What should my role be in dungeons and quests...?

level 36 marauder,been playing for about a month. Recently I started playing dungeons and gave the story line a rest. Most dungeons were about 10 levels below me so I never had a problem tanking. Well a new one opened at 35 and I knew it'd be a lot more challenging. I said to the group before starting, I'm new, this dungeon is new to me as well. As I'm going one makes a comment about me being squishy, I said what do u mean? I upgrade all my armor and weapons as I go. He starts saying how I shouldn't be taking as much damage as I am, and how I should be focusing on other skills (which doesn't make sense to me, if I'm a tank should I not be taking damage that the healer should be healing?). I left the group because I was tired of that one person saying anything, but I stopped going to that dungeon, which would give me lots of exp, and went back down to the lower ones where no one says a thing.. was the guy just a douche? Or should I be branching off now ?

He may have been saying to get cross-class abilities from gladiator to go with marauder. Also, you should unlock Warrior ASAP. It's an upgrade to marauder (literally, you're still a marauder for many purposes, but get some new abilities). The first ability in particular, Defiance, should always be upup when tanking.

Have you leveled GLA to 15 to unlock WAR? MRD by itself is weaker at tanking since it lacks the Defiance ability WAR has when you unlock it. It's also possible the guy is too used to level synced tanks who naturally take less damage.

It sounds like you haven't unlocked Warrior. You need a gladiator at level 15 min. Though really you should just go to 22 min to get Provoke as well. Once you hit GLA 15 return to the Marauders guild and the guy who gave you your class quests will direct you to a new mentor in Costa del Sol who you will give you new class quests every five levels. The first of which will give you the warrior soul stone.

Paladins will joke that warriors are squishy in general since paladins have more constant damage mitigation due to having a shield (and Shield Oath). Outside of that, you should level gladiator to 15 and start on marauder. The soul crystal alone will give you like +20 vitality. And later on it will be impossible to hold aggro without the warrior skills.
The level 35 warrior skill also gives you a short term damage reduction buff. It only lasts for 6 seconds but you can reuse it like every 15 seconds.

As a marauder/warrior you will be taking more damage than healers who are used to working with gladiators/paladins may expect. You will also have a LOT more hit points.
Gladiators/paladins are good for constant damage mitigation. Marauders/warriors are good for dealing with short damage spikes.

Btw - you can certainly do Titan as a marauder (not warrior). I even saw a marauder in Cape Westwind (level 49 trial) .. but they weren't doing so well.

If you were doing sunken temple of qarn as a Marauder, the problem was likely that you weren't a Warrior yet as people have been saying. I had a FC member that I was helping XP and they read a months-old guide that was intended for FATE grinding and he kept telling me that Warrior was useless until X level, but lo and behold in Qarn he can't take much damage, hold hate, and he drops really quickly. I told him to exit and try it again as Warrior and it was like night and day.

Not only will just changing to Warrior give you more HP, the Defiance ability it starts with gives you 25% more on top of that and boosts your enmity gain.

To put it in another way. Marauder and all the other base classes are designed to have lots of cross class abilities for more solo utility. It allows you to self heal, get more defence buffs and even go dps woth some attack buffs. Its really meant for solo. Jobs, like Warrior are more focused on their role in party play, you get more abilites that help you take hits and survive for your role as the tank even some abilities that let you buff and heal on the same go. Just by equipping a soul crystal that turns your class into a job,you gain a significant stat boost and opens up job only gear that also has bigger stat boosts for your role, and less spread out stats.

If you were doing Qarn as a Marauder, then my good sir I applaud you.
I remember my first time there as a Warrior.
The mobs hit hard, even with Defiance up. Still, I really love that ability.

As others have said, unlock Warrior and get Provoke from Gladiator.
As far as the person in your party goes- he may be used to lvl synched tanks that have ilvl90+ gear but that shouldn't be an excuse.
He really shouldn't have been rude. Instead of criticizing you, he should have offered helpful advice.
Sadly, you may run into players like him later- or worse- so do your best to ignore them.
If they get really bad, report them for harassment.
Not starting an argument and leaving was quite possibly the best way to handle things.

Great advice everyone! Ok this is gonna be a dumb question, but how do I unlock warrior? And once I do I'll be level 1? So then I have to buy all new gear or just new weapons? Thanks a lot everyone!

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Originally Posted by Diablo-Cyrus

Great advice everyone! Ok this is gonna be a dumb question, but how do I unlock warrior? And once I do I'll be level 1? So then I have to buy all new gear or just new weapons? Thanks a lot everyone!

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Level Gladiator to level 15 and do your class quests at the Marauder guild. Eventually they'll send you to another NPC in Eastern La Noscea to unlock the WAR job. Jobs are just a specialization of your class so they remain the same level as your class, and for the most part your gear will carry over. (this only really changes in the later levels when you get job specific gear)

Or rather how do I unlock gladiator to get warrior?

When you become a warrior, you are still a marauder for pretty much every purpose. It's an upgrade to your existing class, not a new class.

To unlock gladiator, go to the gladiator guild in Ul'dah and talk to an NPC there. It will be a new class, so it will need new weapons (although it used the same gear, if you kept your lower level stuff.)

Unlock Gladiator by taking the quest from the Receptionist at the Gladiator's Guild in Ul'dah. That will provide you with a level 1 GLD sword and the right to equip it. When you equip a sword, you'll be a level 1 GLD. (Just switch back to your Axe when you want to return to being a level 36 MRD. Your current class is determined by the weapon you're holding, and your level is class-specific.)

As GLD, level up to at least 15. (Eventually, you'll want to take that further, up to 22, but for unlocking WAR, the requirement is 15.) Once you meet the GLD level 15 or higher requirement, switch back to MRD and go to the MRD guild to pick up your Warrior quest.

Leveling GLD to 15 should be fairly quick. You'll get another set of hunting logs specific to the new class, and if you didn't do the low-level quests in Ul'dah and Thanalan, those can level you quickly. You'll also have GLD class quests each 5 levels just like with MRD. And, since you have another class of higher level, you'll get the Armory Bonus of 50% extra XP while leveling GLD.

Awesome you guys!

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Originally Posted by Diablo-Cyrus

Great advice everyone! Ok this is gonna be a dumb question, but how do I unlock warrior? And once I do I'll be level 1? So then I have to buy all new gear or just new weapons? Thanks a lot everyone!

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As a Warrior, you'll be the same level as you are as a Marauder. You'll also still have all your MRD skills and traits, and be able to equip anything a MRD can. That's because a WAR is really just a specialist type of MRD, and all XP earned as either one advances your MRD level.

If you mean as a Gladiator, however, then yes, when you unlock GLD, you'll be level 1 and will need level 1 equipment. The quest unlocking the GLD class will also provide your first level 1 sword, but you'll need armor that can be worn at level 1. (If you no longer have your starting equipment, there's a vendor in each of the three starting cities that sells copies of those race-specific starter items. In Ul'dah he's near the Delivery Moogle and that trio of dancing Mi'quote girls.)

Awesome, I played for about 45 minutes so far and I'm sitting on level 8 gladiator. So my plan is to go to 15 and go warrior it up! You guys helped a whole lot. Oh I meant to say, I haven't seen a whole lot of quests for gladiator, just one from the guild leader is all, I'm having to fight monsters to get exp, taking longer.

Yeah, you can only do any individual sidequest once (Barring some high level daily/weekly quests). So, if you did all the quests you can, you'll only be able to do the class specific quests from your guild. That said, you do have several options!

1: Hunting log: Get bonus xp for killing mobs! Finish the whole thing for an achievement and a snazzy ring to start you out on endgame!
2: Levequests: Starting from... forget if it's level 1 or 5. You get 6 allotments a day, and each camp has a different selection. Travel the three nations and do them all for achievements :D
3: Guildhests: Starting at level 10, you can use these for faster xp than just killing random mobs. You also get a hefty xp and gil bonus the first time you do it on any given class.
4: Challenge Log: You unlock these at level 15, but you can unlock it on your marauder (quest is in Limsa Lominsa). Just make sure you're on gladiator when you finish challenges for a hefty bunch of xp!
5: FATE. If you see a FATE up while running around, go do it. Free xp and seals!
6: Chocobro: Not actually a source of xp, but there's a quest in the South Shroud you can do at level 30 to allow your chocobo to fight alongside you. He can help kill things faster and allow you to take on challenges you couldn't normally, so feel free to have him out anytime you're doing open-world content (You can't use him in instances like dungeons and such) to help earn him xp. Also, if you focus on one path when levelling him, you will get a unique barding!
7: Dungeons: Won't help you get to 15, but for 15+ dungeons are a great source of xp.

I'm just gonna recommend getting Gladiator to 22 if you don't get tired of it. Provoke is required for some endgame stuff and is just useful in general.

Wow, thanks for the tips guys, ya I stumbled on the levee quests and it's helping it go up a lot faster. Ya if u recommend going to 22, I'll do that, wanna be as well rounded as I can be. So 7 more levels isn't too much more. Thanks.

Thanks everyone... Just unlocked warrior because of you guys and got some nice add on abilities.