FC Housing? What's the point?

So I have a few questions about FC housing for those of you that own one.

What is the point to owning a FC house? Does this do anything for the individual player or the individual FC as a whole besides bragging rights? Like, are there any benefits of any kind for anybody?

If my FC were to get a house, what size is honestly the best option. Cause right now, they're saving up for large, but I personally feel that, that is a complete waste of time and gil.

So again I just wanna know, is saving for a FC large size house a complete waste of time and money? Or are there actually benefits (besides FC bragging rights) from it?

And by benefits, I want to know current benefits, not things schedule to be released. Thank you!

Owning a house is the only way to grow stuff in a garden, currently.

Whether that's useful or not, it's probably the biggest benefit that isn't a smug sense of superiority and the ability to hold down increasingly rare land plots.

It's pretty great to be able to go to the market, teleport for rested, repair, buy any crafting material all in one place.
And not have to deal with main city lag or running to the AH or going diff places to buy vendor crafted items, ect.

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Originally Posted by gornotck

the ability to hold down increasingly rare land plots.

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Really? Last time I've checked a few days ago on numerous servers there is still huge amount of unsold plots everywhere. Those FC who could afford it bougth them months ago, those who couldn't merged to some large ones to do so and that's about it. Do not expect some new large FCs suddenly to stem out and buy out all the plots out there. All fairly new and any curent small FC will struggle for years to save for at least medium (or preferably large) plots ... All those lies and empty promisses by Yoshi about "re-evaluating" the house prices are just showing how much SE does(n't) care about us :(

Don't know about Moogle server, but Balmung is pretty much bought out in Limsa and Gridania shy of a few large and small plots. Bal's not even the most populous server so I imagine it's crowded other places as well.

And don't bullshit about "lies and empty promises." Medium and Small houses are attainable at any FC scale now because there are actually gil fountains in place - an 8-man FC working together can afford a small house just from a few rounds of spiritbinding and selling the proceeds. And large houses are for large FCs, simple as that. And if you have to take out a loan? Smart gardening might get some money back if there's a market for apricot/kukuru seeds or glazenuts/jute on your server.

Anyway FC houses. The FC leader sets the permissions for moving/placing/deleting furniture, as well as who can seed/harvest gardens, so whether the individual player benefits from being able to decorate the house (or their space in the house) is up to the FC. Any member of the FC can utilize the vendor/mender NPCs which are quite useful. And while only people with permissions can seed/harvest, anyone can tend to the garden.

As for large vs. medium size houses, personally I hated the size of large houses. My FC owns a medium and I struggle against the 150-item limit despite things looking cozy - the large is twice as big but only 200 item limit. You do get 3 gardens from a large, though.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

I see...

So is the garden only something the "authorized players" can do set by the FC leader(s)? Or can everyone in the FC garden?

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I haven't checked my permissions, but as the god of my FC I can do whatever. As the sole remaining member of my FC, I can garden to my heart's content.
I think it defaults to everyone in the FC, though the FC Master can set permissions, just like everything else in an FC.

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Originally Posted by HEC

Really? [...] ... All those lies and empty promisses by Yoshi about "re-evaluating" the house prices are just showing how much SE does(n't) care about us :(

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I'm sensing some hostility toward the Great Betrayer, but I was mostly joking about the 'increasingly rare plots' bit, though it's true as there's not likely to be more added any time soon.

TBH right now a large house is not worth it. However housing will continue to be improved upon and if you buy a smaller house then better amenities get released for larger houses you will want to upgrade. By getting a large house now, you won't have to worry about saving up again. I'd go for whatever is truly attainable.

My favorite part of the house is that for a cheap tele you are steps away from everything you need. (MB, summoning bell, repairs, etc)

My FC has a lot of fun in our house. We only have a small one right now, but we have the garden going and I'm looking forward to the individual player housing being added. I do think that maybe the gardening aspect shouldn't have been implemented as a "guild" thing. It wasn't in XI, and I have heard of some guilds that have "discussions" over what to grow and who is handling the garden. So far we have escaped any such conflicts, but whenever you have an aspect of the game with the potential for large profits... you run the risk of big conflicts by adding more people to the mix.

So in closing, I really like the housing. It makes my FC feel like it's not just a linkshell to take on and off. We are a real presence in Balmung - a real permanent fixture.

There is no point.

In my exp there is one person in the fc who wants to use it as their own personal housing. They don't want to let anyone else move anything, do anything, change anything or touch the house in any way they don't want you to, yet they expect everyone to pay for and contribute to the house and use fc funds to pay for furniture immediately after an update when its at its most expensive.

FC housing means really nothing but bragging rights and a way to entice potential members. Total waste of time and money.

Our plot (30, Mist) is right next to a market board and is a stone's throw from the shore where there's a few vendors selling a few items that no other vendors sell. We have a beautiful Leviathan water feature in the garden (now with added glow), a delivery box that jingles a simplified version of the Moggle Mog chorus when you have a mail and ample foliage and pretty lights to make our yard attractive to onlookers and residents alike. The views from our plot are, in this humble homeowner's opinion, second to none in all of Mist. Our gardening patches are an excellent source of money for those with priveleges to plant and pick.

Inside our luxuriously decorated estate we have a summoning bell, two vendors, a mender and ample room to sit down, relax, talk, chill out or craft. We have a wide variety of plush, novelty and trophy furnishings to make our company home really feel like a hall of gathering for our members.

Despite all this, only 6/41 of my FC ever hang out at the house. Even with the above plus the drastically lower load times in Mist than a city people just don't care. Why? Because housing gives no tangible reward to anyone except those that can garden. Even then, that is temporary until the market is inevitably flooded by the few items that make money. I really like our house. I paid for 80% of the cost and decorated it myself. It pains me to say that because the majority of people in this game are so end game orientated they simply don't have time to appreciate what's good about housing. "It doesn't give me anything!", "What do I get from it?", "It's not my house anyway!" are just a handful of some of the phrases I've heard.

It depends on your attitude and goals in this game whether housing gives you anything.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

There is no point.

In my exp there is one person in the fc who wants to use it as their own personal housing. They don't want to let anyone else move anything, do anything, change anything or touch the house in any way they don't want you to, yet they expect everyone to pay for and contribute to the house and use fc funds to pay for furniture immediately after an update when its at its most expensive.

FC housing means really nothing but bragging rights and a way to entice potential members. Total waste of time and money.

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Sounds like you have a bad FC then.

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Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez

Sounds like you have a bad FC then.

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*Did* I am no longer a part of that fc, there were more than just this issue so I am a wondering smn seeking a home atm.

But I have heard other ppl complaining about the same thing in other fcs

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Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos

Our plot (30, Mist) is right next to a market board and is a stone's throw from the shore where there's a few vendors selling a few items that no other vendors sell. We have a beautiful Leviathan water feature in the garden (now with added glow), a delivery box that jingles a simplified version of the Moggle Mog chorus when you have a mail and ample foliage and pretty lights to make our yard attractive to onlookers and residents alike. The views from our plot are, in this humble homeowner's opinion, second to none in all of Mist. Our gardening patches are an excellent source of money for those with priveleges to plant and pick.

Inside our luxuriously decorated estate we have a summoning bell, two vendors, a mender and ample room to sit down, relax, talk, chill out or craft. We have a wide variety of plush, novelty and trophy furnishings to make our company home really feel like a hall of gathering for our members.

Despite all this, only 6/41 of my FC ever hang out at the house. Even with the above plus the drastically lower load times in Mist than a city people just don't care. Why? Because housing gives no tangible reward to anyone except those that can garden. Even then, that is temporary until the market is inevitably flooded by the few items that make money. I really like our house. I paid for 80% of the cost and decorated it myself. It pains me to say that because the majority of people in this game are so end game orientated they simply don't have time to appreciate what's good about housing. "It doesn't give me anything!", "What do I get from it?", "It's not my house anyway!" are just a handful of some of the phrases I've heard.

It depends on your attitude and goals in this game whether housing gives you anything.

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Plot 6 in Mist is simply the best. Direct access to the docks, thereby you have ownership of said dock. Time to start charging boat fees.

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Originally Posted by HEC

Really? Last time I've checked a few days ago on numerous servers there is still huge amount of unsold plots everywhere. Those FC who could afford it bougth them months ago, those who couldn't merged to some large ones to do so and that's about it. Do not expect some new large FCs suddenly to stem out and buy out all the plots out there. All fairly new and any curent small FC will struggle for years to save for at least medium (or preferably large) plots ... All those lies and empty promisses by Yoshi about "re-evaluating" the house prices are just showing how much SE does(n't) care about us :(

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My FC of 5 active players afforded a Medium. Albeit this is on Malboro, so it was only 13 million, but still, it's not "that" bad.

My only issue with FC housing has been that we as an FC did not get to choose as a whole where our plot or what we would be getting was going to be in the end. So the leaders (two of them not even all of them) choose a spot and a small house because they panic because at the time that was the last spot in the Mist. But that is more of an FC issue than a common one for most people. I get the idea behind having one, because we do have meetings occasionally and hang out with friends there. I personally love it because its a quiet place for me to craft, sell, and hang out with a few people. In the end I am more excited about personal housing and I hope the rumor about having a joint house with someone is true. But that is something I will have to wait on for a long while.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

In my exp there is one person in the fc who wants to use it as their own personal housing. They don't want to let anyone else move anything, do anything, change anything or touch the house in any way they don't want you to, yet they expect everyone to pay for and contribute to the house and use fc funds to pay for furniture immediately after an update when its at its most expensive.

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Sounds like you are in a pretty crappy FC. Mine isn't like that at all. In fact, I feel like the leaders are a spot TOO generous when it comes to sharing with members and offering themselves up. Between the two of them they have all crafts to 50 and all overmelds so they pretty much make bank. And they shower every new member with gear sets and help with their individual crafting. The other day the leader basically told me to keep the proceeds from the last batch in the garden, but I'm not comfortable with that so I put it in the bank anyway.


The system isn't *broken* per se, but I agree some people definitely are. Personal housing should have come before Company housing for this reason. There's not enough personal stuff in the game and far too much is centered on the *group* aspect. XI was like this in the beginning as well.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

There is no point.

In my exp there is one person in the fc who wants to use it as their own personal housing. They don't want to let anyone else move anything, do anything, change anything or touch the house in any way they don't want you to, yet they expect everyone to pay for and contribute to the house and use fc funds to pay for furniture immediately after an update when its at its most expensive.

FC housing means really nothing but bragging rights and a way to entice potential members. Total waste of time and money.

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Sounds like a horrible FC..

Housing is great. Personally, our FC had been saving for a long time, mainly due to just being a few key contributors. After several long time members left (some joining their static's FC, somepeople felt left out, etc) and a few other key members mentioning they might move on if we didn't get a house soon - we buckled down and raised 10 million in 2 weeks, and got a medium house. Everyone has become more involved with running as groups, we are always hanging out at the house doing silly things and such, it really turned our FC around in a positive direction.

That's one of the intangible benefits of FC housing, may or may not apply to everyone. That aside, it is super awesome having menders and vendors in the house, MB and summoning bell a few steps away. A nice, and (mostly) quite place to craft or do whatever you want. Just kind of your own little space.

Large houses are definitely cool, but medium is just fine. Don't get a small if you have more than 5-10 people.

On the Aegis server, All lots in all 3 zones are filled including each ward.. Only a 4 Mansion slots are free. but thats like after combing through every ward in all 3 zones.

Ain't no one got time for 11ty million gills for that! :(

i want a FC house :(

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Originally Posted by Kiokin

My FC of 5 active players afforded a Medium. Albeit this is on Malboro, so it was only 13 million, but still, it's not "that" bad.

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We with wife afforded duo on balmung 16m :P (sorry for off tipoic)
FC house is really just fine add-on for FC's , with house up ppl's no need run here & there for get rid of items , for summon retainer and other stuff (Even market board stands near our house)
As for house modelling , prmit's set by FC leaders .
needles to say if you new member most likely you will able to use only common things in house (as summon bell & mender etc) , all this goes from common sence and gil wasted sence (some furnitures cost mills and i doubdt FC leader or permitted leaders will want that someone destroy accidently this furniture) .
Verdict :
- FC Housing is personal housing for FC leaders (in cases if only leader or few leaders did all effort)
- FC housing is just fine add-on for FC members (since no need any movement outside house at all , all u need is already inside lol)

To a non fc player it doesn't seem that important based on these replies.
Especially when it comes to actual gameplay.

I see no point in the convenience of mb and vendors when you have that and so much more in each town.

Hot tub anyone?

I see a lot of people buy housing and when the novelty wears off like a week later they hardly ever visit again. We, however, are there all the time as crafters it's a great place to hang out and get things done now that we have our own mender, summoning bell and marketboard outside. I love our house!

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Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos

Our plot (30, Mist) is right next to a market board and is a stone's throw from the shore where there's a few vendors selling a few items that no other vendors sell. We have a beautiful Leviathan water feature in the garden (now with added glow), a delivery box that jingles a simplified version of the Moggle Mog chorus when you have a mail and ample foliage and pretty lights to make our yard attractive to onlookers and residents alike. The views from our plot are, in this humble homeowner's opinion, second to none in all of Mist. Our gardening patches are an excellent source of money for those with priveleges to plant and pick.

Inside our luxuriously decorated estate we have a summoning bell, two vendors, a mender and ample room to sit down, relax, talk, chill out or craft. We have a wide variety of plush, novelty and trophy furnishings to make our company home really feel like a hall of gathering for our members.
Despite all this, only 6/41 of my FC ever hang out at the house. Even with the above plus the drastically lower load times in Mist than a city people just don't care. Why? Because housing gives no tangible reward to anyone except those that can garden. Even then, that is temporary until the market is inevitably flooded by the few items that make money. I really like our house. I paid for 80% of the cost and decorated it myself. It pains me to say that because the majority of people in this game are so end game orientated they simply don't have time to appreciate what's good about housing. "It doesn't give me anything!", "What do I get from it?", "It's not my house anyway!" are just a handful of some of the phrases I've heard.

It depends on your attitude and goals in this game whether housing gives you anything.

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^ Basically.

I have a private company with 5 other real life friends and a couple others met on XIV. At the time of buying the house, me and 3 of my real life friends were the only ones around and we bought a nice little small plot on the 29th (i think) plot of the 4th ward of Lavender Beds. We've made it our own. And we all use it. We made a little bar downstairs and the upstairs looks like a Maelstrom office. We have a little garden outside and plan to raise chocobos when that becomes available too. We have a firepit as well.


I don't think it's about "what do I get out of it" It's more of a place where you can go and enjoy your time with your friends instead of sitting in town with 100s of other people around you making noise. It's a lot of fun to have a little house with a couple of your friends. It's fun to enjoy the game. Not constantly run end game. Besides, it's the place we hang out when we have to do a bunch of myth or soldiery runs. It's where we meet. Hang out. Sure it doesn't have a whole lot of features now, but just because it doesn't have something for you RIGHT NOW doesn't mean it won't be increasingly valuable in the future. What's wrong with giving your character a home to go to?

Plus, we were the first ones in the 4th ward, so it was completely empty and quiet. It was fun to watch people slowly move in.

Housing is meant to be like a glamour system, or basic character customization. It isn't something players need, its something that players want. If you don't want to contribute to an FC house, tell your guild.

It's meant to simply be another way for a player to express themselves in-game, which makes housing a piece of content that can't become "outdated" and something that the devs never need to redevelop.

If you continue playing this game, I guarantee you, after raids come and go, gear sets collect dust in your wardrobe, after friends come and go, you will appreciate things that don't have to change, and that you can hold onto them as 'yours.'

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Originally Posted by Seif

To a non fc player it doesn't seem that important based on these replies.
Especially when it comes to actual gameplay.

I see no point in the convenience of mb and vendors when you have that and so much more in each town.

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The FC vendors sell a lot more items than can be found on the vendors in town.

If you craft at all, the npc materials vendor is great. They pretty much sell every mat available at every city. So no more "where was this sold at? Oh, now I need to port there...."

No, not everyone in my FC makes much use of the house, but some do and it's fun to hang out there. :)

I guess too, we don't know what features will be added to FC houses in the future. So, getting a house now before they are all gone and you CAN'T take advantage of these makes sense to me. Yes, I'm sure SE will add more wards at some point, but which will come first? More features or the wards? :/

Maybe my FC is rare but, we started with a small cottage and just recently moved up to a full Mansion. Both have always been our place to gather and hang out. Our home. We have a MB a few feet away, two summoning bells (one in house, one by mb), merchants, mailbox, mender and a aetheryte. I only go into the cities to go to GC, use the armoire or get my hair done.

There are always a few FC members near the house at any given time. We share gardening duties (tending, fertilizing, planting, gathering) and soon will add the crafting stations. This will give even more of our fc members a reason to hang at the house.

To be honest the house has given our FC a real sense of community and a stronger bond as a Free company. at least in my opinion. We arent all spread out over Eorzea and we help each other with crafting, materials, gathering, trials, dungeons, fates, etc daily.

Do we need a mansion? Probably not but it sure is pretty :)

I feel like this game and DC Universe Online got it completely backwards when it comes to housing. Here you have FC (guild) housing and not personal housing. In DCUO you got personal bases (housing) and not league (guild) bases.

For DCUO I could care less about having my own base but it would have been really cool for our league to have it's own base like the Avengers HQ, Watch Tower, X Mansion, Asteroid M, ect.

For this game, while the FC housing is kinda cool I would much rather have my own cottage that I could decorate with my own souvenirs and trophies that I collected throughout my adventuring career