Racism and Sexism

Not what you're probably thinking of. I just had this thought about a set of weekly quests that require certain races and/or genders to be in your party (4-man, 8-man groups, if not 2). It would bolster interactivity with others, provided the rewards were well-due (increased gil, tomes, rare items?)

One in particular, involving the Monk temple and the Fist of Ralghr, called "U Mad Bro?" Where at the final boss, if you had a male Hyur Highlander in the group (which would be necessary to do the quest) said character would become confused during the boss battle, so you'd have to deal with one of your own members coming after you while dealing with the boss/AoE/etc. Maybe even throw in some non-fighting mechanics where you have to activate and control a certain machine in order to weaken the boss but have to keep the confused member from attacking the person utilizing said mechanic in order to do so?

Just a thought. Maybe you guys have other ideas you'd like to chime in with?

Generally speaking, you don't increase community participation and integration by making arbitrary racial/gender requirements. That goes for in game and out of game.

There's a reason some people get pretty agitated when they see Lalafell only PF groups, you know.

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Originally Posted by Bombast

Generally speaking, you don't increase community participation and integration by making arbitrary racial/gender requirements. That goes for in game and out of game.

There's a reason some people get pretty agitated when they see Lalafell only PF groups, you know.

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The idea just came as I saw how awesome it was to have to actually interact with other players to finish the Valentine's quests. I just think it'd be nice to have more of a sense of community than "o i need 3-7 moar ppl 2 dunjun" etc.

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Originally Posted by A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider

The idea just came as I saw how awesome it was to have to actually interact with other players to finish the Valentine's quests. I just think it'd be nice to have more of a sense of community than "o i need 3-7 moar ppl 2 dunjun" etc.

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Then I suppose we'll have to disagree on wether arbitrary is a good thing..

There's a huge difference between 'need two more people' and 'need two more male Miqo'te.' And not for the better.

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Originally Posted by Bombast

Then I suppose we'll have to disagree on wether arbitrary is a good thing..

There's a huge difference between 'need two more people' and 'need two more male Miqo'te.' And not for the better.

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I can understand how it might cause a bit of alienation though. I would just like to see more of a community interaction within the game as a whole. It wouldn't even have to be for dungeon-type/related quests either. Could just be some mini-games, etc. The race might not even have to come into play either. It'd be nice to have some unique opportunities to learn more about the lore of the game as well.

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Originally Posted by Bombast

There's a reason some people get pretty agitated when they see Lalafell only PF groups, you know.

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Bwahahahaha!!! That actually happens?
That's sort of funny, but at the same time, it doesn't have the "obviously trolling" feel behind it.
Like the all DRG, ilvl95, know the fight or KICK, serious play Sastasha runs.

That said, this game is already annoying to get a party together, so adding restrictions on things like class and race is going to do little more than add annoyance.

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Originally Posted by i2agnarok

Bwahahahaha!!! That actually happens?
That's sort of funny, but at the same time, it doesn't have the "obviously trolling" feel behind it.
Like the all DRG, ilvl95, know the fight or KICK, serious play Sastasha runs.

That said, this game is already annoying to get a party together, so adding restrictions on things like class and race is going to do little more than add annoyance.

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Balmung has several lalafell only FCs, at least one of which I trolled for an hour in Outer La Noscea, where they were trying to recruit in shout chat. I was trying to rally the server to 'million man march' against the 'racist organization.'

It was fun.

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Originally Posted by i2agnarok

Bwahahahaha!!! That actually happens?
That's sort of funny, but at the same time, it doesn't have the "obviously trolling" feel behind it.
Like the all DRG, ilvl95, know the fight or KICK, serious play Sastasha runs.

That said, this game is already annoying to get a party together, so adding restrictions on things like class and race is going to do little more than add annoyance.

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Well I'm thinking new quests for ALL races/sexes. With some nifty payouts due to the "restrictions" on them, but just something that promotes community interaction and "less than desirable" party formations. It might help those who need it to learn to play their jobs better and those who are already well enough at theirs some leisurely time with an interesting payout. But at least something different. It feels like people are only doing the same 3 "quests" over and over.

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Originally Posted by Bombast

There's a reason some people get pretty agitated when they see Lalafell only PF groups, you know.

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Whats funny is you rarely see any other race doing this. Ppl who play lala are...well...nvm

Frankly imo they could just get rid of the lala race, Eorzea would be all the better for it

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Originally Posted by Bombast

There's a reason some people get pretty agitated when they see Lalafell only PF groups, you know.

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This has never happened on Mateus. Ever. If it has, I never bothered with it. People who are that close-minded aren't even worth the time and hassle.

Bwahahaha, Balmung is like notorious for a bunch of wacky stories.
nb4masterrace
I agree that variety would be nice, but the problem with novel mechanics is that they'll be fun and entertaining for the first couple runs, but then they'll just turn into a routine once people get used to it, and after that point it turns into another race to get through the shortest dungeon in the quickest amount of time possible.

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Bwahahaha, Balmung is like notorious for a bunch of wacky stories.
nb4masterrace
I agree that variety would be nice, but the problem with novel mechanics is that they'll be fun and entertaining for the first couple runs, but then they'll just turn into a routine once people get used to it, and after that point it turns into another race to get through the shortest dungeon in the quickest amount of time possible.

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Isn't that the case with everything though?

So rage.
Much e-peen.
Very pride.
Wow.

Instead of making a quest doable only if you have a certain race or sex, why not have a boss that has an effect for each race and gender and have a random party member be hit with their corresponding effect, or if there are multiple party members of the same race and gender (2 fem lala for ex.), have them all hit with the effect. That way you don't have to find a specific race or gender for the quest and it can still add a random aspect to the fight to keep things interesting. We can also go one step further and have no premade parties. Make it a roulette and keep it exciting. 10 myth/sold and a random piece of equipment.

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Originally Posted by Bombast

Generally speaking, you don't increase community participation and integration by making arbitrary racial/gender requirements. That goes for in game and out of game.

There's a reason some people get pretty agitated when they see Lalafell only PF groups, you know.

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Definately. God forbid people have a bit of fun in a game eh? I mean what could be more antagonizing than requiring a specific race of midgets for a group?

sigh. If kids took their ettiquette and manners and compassion as seriously as they take their grammer policing, and necro lecturing, and faux political correctness... this generation would be SO much better off.

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Originally Posted by EpicCid

Instead of making a quest doable only if you have a certain race or sex, why not have a boss that has an effect for each race and gender and have a random party member be hit with their corresponding effect.

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Ultros confirmed.

Gah. I dont think affirmative action in video games will work.