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    Diablo-Cyrus's Avatar
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    Diablo Cyrus
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    Marauder Lv 50

    What should my role be in dungeons and quests...?

    level 36 marauder,been playing for about a month. Recently I started playing dungeons and gave the story line a rest. Most dungeons were about 10 levels below me so I never had a problem tanking. Well a new one opened at 35 and I knew it'd be a lot more challenging. I said to the group before starting, I'm new, this dungeon is new to me as well. As I'm going one makes a comment about me being squishy, I said what do u mean? I upgrade all my armor and weapons as I go. He starts saying how I shouldn't be taking as much damage as I am, and how I should be focusing on other skills (which doesn't make sense to me, if I'm a tank should I not be taking damage that the healer should be healing?). I left the group because I was tired of that one person saying anything, but I stopped going to that dungeon, which would give me lots of exp, and went back down to the lower ones where no one says a thing.. was the guy just a douche? Or should I be branching off now ?
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    He may have been saying to get cross-class abilities from gladiator to go with marauder. Also, you should unlock Warrior ASAP. It's an upgrade to marauder (literally, you're still a marauder for many purposes, but get some new abilities). The first ability in particular, Defiance, should always be upup when tanking.
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Have you leveled GLA to 15 to unlock WAR? MRD by itself is weaker at tanking since it lacks the Defiance ability WAR has when you unlock it. It's also possible the guy is too used to level synced tanks who naturally take less damage.
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    Sil Ellessa
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 50
    It sounds like you haven't unlocked Warrior. You need a gladiator at level 15 min. Though really you should just go to 22 min to get Provoke as well. Once you hit GLA 15 return to the Marauders guild and the guy who gave you your class quests will direct you to a new mentor in Costa del Sol who you will give you new class quests every five levels. The first of which will give you the warrior soul stone.
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    Sagittarian's Avatar
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    Nesshin'na Kasai
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Paladins will joke that warriors are squishy in general since paladins have more constant damage mitigation due to having a shield (and Shield Oath). Outside of that, you should level gladiator to 15 and start on marauder. The soul crystal alone will give you like +20 vitality. And later on it will be impossible to hold aggro without the warrior skills.
    The level 35 warrior skill also gives you a short term damage reduction buff. It only lasts for 6 seconds but you can reuse it like every 15 seconds.

    As a marauder/warrior you will be taking more damage than healers who are used to working with gladiators/paladins may expect. You will also have a LOT more hit points.
    Gladiators/paladins are good for constant damage mitigation. Marauders/warriors are good for dealing with short damage spikes.

    Btw - you can certainly do Titan as a marauder (not warrior). I even saw a marauder in Cape Westwind (level 49 trial) .. but they weren't doing so well.
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    Estellios's Avatar
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    Hyperion
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    Monk Lv 77
    If you were doing sunken temple of qarn as a Marauder, the problem was likely that you weren't a Warrior yet as people have been saying. I had a FC member that I was helping XP and they read a months-old guide that was intended for FATE grinding and he kept telling me that Warrior was useless until X level, but lo and behold in Qarn he can't take much damage, hold hate, and he drops really quickly. I told him to exit and try it again as Warrior and it was like night and day.

    Not only will just changing to Warrior give you more HP, the Defiance ability it starts with gives you 25% more on top of that and boosts your enmity gain.
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    ErnestoGiovanni's Avatar
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    Ceropio Malvae
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    Mateus
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    Conjurer Lv 59
    To put it in another way. Marauder and all the other base classes are designed to have lots of cross class abilities for more solo utility. It allows you to self heal, get more defence buffs and even go dps woth some attack buffs. Its really meant for solo. Jobs, like Warrior are more focused on their role in party play, you get more abilites that help you take hits and survive for your role as the tank even some abilities that let you buff and heal on the same go. Just by equipping a soul crystal that turns your class into a job,you gain a significant stat boost and opens up job only gear that also has bigger stat boosts for your role, and less spread out stats.
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    Bisera Cecilina
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    Adamantoise
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    Armorer Lv 76
    If you were doing Qarn as a Marauder, then my good sir I applaud you.
    I remember my first time there as a Warrior.
    The mobs hit hard, even with Defiance up. Still, I really love that ability.

    As others have said, unlock Warrior and get Provoke from Gladiator.
    As far as the person in your party goes- he may be used to lvl synched tanks that have ilvl90+ gear but that shouldn't be an excuse.
    He really shouldn't have been rude. Instead of criticizing you, he should have offered helpful advice.
    Sadly, you may run into players like him later- or worse- so do your best to ignore them.
    If they get really bad, report them for harassment.
    Not starting an argument and leaving was quite possibly the best way to handle things.
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    Diablo Cyrus
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Great advice everyone! Ok this is gonna be a dumb question, but how do I unlock warrior? And once I do I'll be level 1? So then I have to buy all new gear or just new weapons? Thanks a lot everyone!
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diablo-Cyrus View Post
    Great advice everyone! Ok this is gonna be a dumb question, but how do I unlock warrior? And once I do I'll be level 1? So then I have to buy all new gear or just new weapons? Thanks a lot everyone!
    Level Gladiator to level 15 and do your class quests at the Marauder guild. Eventually they'll send you to another NPC in Eastern La Noscea to unlock the WAR job. Jobs are just a specialization of your class so they remain the same level as your class, and for the most part your gear will carry over. (this only really changes in the later levels when you get job specific gear)
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