So I can sleep now?

World 1st* r40

We need to talk about the current and future state of FFXIV's pvp. I'd much prefer getting paired vs two Smns with raise then hafta struggle with the current system.

Gilgamesh gonna be cranking them out. Transfer and get in the race

.....its all over the chainwax

Rand Paul
Gilgamesh
Shin-Ra FC President

You deserve a well earned rest! Congrats on getting rank40!

You win traded so you do not deserve rank 40 at all...Especially since there are tons of people out there
actually pvping legit to get their gear. This being said I don't acknowledge you as the first, actually I feel like reporting you for abusing the system.

Teach me to win trade to R40 plz...
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Originally Posted by WahPaw

World 1st* r40

We need to talk about the current and future state of FFXIV's pvp. I'd much prefer getting paired vs two Smns with raise then hafta struggle with the current system.

Gilgamesh gonna be cranking them out. Transfer and get in the race

.....its all over the chainwax

Rand Paul
Gilgamesh
Shin-Ra FC President

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Grats

So you guys are grinding out 4v4?

Win-trading is the only feasible way to get to r40 that fast, due to the ridiculous queue times.

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Originally Posted by x037x

Grats

So you guys are grinding out 4v4?

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Every way I could get xp I did. different limitations at different hours required different methods.

When Ranking eventually comes out it will be pretty easy to tell who win-traded to r30+ (not that it is hard to notice now anyway).

Enjoy your "World First". If you can even consider win-trading an accomplishment...

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Originally Posted by Luwnax

When Ranking eventually comes out it will be pretty easy to tell who win-traded to r30+ (not that it is hard to notice now anyway).

Enjoy your "World First". If you can even consider win-trading an accomplishment...

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I'm not going to sit here and defend what he did but let's be realistic. They implemented a grind that people were more than willing to do but there is no viable way to do it currently. The queues are already dying again and I've barely made it half way to 33 (with heavy playing). Hopefully patch 2.28 fixes this somehow otherwise you're going to see a ton of people getting r40 this way.

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Originally Posted by Exiras

I'm not going to sit here and defend what he did but let's be realistic. They implemented a grind that people were more than willing to do but there is no viable way to do it currently. The queues are already dying again and I've barely made it half way to 33 (with heavy playing). Hopefully patch 2.28 fixes this somehow otherwise you're going to see a ton of people getting r40 this way.

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Very true there. I'm in strong disagreement with the overall bragging going on here and what he did, but would I do the same? Maybe. Rank 27 here, so quite a ways off yet, but if they don't fix anything I mean, I have two choices. Farm the 30's and 40's with premade groups at the expense of others, or do what he did? Not exactly great options. Let's hope they see it as a problem. I probably would quit until 2.3 and then go off and do something else to burn time until Frontlines.

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Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl

You deserve a well earned rest! Congrats on getting rank40!

You win traded so you do not deserve rank 40 at all...Especially since there are tons of people out there
actually pvping legit to get their gear. This being said I don't acknowledge you as the first, actually I feel like reporting you for abusing the system.

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Do I sense some jelly-monster that other people couldn't/didn't think of a way to level up, and put in the enormous amounts of hours upon hours to BE that world first. Even though it's not sitting in 20 minute waits, he did it. He put in the time. Don't think he doesn't have skill? Challenge him and fight him. If you win, you are right, if he kicks your butt, then I guess a real PvP bard who knows how to Pvp just leveled up his stuff so he can deal with raids, other in-game content, and real world stuff.

Second time I've seen the whole jealousy / u mad response concerning this topic. It's not needed. That said, the second half of what you said is valid. But that isn't even the issue here. It's a matter of this being nothing more than an exploit, effectively. Using the system in a way that it wasn't intended. Is it by SE's statement? No clue. They don't seem to care about pvp, so until they clarify this is all up in the air.

Until they fix things, and have it so you don't have 20 min waits between matches, and expect people to continue to PvP while doing other content, people are very limited on what tricks they can pull out of their bags. As far as I know, it was not against SE to have continuous 4v4 of same people fight each other.

You should be banned or have your rank reset.
People who wintrade are the worst.

Why does the action of someone on another server that has NO impact on your personal skill and/or you getting gear matter. I don't like what you do, you should be banned because I said so... Why people don't worry about themselves getting to a goal of Pvp 40, T9, w/e, instead of looking at others and complaining is beyond me. Worry about yourself, before worrying about others. Dev's will do what Dev's do, there doesn't need to be people crying to the internet police.

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Originally Posted by Bazkoth

Why does the action of someone on another server that has NO impact on your personal skill and/or you getting gear matter. I don't like what you do, you should be banned because I said so...

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Ofcourse it affects people, they will have gear waaay before others and just win games because of that.
Basically you're saying cheating is fine. gg

So you're telling me if 4 people of an FC and another 4 people of an FC can not go back n forth killing each other to figure out who is better. How many times can they do this before it is "wintrading"? Once? Twice? How can regulate how many times each FC or group of friends can fight each other. Two FC's doing a friendly couple of matches and 8 people get banned. How will they regulate it? How will they know? Are they legit or botting? There is too many variables to sit there and say: Oh they went 4v4 ban them..

As long as they don't go trolling the regular queues with premade rank 40s like Mirth, Dusty etc.. used to do with 3x rank 30s against pve'rs , ... and then stream it.... I really don't care. Honestly I wish I could 4v4 and insta queue ( not wintrade) and pvp all day.

At this rate, this thread will end up turning into a flaming match. Let's just end it here and let people do what they want. If they get punished for it, that's their own fault. SE can read the forums at their leisure, let's see if they'll do anything about this situation.

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Originally Posted by x037x

As long as they don't go trolling the regular queues with premade rank 40s like Mirth, Dusty etc.. used to do with 3x rank 30s against pve'rs , I really don't care. Honestly I wish I could 4v4 and insta queue ( not wintrade) and pvp all day.

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Geez, yeah Aether datacenter had somethin' similar, on numerous occassions. Don't know those names in particular, but I'm sure it's the same situation everywhere.

Anymore, will just the proof of the forever wait times to PvP most of the people doing this is prolly doing it for vanity sake to put PvP gear glamored on their Raid gear. Atleast that's what I would do, if I had the drive to get higher then 20 =-P

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You should be banned or have your rank reset.
People who wintrade are the worst.

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While I decline to comment on queing with members of your server for 4v4 matches, I will say I wholeheartedly /welcome SE resetting my PVP Ranks. I absolutely loved grinding 1-30 (Pre exp buff and Ranged/Melee req changes) and would love to do it again.

I set a goal. I wanted rank 35 by Sunday. I ran 22 hours a day since patch to whoop the ass of that goal. My walls changed colors, I thought I saw smoke coming outta my keyboard, I had FC singalongs in teamspeak to pep me back up for more. It was a blast. Say what you want, you weren't there.

What if not everyone loves queing for 45 mins to get an af1 monk? They should prolly just quit the game right?

By the logic demonstrated here, we should prolly reset the myth and soldiery for every pt that has locked out the ochu and opo-opo before the first boss of Brayflox HM. I mean SE meant for those mobs to be killed, but you DIDN'T kill them. Rather you worked within the game's design to avoid having to kill them altogether. Why would you exploit the game's design in such a way? (HighpitchedStewievoice) Did you wanna save time? Maybe get that animus book that tiny bit faster? Maybe provide your character with better gear at a faster rate?(EndhighpitchedStewievoice)

... Just remember when you point your finger at me, there's three more pointing back at you :)

people sure like to bitch for things that have an easy solution

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Originally Posted by Varos

Geez, yeah Aether datacenter had somethin' similar, on numerous occassions. Don't know those names in particular, but I'm sure it's the same situation everywhere.

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Mirth, Dusty, Phazed, they were on Aether.. I'm on Aether. So you probably got facerolled by them too.

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Originally Posted by WahPaw

... Just remember when you point your finger at me, there's three more pointing back at you :)

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The three fingers of your mates that wintrade with you?
lol

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Originally Posted by Yotsu

The three fingers of your mates that wintrade with you?
lol

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lol, d(^o^)b

ITT: Anger and Yelling......and I'm just sitting here in a 28:30 minute queue

LOL you come to gloat on your "world first" r40 gear that you got through wintrading wow, just wow..

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Originally Posted by Bazkoth

Do I sense some jelly-monster that other people couldn't/didn't think of a way to level up, and put in the enormous amounts of hours upon hours to BE that world first. Even though it's not sitting in 20 minute waits, he did it. He put in the time. Don't think he doesn't have skill? Challenge him and fight him. If you win, you are right, if he kicks your butt, then I guess a real PvP bard who knows how to Pvp just leveled up his stuff so he can deal with raids, other in-game content, and real world stuff.

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Yeah either that or it means he wins because he has the best gear hmm...

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Originally Posted by WahPaw

By the logic demonstrated here, we should prolly reset the myth and soldiery for every pt that has locked out the ochu and opo-opo before the first boss of Brayflox HM. I mean SE meant for those mobs to be killed, but you DIDN'T kill them. Rather you worked within the game's design to avoid having to kill them altogether.

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Yeah and the mobs also stood there with crap gear and did nothing right? Oh wait-

I've no problem with the r40 guy, he used what was in game to get what he wanted so that's whatever.

But Bazkoth literally all 5 of your total forum posts are in here defending him. Are you trying to justify all that time you spent getting farmed by your FC mate?

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Yeah and the mobs also stood there with crap gear and did nothing right? Oh wait-

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to Mr. Pibz...... (wait wtf? lmfao)


s'why the matchmaker SHOULD match me with seven other people of similar rank. This however my friend is not the case. Like at all.......

PvE heros errwhere

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Originally Posted by WahPaw

to Mr. Pibz...... (wait wtf? lmfao)


s'why the matchmaker SHOULD match me with seven other people of similar rank. This however my friend is not the case. Like at all.......

PvE heros errwhere

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Just as a note you can do whatever you want, and i'm not mad at you nor do i care, but it'd be in good taste not to come in the forums and gloat about your wintrades, that's all

Hey man, I put an Asterisk....

haha nerd grats on making a big post saying what a filthy windtrader you are. You are just brimming with skill and intelligence arent you? Now go drink your glass of milk, school starts in half an hour kid.

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Originally Posted by Bazkoth

Do I sense some jelly-monster that other people couldn't/didn't think of a way to level up

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Wintrading has existed for ages... Its what the scrubs do to feel strong when they cant actually earn it. Though in their mind they are making mental loops convincing themselves it is earned.

Man I just wanna say, this is pretty damn pitiful that you're not doing anything with your life so that you can win trade to attempt to prove something to other people. This game does not have a competitive pvp system and you are foregoing school, job, family, and everything else in order to simply exploit it 24 hours a day. I've been playing video games for a long time and I've seen some pathetic stuff, but this trumps it all. Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing you for spending all day playing a video game. I played my share of 18 hour days when I grinded Grand marshal on WoW, but the grind on this game means nothing and is not even pvp. You're literally wasting your life to win trade and exploit a system that no one takes seriously.

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Originally Posted by Potatoes

Are you trying to justify all that time you spent getting farmed by your FC mate?

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Hmm, Funny, I don't PvP and do any of these accusations that you are pointing at me. I raid, I kill shit. I make money. Sitting around waiting a minimum of one minute per match x 5000 matches, your looking at a MINIMUM of 1.4 DAYS of just that 1 minute wait in the PvP arena. Ain't nobody got time for dat. I got gear that needs spiritbinded. I got ventures to do. I will defend people to allow them to do what they will, doesn't mean I take part in it. So before you state, so matter of fact, you know what I do on this game, check your facts.

And for the record... I love lamp FYI

Guys guys guys, we all know he has world's first win traded rank40 pvp gear set.
So technically that leaves world's first legit non win traded rank 40 pvp set up for grabs.
So there's still time/ chance to grab that title and when someone does, please make a thread so you can put this one to shame XD .

And then the two of them can Duel and see if it really and truly mattered all the complaining on this forum.

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Originally Posted by Bazkoth

And then the two of them can Duel and see if it really and truly mattered all the complaining on this forum.

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Yes and once they 1 vs 1 each other we will see who deserves the title of all the hulabalooo.
I smell an old king doran thing again.
:p

Pay Per View Sunday Sunday Sunday!

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Originally Posted by Bazkoth

Hmm, Funny, I don't PvP and do any of these accusations that you are pointing at me.

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Yet you'll defend him SO much that you may as well be up his anus with how badly you're sticking up for him. :l