Mage lb3 on leviathan

It has become the perception that you need to use lb3 for the second splumes on leviathan.

Pfs wait the extra time to find a mage.

However, i don't think it is needed. Actually i think it's bad to use lb3 on the splumes.
A. You can kill them without any lb.
B. Random party wipes due to splumes dying at same time.
C. can melee lb a splume or save it for last add or to execute leviathan himself.

It just makes things easier doing it this way. Done correctly, you'll knock out 1 plume and dmg at least 2 severly and the other partially. Everyone should be on the ball healing as well, or just delay popping them slightly. After that, you can use the lb 1 when it comes back up on the last mage add, if necessary.

It's not needed but has somehow become a norm, it's actually better to just kill then normally as you get less aoe damage from exploding spumes, save the LB either for the last caster add or for levi. The time needed to kill of all the spumes are the same for both sets anyway, if you have no problem killing the first set normally then you have no problem on the 2nd set.

I think most experienced DPS know not to burst all spumes asap after a mage LB3. You can allocate one or two DPS to stay on Leviathan whilst the others handle the remaining spumes.

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Originally Posted by NovaUltimatum

I think most experienced DPS know not to burst all spumes asap after a mage LB3. You can allocate one or two DPS to stay on Leviathan whilst the others handle the remaining spumes.

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And experience DPS will be able to take care of the spumes without mage LB3, it's really such a waste using LB3 on the spume, use it on the final caster add or levi itself is better, this way you can clear it even with 1 or 2 DPS down.

I've tried getting groups to not lb2-3 the spumes and everyone just throws a hissy fit.

Idk, wouldn't LB-ing that last big add be better anyways? Cause one missed stun and everyone's off the boat.

Not much different from the groups that think you need a mage LB on the titan-egi on Titan EM, it's a lazy crutch you absolutely do not need it.

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Originally Posted by Insidious

It just makes things easier doing it this way. Done correctly, you'll knock out 1 plume and dmg at least 2 severly and the other partially. Everyone should be on the ball healing as well, or just delay popping them slightly. After that, you can use the lb 1 when it comes back up on the last mage add, if necessary.

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but it's not easier. you don't need to be on the ball healing if you just kill them normallyl


I'm not just saying it isn't needed. I'm saying it's not ideal either.

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Originally Posted by Danbo05

Idk, wouldn't LB-ing that last big add be better anyways? Cause one missed stun and everyone's off the boat.

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Holmgang and Fluid Aura can also interrupt it.

We were pushing levithan into phases early the other week and would only get a Mage lb2 so it's very doable without the lb. Just makes it easier.

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Originally Posted by Undeadfire

Holmgang and Fluid Aura can also interrupt it.

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WHA~?~?~~~ splan dis.

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Originally Posted by Akirakogami

WHA~?~?~~~ splan dis.

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Any forced Knock backs or Draw ins can interrupt casting. Even Garuda Egis knock back move can interupt.

Using Meteor on Levi's head + tail + final caster add is the best use of it, period. Last phase has more wipe potential than second spume phase.

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Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez

Using Meteor on Levi's head + tail + final caster add is the best use of it, period. Last phase has more wipe potential than second spume phase.

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Totally agree, but sadly players are so use to using Mage LB on spumes that they would not accept any other strategy.

Who the hell still wipes to Levi EX?

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Originally Posted by Zuri

Who the hell still wipes to Levi EX?

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5/6 "farm" groups do, pretty sure.

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Originally Posted by Undeadfire

Any forced Knock backs or Draw ins can interrupt casting. Even Garuda Egis knock back move can interupt.

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This...this is interesting news.

There's more than one way to skin a cat. In the end it really doesn't matter that much if the group is competent.

The best way I've seen the spumes LB done is on the front 2 spumes plus the head and tail. LB damage is not reflected onto the mage so this works very well.

The big bonus to getting off your LB ASAP is that it'll make a single bar LB available at the end of the fight to smack Leviathan with.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

5/6 "farm" groups do, pretty sure.

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It wouldn't be a farm group without 7-8 wipes

"THE CHEESE TRIANGLES DON'T GO ON THAT WAY"

Is all this thread is.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

"THE CHEESE TRIANGLES DON'T GO ON THAT WAY"

Is all this thread is.

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Are you implying that triangles are how cheese is supposed to be cut? Every GOOD player knows that squares are much more effecient.

Almost always end up with at least 2 casters in PF groups anyway, it's not like I ever see any groups going out of their way to get them.

I like using LB3 on head/tail/front 2 spumes. Generally there's enough DPS in the groups I'm in to burn down the 2nd caster add without needing a LB.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

Almost always end up with at least 2 casters in PF groups anyway, it's not like I ever see any groups going out of their way to get them.

I like using LB3 on head/tail/front 2 spumes. Generally there's enough DPS in the groups I'm in to burn down the 2nd caster add without needing a LB.

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well thats interesting but on our server casters are rare and parties sit in pf for hours looking for them specifically. it's very silly.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

Almost always end up with at least 2 casters in PF groups anyway, it's not like I ever see any groups going out of their way to get them.

I like using LB3 on head/tail/front 2 spumes. Generally there's enough DPS in the groups I'm in to burn down the 2nd caster add without needing a LB.

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You can hit all of them with LB3

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Originally Posted by Akirakogami

well thats interesting but on our server casters are rare and parties sit in pf for hours looking for them specifically. it's very silly.

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That's the problem when players follow a guide blindly instead of working out a solution. Me and my friend form a pf for levi farming and only realize we don't have any caster in the group, they wanted to go out so someone can change class, I told them no, we go with this, just kill the 2nd set of spumes 1 by 1, use LB on caster add or levi. 2 smooth runs, easy as pie.

Most DPS don't know how to hold back (have to show off those huge numbers, after all), so double Tidal Roar + double or triple spumes popping at the same time = fun times.

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Originally Posted by Undeadfire

Any forced Knock backs or Draw ins can interrupt casting. Even Garuda Egis knock back move can interupt.

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Nope, I tried it with Garuda. It still goes through.

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Originally Posted by paradigmfellow

Nope, I tried it with Garuda. It still goes through.

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What if I tell you that I also tried with Garuda and it interrupts. The delay on Garuda actually casting it might be why you failed. Also, it can start casting again right after knockback.

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Originally Posted by paradigmfellow

I did it with enough time and the cast bar still filled up.

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Did you make sure Garuda actually knock back the mage add? Was it too close to the edge of the boat perhaps? I've never failed to use Shockwave on that add.

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Originally Posted by Lemon8or

What if I tell you that I also tried with Garuda and it interrupts. The delay on Garuda actually casting it might be why you failed. Also, it can start casting again right after knockback.

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I did it with enough time and the cast bar still filled up.

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Originally Posted by paradigmfellow

I did it with enough time and the cast bar still filled up.

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Yeah, no. It works just fine. You did something wrong.

...Huh? Wait, are you telling me there's a wrong time to use Meteor?

This goes against every belief I've come to hold while playing XIV. The best time of the day is Meteor Time, you're crazy.

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Originally Posted by Darske

...Huh? Wait, are you telling me there's a wrong time to use Meteor?

This goes against every belief I've come to hold while playing XIV. The best time of the day is Meteor Time, you're crazy.

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Go to previous page, and you'll see what Miakis means. Isn't about the Mage LB3.

My only problem with caster LB3 is the visual effect. If you don't time it right, you may end up covering where the waterspout pops up. Other than that, it's the preferred method as it's easier to get the splumes out of the way in a timely manner.