Hi I wondering if SE could add more transgender clothing?

Hi! I am a transgender myself and I love to wear exotic clothing, also womens Lingerie sometimes irl. I was just wondering if SE is going to add any underwears or chest armors that will create a more fashionable game play? I found one outfit that looks kind of cool to me. I dont know if u can post links but here is one... http://sdwears.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/sd-take-over-outfit-blood-ad2.jpg

Thank you for your time guys.

what a great idea

Possibly as long as SE doesn't gender lock clothing! I've seen many male characters with coatees etc.

On a side note, no offence if you aren't trolling but if you were actually transgender, wouldn't you be playing your desired sex in game? I'm not sure if you have transgender and transvestite confused, unless you are RPing a pre-op of course.

I just dont see why i have to wear these hyur underwears and chest X straps. Those X straps make me feel like im a dominatrix or something, not that its bad. I want to be able to wear female clothing as well. I just dont see why im so limited at this day and age. Also on a side note transvestite is kind of an offensive term to some people, but i dont mind the word. Just be careful what you say...

I wouldn't mind being able to run around bare-chested. My guy could use a tan. And I think it sucks that women get all of the gender-specific armor like they did in FFXI. I think all men had were some kind of suit, while women had the wedding dress, corsage, and the opaline from what I remember.

And I think it would be awesome if, even though the outfit is designed for a specific gender, that it's not locked to that gender. A woman in a tux might actually be hot. And what if for Halloween a guy wanted to dress up like a woman? Or he lost a bet and had to?

Sorry, just trying to think of other reasons for them to actually do this. Of course it also needs to be done for our transgender (transvestite? I'm dyslexic and get confused with them myself) players so they don't feel left out of everyone's idea and can RP the way they want.

Edit: I mentioned being able to run around bare-chested because straps across the chest was brought up if anyone wonders that ...

This game obviously need to see Summerfest swimsuits come back into play. Could make the most manly man question his sexuality with some of the suggestive outfits the males characters got.

that suit would look great at a wedding of the same sex!
keep the ideas coming!

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Originally Posted by AngrySadMan

Also on a side note transvestite is kind of an offensive term to some people, but i dont mind the word. Just be careful what you say...

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On a side note, it is generally inappropriate aka against the rules to disclose your sexual orientation etc on forums, just be careful what YOU say. :)

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Originally Posted by Nikita

On a side note, it is generally inappropriate aka against the rules to disclose your sexual orientation etc on forums, just be careful what YOU say. :)

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On a side note Im not talking about my sexual orientation im just saying in general. Seriously, thanks for trolling me.

I RP as a pre-op who is saving its gil from crafting to become the woman I know I truely am!

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Originally Posted by TonyMontana

I RP as a pre-op who is saving its gil from crafting to become the woman I know I truely am!

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u go girlfriend ^^

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Originally Posted by AngrySadMan

On a side note Im not talking about my sexual orientation im just saying in general. Seriously, thanks for trolling me.

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Lol, now it's obvious you are a troll, especially with the name and post count. Things like sexual orientation, religion, politics, what you refer to yourself as, are generally things that aren't open for discussion on official forums for video games. How about you be a little more considerate?

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

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wow way to ruin a thread of great ideas. this is a house of learned doctors can you please step out

No you're trolling trying to always trump me and put words into my mouth. Rofl talking about religion and politics now...you are not even on topic with what i posted, you just spend time trying to 1 up people like me so who have simple questions or suggestions. Can you be a little more considerate about my questions? Talk you guys later on besaid.

this thread is going a little off topic... i wouldn't mind seeing my character in this outfit

http://cdn.costumesupercenter.com/cs...432/63078F.jpg

Someone can't log into the forums and decide to post at anytime without being a troll, weren't we all at 12 posts at some point in time? How is it trolling when he's asking to be represented, asking for clothes that represent the LGBT community isn't anything different from asking for male miqote and female roegadyn. People are just asking for what represents them, I know that I'm bi racial, being west indian and white, and I loved the clan system because I didn't feel right in XI being a tan mithra when I'm more of a mocha brown color, then i added some fantasy into it and made myself a darker green/grey keeper of the moon. We represent ourselves in fantasy lights, and some people are given the opportunity to it properly i.e in game marriage for couples of all orientations, and better clothes that represent some subsets. Japanese people of all people know about having a vast amount of subcultures with truely eclectic styles. I'm not a lesbian, but I do feel misrepresented as a bi racial person in a lot of settings, so I can understand in some way how the LGBT community feels misrepresented in games.

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Originally Posted by Phrozen

this thread is going a little off topic... i wouldn't mind seeing my character in this outfit

http://cdn.costumesupercenter.com/cs...432/63078F.jpg

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This made me spit laugh.
(Edit: And unfortunately now I cannot stop hearing, "JEMMMMM, She's truly outrageous truly truly truly outrageous!")
As for the topic:
I think it would be interesting if they did add it, but again what you are asking for is a bit odd.
It sounds more like you wish to be seen as androgynous or as a masculine man wearing female clothing.
I simply do not understand why someone who is transgendered wouldn't just play as the sex they view themselves as.

*Shrug*

Edit 2:
As someone else has stated, this sounds more like "transvestite" than "Transgendered".

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

Someone can't log into the forums and decide to post at anytime without being a troll, weren't we all at 12 posts at some point in time? How is it trolling when he's asking to be represented, asking for clothes that represent the LGBT community isn't anything different from asking for male miqote and female roegadyn. People are just asking for what represents them, I know that I'm bi racial, being west indian and white, and I loved the clan system because I didn't feel right in XI being a tan mithra when I'm more of a mocha brown color, then i added some fantasy into it and made myself a darker green/grey keeper of the moon. We represent ourselves in fantasy lights, and some people are given the opportunity to it properly i.e in game marriage for couples of all orientations, and better clothes that represent some subsets. Japanese people of all people know about having a vast amount of subcultures with truely eclectic styles. I'm not a lesbian, but I do feel misrepresented as a bi racial person in a lot of settings, so I can understand in some way how the LGBT community feels misrepresented in games.

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Great way of putting it :)

I'm starting to feel that this is turning into another thread that was closed because of a huge dispute similar to this....
This is the thread I'm referring to: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rvice-in-FFXIV
Please don't let it end up like that :/

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

Someone can't log into the forums and decide to post at anytime without being a troll, weren't we all at 12 posts at some point in time?

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It was clear from the OP that it was just a troll that didn't even know the meaning of being transgender.

Funny for someone like you that wants different groups, ideologies, ethnicity, orientation etc to be tolerated and accepted so much you post ridiculous things like

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

If i saw a person jumping repeatedly in game for no reason, multiple times (like oh saw that guy two days ago jumping like a bunny asshole, and now i see him again today), thats probably a legit reason in my mind to end up on my blist. I know its sad.

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Some people are so dense.

And just to clarify, I completely agree that there should be more options like these to people that will use them.

There arent enough tones of white to accurately represent myself in fantasy form. DO something SE. JEBUS!



Is this another time when the "LGBT community" is allowed to go beyond what any average joe would requests?? - I think it is.

Is it safe to say SE wont be adding cross-gender dressing, besides the humorous kind - which people have already mentioned was breifly touched upon in XI. (beach wear on a galka anyone? *shudders*)

Sorry LGBT guys. Your "community" isn't as large as the rest of the general population and therefore may have to conceed the fact you'll have to bite your tongue and just put up with it. You know, like in most other aspects of you're alternate lives? Im sure there are games out there that let you cross dress and RP with other dudes and dudettes. But this isn't the place. At all.

Yes I may have responded reasonably to a total troll thread. Ohwell.

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Originally Posted by Kam

There arent enough tones of white to accurately represent myself in fantasy form. DO something SE. JEBUS!



Is this another time when the "LGBT community" is allowed to go beyond what any average joe would requests?? - I think it is.

Is it safe to say SE wont be adding cross-gender dressing, besides the humorous kind - which people have already mentioned was breifly touched upon in XI. (beach wear on a galka anyone? *shudders*)

Sorry LGBT guys. Your "community" isn't as large as the rest of the general population and therefore may have to conceed the fact you'll have to bite your tongue and just put up with it. You know, like in most other aspects of you're alternate lives? Im sure there are games out there that let you cross dress and RP with other dudes and dudettes. But this isn't the place. At all.

Yes I may have responded reasonably to a total troll thread. Ohwell.

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^ Voice of Reason.

The sense of entitlement out of that particular "community" is a thing to behold.

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Originally Posted by Kam

Is it safe to say SE wont be adding cross-gender dressing, besides the humorous kind - which people have already mentioned was breifly touched upon in XI. (beach wear on a galka anyone? *shudders*)

Sorry LGBT guys.

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Fun fact:
Most crossdressers are straight.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

^ Voice of Reason.

The sense of entitlement out of that particular "community" is a thing to behold.

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There's a difference between "I SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING BECAUSE I'M SPECIAL!" and "STOP TREATING ME LIKE CRAP AND ALLOW ME TO LEAD A NORMAL LIFE WITH THE SAME RIGHTS AS EVERYONE ELSE! I JUST WANT TO GET MARRIED, RAISE KIDS, GO TO WORK WITHOUT BEING WORRIED OF HARASSMENT , VISIT MY SIGNIFICANT OTHER IN THE HOSPITAL, AND BE ABLE TO BE THE GENDER I WAS BORN AS! DAMMIT WHY MUST YOU MAKE THIS SO DIFFICULT!?"

Now then,
Can we stay on the topic?

Topic:
Cross Dressing/androgynous dressing.

Get on that.

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Originally Posted by Kam

Sorry LGBT guys. Your "community" isn't as large as the rest of the general population and therefore may have to conceed the fact you'll have to bite your tongue and just put up with it. You know, like in most other aspects of you're alternate lives? Im sure there are games out there that let you cross dress and RP with other dudes and dudettes. But this isn't the place. At all.

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Regardless of this being a troll thread or not, what I have quoted seems pretty offensive, and that's coming from a straight man. That's basically saying they have no rights whatsoever because they're a minority, and it's wrong to deny anyone any kind of rights because of that, I don't care what society you live in.

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Originally Posted by Xeak

Regardless of this being a troll thread or not, what I have quoted seems pretty offensive, and that's coming from a straight man. That's basically saying they have no rights whatsoever because they're a minority, and it's wrong to deny anyone any kind of rights because of that, I don't care what society you live in.

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I never realized that access to transgendered clothing in a video game was a right.

Lots of oppressed people out there.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

I never realized that access to transgendered clothing in a video game was a right.

Lots of oppressed people out there.

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Kam's post is basically saying that the LGBT community have no say in anything to do with this game if it's something specifically for them because they're a minority. That's what I was referring to. I understand that Kam was talking specifically about cross-dressing, but there were two sentences in there that really sounded like she was telling them to shut up about anything that they want specifically for them. I guess I should picked out just those sentences in the quote instead of the whole paragraph....

I really think this thread should be locked. I don't think it's possible for this to not turn into a gigantic flame war.

arnt elven men already transgender?

on a serious note. yes im all for costumes and apparel.

holiday events gear yes please!!

btw someone brought up in another post. we need a event gear npc to hold our stuff like 11 :)

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Originally Posted by NaBluiri

I really think this thread should be locked. I don't think it's possible for this to not turn into a gigantic flame war.

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Like I said before, it's turning into another thread about wedding service that was locked because of this. Think they'll start banning people from the forums if this keeps up? O.o

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Originally Posted by Xeak

Kam's post is basically saying that the LGBT community have no say in anything to do with this game if it's something specifically for them because they're a minority. That's what I was referring to. I understand that Kam was talking specifically about cross-dressing, but there were two sentences in there that really sounded like she was telling them to shut up about anything that they want specifically for them. I guess I should picked out just those sentences in the quote instead of the whole paragraph....

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You need a lesson or two in what context is.
No I dont belive ANY community should have a specific say in what they want added for themselves.
SE will only view it the same way as me. They view us as "players". Nothing more individualistic than that. At all. When was the last time you had a questionnaire from SE asking your age, race, gender, orientation?

Never?

[SIZE="7"]Thats 'cus they don't care - sexual preferance is not a vaild means to add anything to a game. Ever.[/SIZE] (unless its one of them seedy ones I hinted at in my first "biased" reply)

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Originally Posted by Kam

There arent enough tones of white to accurately represent myself in fantasy form. DO something SE. JEBUS! Is this another time when the "LGBT community" is allowed to go beyond what any average joe would requests?? - I think it is.

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I know it's difficult for you to grasp, so I'll try to be nice and spell it out in really easy terms: Average Joe doesn't need to request to be represented, since he already is. (That, for your information, is the sociological meaning of the word "average.") You cannot compare the needs of under-represented minorities or majorities with that of over-represented ones. Average Joe claiming for more representation is greedy, whereas the OP wants to feel more human than she/he feels within a set of structures that exclude him or ignore her. That is assuming he/she is not trolling. But even in that case, the theory stands.

On the other hand, I also remind his/her critics, that there are some within the LGBT community that lack the gender polarization most have, and some of them want to remain within this ambivalent, trans-gendered, non-polar state and identify themselves as transgendered as well.

I dont think there is a such thing as "GLBT friendly clothing", I would assume the OP is a troll. But androgynous vanity items would be fun. They are pretty common in games, though. I'm sure they will come eventually.

The picture the OP posted makes me think of some kind of fetish/transvestite attire and IMO has no place in a game like FFXIV lol, the ratings and target audience simply don't match that image.

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Originally Posted by Rutelor

I know it's difficult for you to grasp, so I'll try to be nice and spell it out in really easy terms: Average Joe doesn't need to request to be represented, since he already is. (That, for your information, is the sociological meaning of the word "average.") You cannot compare the needs of under-represented minorities or majorities with that of over-represented ones. Average Joe claiming for more representation is greedy, whereas the OP wants to feel more human than she/he feels within a set of structures that exclude him or ignore her. That is assuming he/she is not trolling. But even in that case, the theory stands.

On the other hand, I also remind his/her critics, that there are some within the LGBT community that lack the gender polarization most have, and some of them want to remain within this ambivalent, trans-gendered, non-polar state and identify themselves as transgendered as well.

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Well, isn't it something like 90% of the population have a degree of bi-sexuality. And 40% of people are somewhat "totally" homosexual.

I think you and I have different meanings for the term "average joe". I'd consider the average joe to be 40% homosexual. lol.

The "LGBT Community" as we know it - imo - Is something completely different from the average person.

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Originally Posted by Ava

I dont think there is a such thing as "GLBT friendly clothing", I would assume the OP is a troll. But androgynous vanity items would be fun. They are pretty common in games, though. I'm sure they will come eventually.

The picture the OP posted makes me think of some kind of fetish/transvestite attire and IMO has no place in a game like FFXIV lol, the ratings and target audience simply don't match that image.

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Yeah thats what I sort-of took from it.

They should cut out the middle man and let you pick your gender when you start playing,

Greetings, everyone!
Thank you for posting your ideas for new clothing for the game. Unfortunately, it seems that the thread has gone a bit off-topic, so I had to close the thread. I can assure you, though, we will make sure to take all of your comments into consideration, and we encourage all of you to continue to share all of your constructive suggestions with us in these forums. Thanks again for your participation!