Ok swimming... but what about Climbing?

I know this is beaten to death. We've heard their plans/thoughts on swimming, but what about climb?

Out of all the main ones: Jump, Climb, Fly & Swim, i've always felt that Climb deserved priority. The last thing we want is cut-scenes of us climbing ladders (FF11 players, you know what i mean) -.-

Community Team & Dev, what are the plans for a Climb feature?





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Yoshida pretty much already said that he wanted to see about introducing climbing along with that swimming post.

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Originally Posted by Malakhim

Yoshida pretty much already said that he wanted to see about introducing climbing along with that swimming post.

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It's not in this recent post, maybe i just forgot about it. So many dev posts these days it's starting to be hard to keep up with all of them.

I do know there was some kind of response about these issues before. Pretty sure it was a vague answer like usual.

Needs more flying like Aion Imo.

Yep,. flying.

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Originally Posted by Tezz_Xivectro

It's not in this recent post, maybe i just forgot about it. So many dev posts these days it's starting to be hard to keep up with all of them.

I do know there was some kind of response about these issues before. Pretty sure it was a vague answer like usual.

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Hi, this is Yoshida, the producer/director.

Thank you for the discussion!
I’m sorry about any confusion that was caused due to my lack of input.

Regarding implementing the ability to move freely on the same level as an Assassin's Creed title, we have no plans of actually implementing this from a game design and cost standpoint. However, it would be possible to implement movements similar to other MMOs. For example, in other games it is possible to reach high places by jumping up against the terrain...

We would like to try to implement swimming by adding underwater areas in expansion packs, although this will require adding an incredible number of swimming animations to be created. Features built around the water in EverQuest were very fresh at the time. (Although I drowned so many times… I raised my skills safely at the fountain… Before that, I died so many times by starting as Wood Elf.) I think that underwater temple raids would be fun, so I would like to implement this concept along with the ability to swim.

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Bolded the important part from the translation of Yoshi-P's post this tells me he want climbing implemented, by no means official that it will be implemented but it could be.

Personally I feel that climbing is much more conducive to adventuring than jumping.

Give me a rope, some fasteners and other such climbing gear and I'll be all up ins the mountains of Dravania.

TOMB RAIDER ONLINE PLEASE!

The real raid content.

(Oh, and look they own the rights so there's no copy right infringement).

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Originally Posted by Malakhim

Yoshida pretty much already said that he wanted to see about introducing climbing along with that swimming post.

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Truth be told, after Yoshida made that post a couple of players voiced opposition to the idea of being able climb up walls, etc. So an hour later (but only about 3 posts down in the same thread) he said he was torn about how far he could take the idea. He asked the players in the thread to voice there opinion regarding what they'd like to see. As such, I think this thread is very appropriate.

Personally, I would love to see an Eorzea where there are mountains that can be climbed leading to spectacular views. Naturally, I wouldn't expect to be able to climb anything and everything, but I'd love a more dynamic world where secret locations lay in wait for those who scaled dangerous cliffs.

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Originally Posted by Rane

Truth be told, after Yoshida made that post a couple of players voiced opposition to the idea of being able climb up walls, etc. So an hour later (but only about 3 posts down in the same thread) he said he was torn about how far he could take the idea. He asked the players in the thread to voice there opinion regarding what they'd like to see. As such, I think this thread is very appropriate.

Personally, I would love to see an Eorzea where there are mountains that can be climbed leading to spectacular views. Naturally, I wouldn't expect to be able to climb anything and everything, but I'd love a more dynamic world where secret locations lay in wait for those who scaled dangerous cliffs.

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I think the low res textures in the distance pretty much ruin the types of views your talking about. Idk how they did the backgrounds in FFXIII, but why can't we have backgrounds like that?

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Originally Posted by Alzelia

I think the low res textures in the distance pretty much ruin the types of views your talking about. Idk how they did the backgrounds in FFXIII, but why can't we have backgrounds like that?

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Yeah, and I don't want to derail this thread about climbing, but the low-res texture issue is really annoying. Even when you turn up ALL the settings and background drawing detail, it's still an issue (and not many people can turn up setting to max anyways).

It shouldn't be such a sharp change between high and low res textures. If it was a gradual change, nobody would think anything of it.

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Originally Posted by Alzelia

I think the low res textures in the distance pretty much ruin the types of views your talking about. Idk how they did the backgrounds in FFXIII, but why can't we have backgrounds like that?

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Originally Posted by giftforce

Yeah, and I don't want to derail this thread about climbing, but the low-res texture issue is really annoying. Even when you turn up ALL the settings and background drawing detail, it's still an issue (and not many people can turn up setting to max anyways).

It shouldn't be such a sharp change between high and low res textures. If it was a gradual change, nobody would think anything of it.

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Fair enough. I'd have to agree with that. The weird transition is especially noticeable when walking around Limsa Lominsa. I hope they can fix it.

In any event, I'd still like climbing to be a part of the game. :)

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Fair enough. I'd have to agree with that. The weird transition is especially noticeable when walking around Limsa Lominsa. I hope they can fix it.

In any event, I'd still like climbing to be a part of the game. :)

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I'd still like climbing too. Don't get me wrong.

Some kind of platforming would be cool, and fairly unique for this type of game. However, something like climbing ladders would break flow i think (I'm thinking of both FFXI and Vindictus here), everything sloooows down when you were excitedly making your way through the area before. It would be awesome to have some scenic points you get to with skillful platforming though.

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Originally Posted by OJtheLIONKing

Some kind of platforming would be cool, and fairly unique for this type of game. However, something like climbing ladders would break flow i think (I'm thinking of both FFXI and Vindictus here), everything sloooows down when you were excitedly making your way through the area before. It would be awesome to have some scenic points you get to with skillful platforming though.

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As well as scenic points, skillful platforming can be useful for treasure-hunting if SE decide to re-implement this feature from FFXI.

What are you going to do with FFXIV... -.-

Honestly if it's climbing, i'd take a context sensitive climbing action for sheer cliff surfaces. Jump option is nice too, but nothing like Attohwa Chasm style cliffs.

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Originally Posted by giftforce

TOMB RAIDER ONLINE PLEASE!

The real raid content.

(Oh, and look they own the rights so there's no copy right infringement).

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Actually this is excellent, because they could theoretically get the guys from Crystal Dynamics to help them out with the climbing aspects if they do in fact want to implement it.

Heh, Give an inch take a mile in action folks.