Brayflox HM and leaving after second boss

Is there some way to change this specific dungeon so that people will stop leaving after the second boss? I have been in several Duty Finder groups lately where this has happened, ultimately causing us to vote abandon because we cant get another member in to fill the spot.

Perhaps in this dungeon only, make it so all the tome rewards drop from the last boss or something?

You could just party finder it, Duty Finder is more unreliable than Party Finder.

Those people are spamming myth instead of sold, they shouldn't be using df for their myth spam. They should start a pf for two first two bosses of flox hm. Prob the only way to get the myth grinders to do last boss is to have it drop enough myth to be worth it after you've called sold. I don't df any dungeons I just cap with fc. This way you don't have two other people outta the loop but I understand some people are not able for various reasons to run fc so I'd pf and get a good group of 4 and just spam runs.

There's no way to stop it. It's simply too easy to farm myth from. People should not be farming in DF though. One, because it's just rude. Two, because it's dumb. You're taking a 30 min hit. Just run with your FC or use PF. There's no shortage of people wanting to do it.

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Originally Posted by Cap75

There's no way to stop it. It's simply too easy to farm myth from. People should not be farming in DF though. One, because it's just rude. Two, because it's dumb. You're taking a 30 min hit. Just run with your FC or use PF. There's no shortage of people wanting to do it.

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It is pretty retarded, as in that 30 min hit they could have farmed it 3-4 times with a preset party.

the best solution would be to give all the myth at the end of the duty, but give an additional 30-50 myth at the end. doing a full bray fox run at about 15 mins for 50 myth at its current state would be awful. 100 myth in 15 mins would be about what it is now. i also think 1500 myth a book is too much. i think there should be a couple more books, but less myth required to obtain one. the book should be the main focus, not the grinding of myth, one dungeon, over and over. gets old fast.

I run through all my roulettes to start my game day. I don't like when people bone out after second boss in flox hm, but it happens, luckily I am in there as tank and whoever leaves, usually dps, pops in right away. Those that leave have no class. Start a PF group to grind your myth. I mean, really, a full SR of flox hm should take 10mins at most. Either do that or get a PF for myth runs that should take ~6.

GL to you in the future and I hope your luck improves with getting a group that stays.

Syn

Farming Sol Stones is so easy because of this issue. I just que and then fight only 1 or 2 mobs and the final boss right away. Weee! ^.^

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Originally Posted by Vespar

Is there some way to change this specific dungeon so that people will stop leaving after the second boss? I have been in several Duty Finder groups lately where this has happened, ultimately causing us to vote abandon because we cant get another member in to fill the spot.

Perhaps in this dungeon only, make it so all the tome rewards drop from the last boss or something?

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Look at it the other way.

Last week I caped Soldiery in one night just by joining in-progress Bryaflox HM on healer job. Insta-queue and I never troll the DF for getting in-progress party, it just happened, because yeah, people leave after second boss. And second boss is pretty damn close to last boss. Making cap Soldiery absolutely fast. :)

I choose not to play much during the week, so it's make things faster for me during the week-end, and so I have more in-game time for other stuff than capping soldiery. /o/

EDIT: Basically what Ashett just said, lol.

Dunno what happened to yoshida's idea of not encouraging speed runs? Like he did to AK in the past.

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Originally Posted by Ashett

Farming Sol Stones is so easy because of this issue. I just que and then fight only 1 or 2 mobs and the final boss right away. Weee! ^.^

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YES!!! "Party in progress" is your friend here.

big demand for myth leads to brayflox speed runs. Myth only dropping from two bosses leads to people dropping after two bosses. Certain people for some reason don't want to use PF to make their own speed run, so they use DF.

Add myth drops to last bosses of the three new dungeons, and maybe that will ease the problem.

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Originally Posted by chococo

Dunno what happened to yoshida's idea of not encouraging speed runs? Like he did to AK in the past.

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Look at Halatali HM. I think that's his attempt at starting the process of destroying speed runs. After the 1st boss, it's near impossible to overdrag mobs since some enemies come out 1 by 1, and others are already in a small group of 3. I have a feeling he'll be doing this again in the future, and I've heard rumors that all the dungeons will get changed to where there are barriers preventing you from going forward before you kill the small groups of enemies already in your way.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Look at Halatali HM. I think that's his attempt at starting the process of destroying speed runs. After the 1st boss, it's near impossible to overdrag mobs since some enemies come out 1 by 1, and others are already in a small group of 3. I have a feeling he'll be doing this again in the future, and I've heard rumors that all the dungeons will get changed to where there are barriers preventing you from going forward before you kill the small groups of enemies already in your way.

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even if areas were gated, mob pulls slowed down etc.
if one dungeon takes 15min and one takes 18min, the 18min dungeon becomes obsolete, SE should test more and release dungeons that are finetuned, 10min or 30min doesn't matter to farmers, as long as there's not 1 clear option thats better than the other

Easiest way to stop people leaving mid way is to make it worthwhile for them to finish the dungeon; i.e. make the final boss drop Myth tomes as well. Maybe they could make Soldiery tome rewards automatically convert into Myth once you've hit the cap for the week.

Wouldn't it be easier to just change how the tomes are distributed? As in instead of giving 20 tomes then 30 tomes for the first two bosses, you get 10 for each boss then get 30 myth tomes and te sol tomes on the final boss.

You would still get 50 myth tomes but I doubt people would consider 15 mins for 20 myth to be worth it.

That's a good point. Redistribution of tomes might work. Hell give a dang bonus for completing the duty. I bet we would have more steady clears then.

"So if I stay for the 10-12mins instead of the 6-8mins I'll get and extra 60or 70 tomes....ok I'm in.

Only time will tell though.

Syn

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Originally Posted by chococo

Dunno what happened to yoshida's idea of not encouraging speed runs? Like he did to AK in the past.

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Difference is WP/AK speedruns where done by the tank running through and grabbing all the mobs possible and dieing in s safe spot so the mobs reset and the healer could rez and they continued.

SRs now are grabbing all, or as many mobs as possible, and burning them down all together instead of a pack at a time. Ones abusing mechanics, the other is using power gained from gear levels to push it harder.