize the environment in some way so it doesn't feel like everyone's zerging a big HP bar. Odin does a pretty good job of this; he has a bunch of large AOE's that inflict some nasty status effects. I think the huge desert area in Southern Thanalan would be a perfect place for a world boss, perhaps a massive sandworm that burrows in and out of the sand all over the zone and can jump out and devour people. People would have to climb on its back somehow (maybe jump off one of the tall sand dunes) and break its scales off before it could be damaged, something like that.

I would be okay with an instanced Odin battle, but at the same time, I feel that there is enough instanced content in the game already. I think SE needs to work more on making the actual world of Eorzea more lively and introduce FATE's that are more engaging for the player, where the outcomes actually have some sort of impact on the environment.

Something like a burning circle fight that required a pop item or seals for something like KSNM?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AYVRkIarJQ

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Originally Posted by Woggers

So take away the only huge server wide battle we have? No thanks I'll have to pass. I want more open world content not take fights away from it....

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They should involve the FATE with a proper Primal battle with Odin, similar thing for Behemoth; FATE gets beaten on your server, for the next X hours an instance opens up which requires 8 people to enter where you challenge them proper.

Odin FATE also needs to have no level cap. I think he stopped leveling around 60? Either way, with i100 he became pretty pathetic and the idea of "he gets stronger every time you beat him" vanished a long time ago. Behemoth is sad as well, but they never sold him as something that would become stronger over time, so whatever.

I kinda have to laugh at all the people who are saying Odin is so trivial by this point. Maybe there's very strong differences in player bases for my server and others, but his fight still isn't any small matter from what I can see. On PS3 and Shiva, I HAVE to have all effects turned off, or my PS3 would likely never show anything to begin with. Couple that with everyone converging towards him at once, and you've got a strong delay and lag off the bat. Then, you have the matter that you likely won't see most of his attacks or know what half of them do.



Hall of Stone and Hall of Lead are two of his attacks that are easy to understand. One can petrify and give you vulnerability up for about 14 seconds I think, one gives a very strong 30 second Slow. After that, you have Darksteel Reins, Einherjar, the Gungnir spears, and his normal attacks and cleaves plus others, because I still can't find info online for any of his attacks. I got hit for 25,000 on my BLM a few weeks ago, strongest amount of damage I've ever seen, that beats most LB3s by a Landslide(pun intended). He WILL kill you, most tanks can barely hold him for 15 seconds, and that's sometimes not counting when your healers can actually see you. Then he hits hard and drops everyone like flies most of the time because of delays and too many people. I always see mounds of bodies after each time he appears on Shiva, healers have a lot of work to do. Even if you're in full High Allagan, he can still kill you fairly easily since his normal attacks give Physical Vulnerability. Longest I've survived was 3 stacks with a 91 WAR, happens in a flash most often as well. If he has your targeted regardless of what class you are, he's going to cut off your head and **** down your neck.

Yeah, maybe "everyone get in groups of 8, use LB on his last 5% or so, and avoid AoEs" makes it slightly more simple, but people wouldn't be able to still so easily die to him if he was really easy. Show me one server that has not one person die during a FATE of him, I welcome seeing that. At this point even with item level 110 and such gear, it's not like it's physically building your character to have strength or abilities on tier of an actual monster for instance at that level, it's just a random number to denote a tier of gear. You can hit harder and have more HP, but he can still cleave your ass in half for a couple thousand willy-nilly.