As we figured out few days before, you can be in an odd situation when you phase shift at the wrong time and do the tactic with keeping one or more renauds freezed at the right spot, because the time wents off 2-4 seconds too early until the next voice fires off.
We managed it by phase shifting at 80% and 60% in the moment when voice is casted. However, this doesn't work out with the last phase shift at 35%, the two voices of the old and new phase seem to be too far apart because of the two new abilities. Is this observation true? Or is there a better spot to phase shift at 35%? The fight is a breeze if you can keep one or more (especially 4) Renauds in place.
Another question: Does Shriek repetrify an already petrified Renaud? If so, we adapt simply that we kill 3 of 4 Renauds at last phase shift.
Hint: Don't stall the fight until you placed 4 renauds correctly, do it during the fight without stalling. Melusine has an enrage :) Hysteric smash after 12 (?) minutes hits everyone for 25k :)
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04-30-2014, 04:38 PMGrotesqueTurn 7: How to properly phase shift, thus Renaud don't reawake?
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04-30-2014, 05:06 PMOoshima
Quite impossible to hit enrage on T7, if you do, something's pretty wrong.
Hold your DPS at around 36-37%, once curse shriek is cast, burn her down to push phase. -
04-30-2014, 05:12 PMGrotesqueYeah, that was one run where we stalled the fight until 4 renauds were in place. If you just go through the fight properly you won't see enrage that is true. Thanks for the tip with shriek.Quote:
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04-30-2014, 05:13 PMtOnni3
Is OP using 4 Ranauds method ?
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04-30-2014, 05:17 PMGrotesqueYes, we place all 4 renauds during the fight on one single spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by tOnni3
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04-30-2014, 05:25 PMtOnni3
May I ask how do you make it work (our group is doing normal way but will give this method a try if not that difficult to place Ranauds).
Is there any case where some Ranaud is not stoned on Curse Voice ?
i.e some Ranaud is not stoned when a Ranaud stack completely behind nearest Ranaud, and shodow'd by nearest Ranaud.. -
04-30-2014, 07:00 PMAmaret
The skill from the last add will stone curse the renauds too if they face her ;)
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04-30-2014, 07:24 PMGrotesqueYeah you have to pay attention that all renauds nearly share the same hit box when you place them. Otherwise, it could be the case that one renaud covers another one who doesn't get stoned then by voice. Our bard does a good job at this, and if you can manage it then bard can go full dps without anymore kiting about the time when the range adds spawn. However, you must phase shift properly otherwise you are fucked when the renauds awake 2 seconds before next voice fires (happens when the person in charge gets the long 9s voice).Quote:
Originally Posted by tOnni3
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05-01-2014, 02:27 AMtOnni3
if range dps also voice them at another angle, will it better ?
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05-01-2014, 03:34 AMGrotesqueMaybe, but the risk of getting ppl petrified or burned increases. We keep it on healer only to petrify the renauds. Also healers need not face the target to heal. So you can keep your eye direction away from the ppl all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by tOnni3
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05-01-2014, 11:34 PMKimura410
So in short, stop dps before phase changes until shriek has disappeared, then push the phase and the timings will be ok? We've been downing it, but our dps has gotten better due to gear, and we had problems last night. The petri on the renaud would go off a second or two too early, making the shriek hit everybody. the thing i don't understand is the timers on voice. during the archers, there can be back to back voices, depending on dps i guess, yet in the end, the voices end up too far apart, because of petrifaction? not sure why they don't back to back in the last phase but they do early on. idk, this fights annoying as hell though.
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05-02-2014, 12:28 AMPakuda
4 renaud's OP
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05-02-2014, 01:13 AMElkya95
Sounds like an odd strategy ._. Is it a recommended one? I'm the bard and have some issues (maybe not I just blame myself) so I'm just wondering about strategies >_>
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05-02-2014, 04:05 AMpoipoy
we were also having trouble on the first run yesterday. voice didnt come as usual for healer to petri the 4 giants in time and giants "woke" and wipe the party lol. Then today we retry and suggested that it maybe due to ppl having animus/soldiery upgrades improving dps that mess up the voice timer, so everyone tried to dps slower. In the end, we one shot it in our first attempt. I hope future improvement in upgrades won't make this fight harder >.<
about stacking the Renauds, we just stack them together in a spot with each Reanauds overlapping each other. -
05-02-2014, 06:33 PMGrotesque
Push after Shriek in the last phase was the correct solution, we downed it yesterday *hurray*
Also, when all 4 renauds stack together tightly, they get all hit by shriek and voice all the time, it works like a charm. -
05-02-2014, 06:50 PMtOnni3
Can you please breakdown when the phases change ? like %hp ?
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05-02-2014, 11:36 PMGrotesque
Phase changes are at 80%, 60%, and 35%. We push to 80% and 60% when Voice is casted and we push to 35% when Shriek is done.
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05-03-2014, 12:49 PMAlise
So you guys sure that killing add doesn't trigger the phase change?
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05-03-2014, 06:32 PMGrotesqueWell, yes it queues in but is no phase change I think. If you shift after shriek, either next voice or next shriek will keep the renauds in chess. This was our experience.Quote:
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05-05-2014, 04:30 PMOoshimaNope that isn't a phase changeQuote:
Originally Posted by Alise