ATMA nerf

Will SE make it easier to obtain ATMA in future releases? If so, I would like to hold off farming ATMA

No. You got to do it now. Or suffer the endless rants of unqiue snowflakes complaining how ppl doing Atma got it easy and they are not unqiue anymore.

More likely, yes. But not sure when.

I'd prefer if they increased the drop rate only if the game detects an Animus in your inventory. Meaning it'd be easier, but only for those who have reached the end of the grind.

increased the drop rate would be better.

As my fellow forum users mentioned, nerf ATMA by increasing the drop rate.





To 100% drop rate, preferably.

I'm still not doing it. I'm still offended by it.

Ok, lets make atma a guranteed drop at all fates in the zone

Then what?

Novus? Yeah, it will be i101, its too easy to earn, no sense in making it tied with BiS.

They will make atma easier to get eventually.

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Originally Posted by BamDeafPie

They will make atma easier to get eventually.

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Emphasis on "eventually"

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Ok, lets make atma a guranteed drop at all fates in the zone

Then what?

Novus? Yeah, it will be i101, its too easy to earn, no sense in making it tied with BiS.

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No don't have to be guranteed drop but just higher change get it drop.

I find it funny that the people that cleared turn 5 first whined that the echo buff was being introduced to nerf coil so soon, but those same people were crying for an atma nerf within the first two weeks it was released. I say do like they did with coil, let it ride for 6 months or so, then increase it 5% every 2 weeks until it hits the echo percentage cap.

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

I find it funny that the people that cleared turn 5 first whined that the echo buff was being introduced to nerf coil so soon, but those same people were crying for an atma nerf within the first two weeks it was released. I say do like they did with coil, let it ride for 6 months or so, then increase it 5% every 2 weeks until it hits the echo percentage cap.

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Only matters at that point if it replaces high allagan.

They've made other content easier in the past, so it's always likely to be changed later on. I just wouldn't get your hopes up high of it being made significantly different for half a year or so.

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

I find it funny that the people that cleared turn 5 first whined that the echo buff was being introduced to nerf coil so soon, but those same people were crying for an atma nerf within the first two weeks it was released. I say do like they did with coil, let it ride for 6 months or so, then increase it 5% every 2 weeks until it hits the echo percentage cap.

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echo buff do basic nothing, Just kill T5 faster, but people keep die from mechism echo buff simply does nothing.
Atma farming by fates its not hard, but its boring after few hours/day and stil have 0 drops

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

I'd prefer if they increased the drop rate only if the game detects an Animus in your inventory. Meaning it'd be easier, but only for those who have reached the end of the grind.

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that isn't a bad idea but still with a RGN it may be still hard. But increasing drops rates the more you have with you would not be a bad way to fix it, I got my first one tough a beast tribe fate.

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Originally Posted by Tagihi

echo buff do basic nothing, Just kill T5 faster, but people keep die from mechism echo buff simply does nothing.
Atma farming by fates its not hard, but its boring after few hours/day and stil have 0 drops

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I see how you might have misunderstood me, don't give fates the echo buff, wait 6 months like they did with coil, then up the atma drop rate 5% every two weeks. As for atma farming being hard, it isn't meant to be, it's meant to be time consuming, the challenge isn't if you can complete the fates, it's if you can tough it out until you get your drops. If it is too boring, you don't have to do it, but it's there if you want stick it out.

Can't wait for the atma drop rates to get a buff, I definitely do no want to do it all over again for my other 50s :/.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

Can't wait for the atma drop rates to get a buff, I definitely do no want to do it all over again for my other 50s :/.

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This is something I am cautiously hoping they wanted all along. The idea that 'the average player' would commit the time to get just 1 then move on

...For a more distinct spread of classes in endgame.

Maybe have it where having an Atma upgraded weapon(or higher) in your inventory increases drop rate. Than also having a buffed for drop rate for first time Atma people.

Something to reward the player for getting Atma and also encouraging newcomers to get their first Atma. As it is right now Id rather touch crafting and gathering classes, when I first started and tried those jobs I thought they were the most boring classes ever. Now that I am at Atma, boy was I dead wrong. They are completely fun to do at the sight of completing Atma.

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Originally Posted by HumsterMKX

No. You got to do it now. Or suffer the endless rants of unqiue snowflakes complaining how ppl doing Atma got it easy and they are not unqiue anymore.

More likely, yes. But not sure when.

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I love how someone always throws out the 'unique snowflake' BS in every Atma topic. Nothing unique about it when at least one other person has it. Also, does it really burn people that bad that they don't have something that other people worked their asses off for? But yeah, let's make it less time consuming for the people that are so special that they think they should have the same thing for less effort. I'd also like to note that I as well as many members of my FC have their Atma/Animus and it's probably because they didn't waste all of their time crying about the drop rate on the forums. Just sayin'.

Someday yes, when new players come in and hit this point of the relic quest it'll be a big time roadblock to advance content. Doubt SE would risk turning off new players like that. Who knows though.

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Originally Posted by infinitezero

'unique snowflake' BS

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Yeah for someone like me who does and very little free time on there hands due to my work some content needs to be made easier not to mention FFXIV had a lot of special gear like Coil gear or even gear from the Lighting event or even the XI and Dragon quest cross over. In my FC there are a few players who enjoy it because it reminds them of how XI content was hard, you know what else that content had? Ultima boss fight where the boss had a move so strong players would have to sacrifices a tank and run several rooms away just to avoid a wipe. Yes we need Atma to have a better RNG timer its insane to think I can spend 4 hours in a zone and get nothing doing every fate that pops but when a friend I invite to help make it more bearable and her gets atma after two fates while I sit empty handed in not fun.

They would eventually. When? Who knows...

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Originally Posted by Leomoon

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Then don't focus so much of your limited play time on something heavily reliant on RNG. You can only spend 4 hours and get nothing because you chose to spend 4 hours trying. With the wide variety of content in this game there is to tackle, you have other options if you want faster (or less reliant on RNG) progression. Sorry, but you can't expect to have everything be obtainable in the time frame you desire. I'm pretty sure this game was not designed to make everything go so quick that people like us with moderately busy real life schedules could have everything they want out of the game and lose all reason to keep playing.

Will they, and should they increase the drop rate? Sure. But not right now. It will probably come along with the Novus update, which seems like a reasonable time for it... but then I'm sure people will find something to complain about with Novus and then you'll see 1000 different threads of 'unique snowflakes' calling people that already have it 'unique snowflakes'.

So much QQ over a 2% drop rate. Man I didn't realize there were so many people playing this game that have never played a RPG before.

they can make it once you get animus, you can buy atma from NPC...otherwise, farm atma for 9 weps can be pain in the ass

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Originally Posted by Tagihi

echo buff do basic nothing, Just kill T5 faster, but people keep die from mechism echo buff simply does nothing.
Atma farming by fates its not hard, but its boring after few hours/day and stil have 0 drops

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It does actually. Gives MT more HP to absorb death sentance. Gives more damage to burn conflags, snakes and DKs. Plus more HP so less people needed to soak fireballs thus even more time on conflags.

Last Saturday I dedicated to atma farming according to atma time list. I got 7 atmas in 14 hours. Previously I got two atmas by simply doing dailies. Pretty good drop rate in my opinion.

I got 8 atmas in 1 sitting of about 10 hours. I felt like i was a zombie for fating that long. It was past 12am pdt so there were barely anyone running fates so it was just me and my choco lol.
Honestly this is BS for people who can't play this long, i felt so lucky after my previous attempt of trying to obtain it back at 2.2 launch. So honestly they really need to fix this and make it less grindy. Also lol wtf is with the whole " special snowflake " comments? It sounds so dumb lol. Ppl here are trying and that's what counts.

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Originally Posted by Hippo

Will SE make it easier to obtain ATMA in future releases? If so, I would like to hold off farming ATMA

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If they nerf ATMA, it will be harder to obtain.

If they buff, they increase drop rate.

So which one you asking for?

I still think depending on the time should be when u see a higher drop rate but it should always be changing so its never the same time.

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

I got 8 atmas in 1 sitting of about 10 hours. I felt like i was a zombie for fating that long. It was past 12am pdt so there were barely anyone running fates so it was just me and my choco lol.
Honestly this is BS for people who can't play this long, i felt so lucky after my previous attempt of trying to obtain it back at 2.2 launch. So honestly they really need to fix this and make it less grindy. Also lol wtf is with the whole " special snowflake " comments? It sounds so dumb lol. Ppl here are trying and that's what counts.

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Well no-one forced you to FATE grind for 10 hours straight, You could easily have spread it to 5 hours for 2 days, or 3 hrs for 3 days. ^_^

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Originally Posted by Erendis

Last Saturday I dedicated to atma farming according to atma time list. I got 7 atmas in 14 hours. Previously I got two atmas by simply doing dailies. Pretty good drop rate in my opinion.

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that time list is fake doesn't work you got those drops by luck and chance even Yoshida stated it doesn't work and its just luck.

Even if that was luck, the drop rate was good. Going to try and get my last 3 atmas next weekend.

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Originally Posted by Erendis

Even if that was luck, the drop rate was good. Going to try and get my last 3 atmas next weekend.

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You simply got lucky, the drop rate is absurdly low. One of my FC mates got one from first FATE. And one got a few in a matter of hours, hasn't seen one in a month after that. I stopped trying long ago, haven't got a single one.

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Originally Posted by Sove92

I stopped trying long ago, haven't got a single one.

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Doing the fates is involved in getting the atmas, you can't not do fates and expect for them to magically jump in your inventory.

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

Doing the fates is involved in getting the atmas, you can't not do fates and expect for them to magically jump in your inventory.

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I have no idea what you are trying to say.

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Originally Posted by Sove92

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

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I was saying you have to do fates to get atmas, if you stop doing fates, then it is normal for you to not have any atmas, really no need to complain about not getting any atmas from not doing fates.

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Originally Posted by Sove92

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

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Something like "since you need to do fates to get your atmas... do fates". Kinda

You got luck, Erendis. I got all my atmas in about 10-12 hours of fates farm and i didn't follow any method. Pure rng

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

I was saying you have to do fates to get atmas, if you stop doing fates, then it is normal for you to not have any atmas, really no need to complain about not getting any atmas from not doing fates.

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I did grind on FATEs, didn't get anything but frustration during that time, I gave up, way too boring and frustrating.

http://www.xivnomnom.com/wp-content/...42214_atma.png

I rather kill Levi 100 times for it than do this stupid crap.