Glamour Opinions

I know, I know, I can just go check out the other threads, but I need to get statements people would like exposed to the reading public.

So, I do want to ask: What do you all think about the Glamour System? Anything you'd like to change? Hate it?

Love it?

Please note that some or all responses will be used in an upcoming article for Gamer Escape.

Mostly it's fine. I just don't think each crafting class needs 4 tiers of glamour prism. Makes things needlessly complicated.

The glamour system is awesome. A little confusing at first, but once you get the hang of it, it's great. :)

My only complaint is if you have to cast the glamour all over again if you want to dye a different color.

I like the glamour but I hate that some nice outfits are restricted from DoM but a DoW can wear both. The only problem I have with it because I've seen so many pieces I wanted for my WHM. :<

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Originally Posted by Black91CRX

My only complaint is if you have to cast the glamour all over again if you want to dye a different color.

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No you don't have to glamour again to dye. Just dye your glamoured piece if it can be dyed.

I can't stand it honestly. If there were restrictions in place to keep Bikini's and the like out of it I think I'd be okay with it. As it is I feel like I log into a virtual strip club every day.

Actually, a setting to hide all Glamours would be probably be best. If someone wants to run around in a bikini 24/7 they should be able to, but I shouldn't be forced to see it.

The only big issue I have with the Glamour System is that pieces of armor that take up both Head slot/Body slot can only be glamoured for the body slot, leaving the head exposed and un-glamourable. The same thing with Leg + Feet slot armors. You can only glamour the Leg slot, leaving the feet bare looking.

Otherwise, I love it! I can run around in my bathing suit looking like a beefy stud, yet retain all my stats <3

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Originally Posted by Ferth

Mostly it's fine. I just don't think each crafting class needs 4 tiers of glamour prism. Makes things needlessly complicated.

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yeah, especially since all 5 tiers of glamour prisms cost the same to make. Ie, the grade 1 clear prisms cost the same and the grade 5, and all prisms used the same mats. if their all identical in value it seems pretty nonsense to have 5 grades of prisms. Should be just one per craft.

Wish we could glamour some of the crafting/gathering specific clothes. That alchemist robe looks awesome, and I'd love to go fight titan with my miner AF or even levi with a fisher AF =P

I like the glamor system... it just pains me greatly that the tiny handful of glamor-specific recipes we got required items which are only gained in special events like treasure hunts or ventures. And that many of them are 3-star recipes. Seriously SE, if a level 30 weaver can craft a tunic which makes you stronger, more dextrous and keen-eyed then I think crafting a dress would be easy by comparison.

What I really want are more items intended purely for glamor which are designed for lower level crafters, so that people can enjoy their benefits without having to be a master at every craft. It needs to be more open to entice people to craft, or at the very least to make these glamor items more accessible to people. Save the nicest outfits for the 3-star recipes by all means, but I dearly want to see them put a bit more thought into the concept.

...and this is from a dedicated weaver who already has all her crafts at 50 and her master book.

I agree with the comments about the tiered prisms. There should just be clear prisms (no grade) that you can use to make leatherworker prisms, weaver prisms, etc. Since the mats/price are the same for each grade, having the grades at all is pointless and frustrating. I'd like to be able to carry many prisms with me wherever I go, but I end up having to waste additional inventory slots in order to cover all the level ranges.

Also, it's silly that the system isn't compatible with gear that takes up more than one slot. For example, the Odin gear and the Reindeer suit can't really be used, which seems ridiculous since they're obviously vanity gear.

I think the glamour should be more option in what gear a person can wear, any job should be able to glamour any item as long it it not a jobs AF gear or having a whm walking around in tin can tank armor. Like Acolyte's Skirt or Foestriker's Skirt for example should be able to be glamour regardless whether it DoW or DoM or DoL.

I like it a lot & I'm looking forward to more variety of source patterns. I've been running around with the sailor outfit glamoured to my armor.

I have only two issues with the glamour system: 1) The glamours being tied to gear and not gearset. It's a pain to update glamour if you are switching between gear. I'd really wish they'd change it.

2) They should have implemented glamour items similarly to how they implemented furniture. i.e having special vanity mats drop from dungeons/etc. I'd like a lot more variety in vanity sets.

My only other issues with vanity is the dye system and how we can't dye multiple parts of outfits and thus have to hunt down specific items hoping one exist with the color you want (and in some cases like Acton for caster hoping another exists that equippable by your class).

I just wish we could glamour DoH and DoL gear to DoW/M. As long as you have those classes leveled that is. How awesome would it be to have a Black Mage in an alchemist coat or a Paladin with an Armorer's visor?

edit: and yes, remove the "Grades" from the prisms. So pointless and messy.

I like the concept, but the execution is sloppy and bloated. There's no reason at all to require several tiers of prisms. There could have been -- like spreading out the recipes to be available at different levels instead of all at 30 and all essentially the same recipe, but the way it's implemented serves only to dilute the profitability of crafting any particular prism and clog up people's inventories (or encourage players not to keep materials on hand). Better, more intuitive and user friendly systems not only exist in other games, but are more obvious than what they created here. As many have said, simply giving players separate glamour equipment slots (even slots that consume a prism every time you swap gear out) would have been easier to work with and had fewer limitations than we currently have to deal with.

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Originally Posted by Takeva

I like the glamour but I hate that some nice outfits are restricted from DoM but a DoW can wear both. The only problem I have with it because I've seen so many pieces I wanted for my WHM. :<



No you don't have to glamour again to dye. Just dye your glamoured piece if it can be dyed.

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Most BIS gear cannot be dyed. Example. I equip bards shirt. Glamour cotton shirt to it. Then, if I decide to dye cotton shirt, it stays the original color rather than the newly dyed color. Which is dumb since the actual cotton shirt in my inventory is the newly dyed color.

I love it~! My only issue is that the DoM options are extremely limited and repetitive. I also wish more glamour recipes would be added to crafting..

I love the glamour system. Pre-patch I thought it was going to be something I didn't give a **** about, but I use it a lot. The grade system actually benefits crafters. It is a lot harder for prisms to get undercut to hell when there are large varieties of them.

The tiered prisms only works if could create the tiered prisms by that level otherwise there no point have tiered clear prisms if only a lvl 50 can create them.

The glamour tiers actually make a LOT of sense, it creates a better market. If it was just 1 instead of 5 for each class of item, the market prices would be much less stable. They'd be either too high or too low and probably keep around that. splitting it up allows more market opportunities and less flooding. With no tiers we're talking 5 times more merchants in each class of prism.

The clear prisms... yeah, no tier on them would be WAY better. I carry a full load of them and it's a hassle on my limited inventory space (I consider 5 slots open to be normal, 10 is a VERY spacious for me).

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Originally Posted by Cetra

I can't stand it honestly. If there were restrictions in place to keep Bikini's and the like out of it I think I'd be okay with it. As it is I feel like I log into a virtual strip club every day.

Actually, a setting to hide all Glamours would be probably be best. If someone wants to run around in a bikini 24/7 they should be able to, but I shouldn't be forced to see it.

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Bet you're just a barrel of laughs at parties.

I've made loadsamoni selling prisms for exorbitant prices so I'd say it's a great success.

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Originally Posted by Black91CRX

Most BIS gear cannot be dyed. Example. I equip bards shirt. Glamour cotton shirt to it. Then, if I decide to dye cotton shirt, it stays the original color rather than the newly dyed color. Which is dumb since the actual cotton shirt in my inventory is the newly dyed color.

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Actually, as long as the projected item can be dyed, you can easily dye the glamoured item without using another prism. Just bring up the item submenu on the glamoured base item. Dye should be an option -if- the projected item is dyeable. I use this to change the color of the projected Patrician's bottom that I use for several jobs and nearly all of the base items are undyeable tome items. Meanwhile I haven't had to dye the actual Patrician's bottom at all.

As for my own opinion of the system: Except for the class limitation on projected gear, I mostly love it. It's especially great for those in-between phases while farming better gear sets. You no longer have to look like you got dressed in the dark. Unless that's your kind of thing.

I only wish we could use any gear for vanity so long as it followed the slots occupied and ilvl rule. As mentioned the rule requiring the projected gear to be wearable by the job short changes DoM. And I would absolutely love to wear some of our crafting "AF" to fight bad guys in.

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Originally Posted by Xandim

Wish we could glamour some of the crafting/gathering specific clothes. That alchemist robe looks awesome, and I'd love to go fight titan with my miner AF or even levi with a fisher AF =P

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Only if we can also use paladin AF as armorer, I guess.
I think it would be much better if SE just bring some new crafted gear that look similar enough to be useable, but not exactly the same.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

I like the glamor system... it just pains me greatly that the tiny handful of glamor-specific recipes we got required items which are only gained in special events like treasure hunts or ventures. And that many of them are 3-star recipes. Seriously SE, if a level 30 weaver can craft a tunic which makes you stronger, more dextrous and keen-eyed then I think crafting a dress would be easy by comparison.

What I really want are more items intended purely for glamor which are designed for lower level crafters, so that people can enjoy their benefits without having to be a master at every craft. It needs to be more open to entice people to craft, or at the very least to make these glamor items more accessible to people. Save the nicest outfits for the 3-star recipes by all means, but I dearly want to see them put a bit more thought into the concept.

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SE please read this.

I think it does the job, but still feel disappointed that it wasn't more fleshed out and in line with the standard of other MMOs which have vanity systems/tabs.

They really need to fix the 4 slot/2 slot armour pieces, Odin, Chocobo suit, reindeer suit etc so we can actually use them.

My only problem is that you can glamour gear from another grand company.
I switched from twin adder to the maelstrom, got to max rank for the spear, officer gloves and legs, and glamoured them, switched back to twin adder and found out the glamour didn't stay.
And none of this was mentioned as a restriction, except that your class could equip it.

Other than that I am fine with it.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

I like the glamor system... it just pains me greatly that the tiny handful of glamor-specific recipes we got required items which are only gained in special events like treasure hunts or ventures. And that many of them are 3-star recipes. Seriously SE, if a level 30 weaver can craft a tunic which makes you stronger, more dextrous and keen-eyed then I think crafting a dress would be easy by comparison.

What I really want are more items intended purely for glamor which are designed for lower level crafters, so that people can enjoy their benefits without having to be a master at every craft. It needs to be more open to entice people to craft, or at the very least to make these glamor items more accessible to people. Save the nicest outfits for the 3-star recipes by all means, but I dearly want to see them put a bit more thought into the concept.

...and this is from a dedicated weaver who already has all her crafts at 50 and her master book.

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I think SE decide the recipe level after the look of the gear. The better it looks, the higher the needed recipe level. Or would you want to wear a dress that look like someone made it who just started to learn the craft (something made with hempen clothe)?

I'm glad to have SOME form of a vanity system, but I'm not fond of it. It should have just been a separate vanity tab where you put the look you want to have on, and then you always have that look, regardless of armor changes.

Aside from the aforementioned tiered system, and the fact that the creating them and using them are not mirrored in requirements (same recipe seems odd to me), I really think the class restrictions is ridiculous.

Lore-wise: I am a savior of the realm, have proven worthy of the drachen mail, and have been granted garbs imbued with the power of the departed A-Towa-Cant...
But all that's out the window because I put on a pair of knuckledusters. Seriously?

If your character can equip it then your character should be able to glamour it.

A setting to allow a user to not see everyone else's glamours would be nice as well, for those that would be turned off by a DRG in MNK robes.

I am glad that they did put the glamor system in, but I am a firm believer that it should have just been an extra tab on your character sheet that you drag and drop items on. This would have prevented a lot of issues with the current system like the multi-slot items as well as allowed for extra customizations like hiding your gloves.

I would like to see some of the class restrictions lifted, or loosened to something along the lines of "If you can equip on any of your classes."

Like others have said, the grades is just overly complex and cumbersome. I shouldn't have to make a shopping list to glamor a set.

I kind of wish they were more lenient about which classes you can glamour onto. I kind of want the ALC coat for my WHM q.q

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Originally Posted by Cetra

I can't stand it honestly. If there were restrictions in place to keep Bikini's and the like out of it I think I'd be okay with it. As it is I feel like I log into a virtual strip club every day.

Actually, a setting to hide all Glamours would be probably be best. If someone wants to run around in a bikini 24/7 they should be able to, but I shouldn't be forced to see it.

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I believe the virtual strip club comes in patch 2.4 as an add on to the gold saucer. You know, to further corrupt your soul.

I hate the class/job restrictions and the ilvl restrictions - otherwise, it's a decent (if overly complicated) system. But seriously, if I've leveled up and earned the gear once, I should be able to make use of it in glamours on any other jobs, regardless of level/type. I earned the gear. Let me use it how I please.

I love it so much! Sometimes I ran things like Main scenario with the Acolyte's gear cause I wanted to look like a pirate. But well... I wasn't very effective in the dungeon. So the glamour system let's me look how I want to look and it's perfect for me.

I mean, the white mage ilvl 100 looks awful
http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...184fc5dd16.jpg

So instead I can wear cute gear like this
http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...f83e44d0b4.jpg

I like the glamour system, but find some of the restrictions frustrating. In particular the recent decision to now make it possible to dye the very much obsolete Darklight Cowls, but to not also make it possible to Glamour them over your current gear.

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Originally Posted by Rikkustrife

My only problem is that you can glamour gear from another grand company.
I switched from twin adder to the maelstrom, got to max rank for the spear, officer gloves and legs, and glamoured them, switched back to twin adder and found out the glamour didn't stay.
And none of this was mentioned as a restriction, except that your class could equip it.

Other than that I am fine with it.

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You can't glamour gear that your character cannot wear, the same as if you are a Blm and can't glamour Pld armor. If you are in one GC you -cannot- use another GC's armor/weapons, so you can't glamour them either.

I figured that was common sense.

I've gotta echo the whole needless Teir system, like others have said especially becuase all the recipes are the same. or at least if you're going to make it teired, don't make them all lvl 50 crafts.

and some of the restrictions. I understand not wanting Healers that look like Tanks, etc...but seriously some stuff would be woderful and I got rid of all my dated gear a long time ago (before 1.0 ended as I thought it was going to be deleted but then I guess you could say that was my own fault)

otherwise no real complaints

Love it, but I'd reeeally love more gear that's purely cosmetic. More of the level 1 only-good-for-glamour style things in the vein of the Spring Dress and Glacial Coat and Taffeta Shawl. ESPECIALLY entirely new things; why can't we just have an update where most/all of the recipe are cosmetic, and not so hellishly difficult to get the materials for? The whole reason I started my crafting with weaver was to make outfits, but it feels so limited right now, with most gear being slight recolors/styles of older gear.