Healer LB3

I've read and seen that healer LB3 restores 100% hp/mp and will rez everyone. Does it not effect the person using it? Does it only effect you if you're dead? I was doing turn 2 with no bard and thought whm lb3 would be good to fill up mp for healers. We tried it but it looked like it only filled up the one healer that was dead. Does it not fill everyone's mp?

I believe it fills up everyone's but the person using it.

It doesn't affect the person using it, which combined with that extreme animation lock wind-down makes it incredibly dangerous to use. It's utility is also pretty limited because if you're at the point where multiple people are down usually its an execution error that will just happen again when they're back up.

Ok thanks. Yeah figured it could come in handy to fill mp when no bard and dps was kinda low on turn 2 (no melee for lb either). Guess that probably won't help if it only fills one healer though.

It's such a lame lb lol, it's like a suicidal one at most times.
1) it has range sooo u gotta position yourself in the middle of the raid
2) it refills everyone except you etc.
3) that lockdown animation on you, usually ur the last one to move after everyone has revived.
4) worse thing is when u revive everyone you end up dying yourself more than half the time.
Like wtf lol why is our LB so hard to pull off? xD

Usually, if I use LB3, an AoE will spawn underneath me and I die or the boss gives me a good one in the face.

I would like a friendlier LB3 please. Give us immunity while casting it and let it affect us too.

I had an amazing save using it as a bard with both healers dead as well as 3 other dps on Thornmarch HM so it's not completely useless. ;D

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Originally Posted by Kairobot

I had an amazing save using it as a bard with both healers dead as well as 3 other dps on Thornmarch HM so it's not completely useless. ;D

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That's the thing though, it works better as a bard because BOTH healers will have full MP and can just raise you if you end up dying anyway while casting it. If a healer uses it, he/she is essentially screwing him/herself over to save the other healer, so the overall benefit is lessened. So in the end the "healer" LB is gimping if a healer has to use it, and thus, why it should be looked at for tweeks.

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Originally Posted by Kairobot

I had an amazing save using it as a bard with both healers dead as well as 3 other dps on Thornmarch HM so it's not completely useless. ;D

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I feel like I was in this run with you. Because I had a Thornmarch run where that happened: both healers and all but one Bard got pulled in by the PLD's charm right into a huge Moogle Go Round and just totally wiped out and the Bard saved everyone's butts by pulling a LB3 off. It was a pretty epic save, and we managed to Protect everyone and get back on heals and completed the run.

Replace the WHM limit break with Louisoix's bubble from the opening cinematic :D.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Replace the WHM limit break with Louisoix's bubble from the opening cinematic :D.

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I'd rather get his teleport spell, personally.

I have used it a few times where I was the only one left alive (or me and a tank), but it's always proven to be completely useless. Everyone I rez die shorty after, and if I'm being targetted, I dies as well. I'm not sure when I am supposed to use it because I doubt that's what they inteded it for.

It's not completely useless, but in general if you have a situation where a lot of folks are dead, it's because A) they were handling mechanics poorly and thus a rez won't help, or B) the tank died, and the rampaging boss is probably going to wreck everyone before/as soon as the rezzes finish.

I've saved pulls with it, but it's very, VERY rare.

The worst part is that now you have a whole party with weakness >_>

Good luck surviving anything with a party of 7 squishies. They should really make it so it rezzes you with no penalty...

I've had a few successful attempts with it but it is very situational because of the animation lock.

If a lot of people are dead during Ifrit HM after Hellfire phase (Some people have trouble avoiding plumes...) immediately run to the middle after he does his last tackle and use it. You should be able to pull it off successfully.
I was once in a party with low ilvl players who were doing Ifrit HM for the first time and couldn't dodge plumes well. Only me and the tank survived after people were dropping like flies and I managed to raise 6 people with the limit break and we all won :D

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

It's such a lame lb lol, it's like a suicidal one at most times.
1) it has range sooo u gotta position yourself in the middle of the raid
2) it refills everyone except you etc.
3) that lockdown animation on you, usually ur the last one to move after everyone has revived.
4) worse thing is when u revive everyone you end up dying yourself more than half the time.
Like wtf lol why is our LB so hard to pull off? xD

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Hell if I know. Healer LB will never been part of a battle strategy in it's current state though, that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by Bigpurpleharness

Hell if I know. Healer LB will never been part of a battle strategy in it's current state though, that's for sure.

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That's cause generally "OK everyone die" is not really a strategy people use =P

I'd rather they just take LB away from healers and give me old bene back ^^o

don't know if its still the case but back in the old days a lb would reset all cooldowns too, which had some uses in places
doesn't take long to build a LB1 and if you didn't have a caster to use meteor it was a good alternative to give the tank all their stuff back for big pulls

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Originally Posted by sheepysheepy

don't know if its still the case but back in the old days a lb would reset all cooldowns too, which had some uses in places
doesn't take long to build a LB1 and if you didn't have a caster to use meteor it was a good alternative to give the tank all their stuff back for big pulls

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Old days how? I never recall that, but I've used it maybe twice total so I'm not doubting you, just wondering when they changed it. That would be useful.

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Originally Posted by Bigpurpleharness

Old days how? I never recall that, but I've used it maybe twice total so I'm not doubting you, just wondering when they changed it. That would be useful.

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we only ever used this back when WP started giving myth and we didn't have a smn/blm online but there were a few times where it was nice and the tank chained HG so we could spam holy more, i havn't tried it since around the time myth cap was raised from 300