Reworking freecure and overcure

Hey there!

As a healer, I usually don't like having rng abilities. Since freecure and overcure are entirely rng, I would like to bring forth this suggestion to change them.

Instead of having a chance for freecure to proc with every cure, change it to this. Every time cure is used, it gives a stack of freecure. Each stack reduced the cost of the next cure2 by 20% and we can stack up to 5 stacks. (100% at max stack)

Same for overcure. Each cure2 used gives a stack of overcure. Each stack of overcure reduces the cost of the next cure3 by 10% to a maximum of 5 stacks. (50% at max stack)

This change will also reduce wastage of freecure and overcure since we just need to use cure or cure 2 to refresh the timing of freecure and overcure respectively.

What do you think?

I think freecure is fine. We use Cure 1 so often that a 15% chance to proc will come up fairly reliably over a large number of casts, and a free high potency cure is always useful.

Overcure could use a look. The proc isn't strong enough to favor cure 3 over cure 2 in most situations, which defeats the idea of the proc encouraging WHM to cast it.

Then again, not every trait needs to be fantastic.

I think cures are fine as is. That being said, this isn't a bad idea either

I kind of wish Overcure would proc on something else other than cure 2.

Like regen or cure 1. It just doesn't really flow well as it is. Cure 1 to free cure 2 make lots of sense as they do the same thing. Cure 2 to cure 3 doesn't because they have very different usages and Cure2 is already a semi-sparingly sort of thing.

With Robin, I also agree that I feel Overcure would be nice if it proc'd off Regen. Personally I think it'd be cool if it went off Regen ticks. Sure, this means you could Regen a lot of targets and proc it often, but then you'd have your own hate levels to contend with if you're Regen'ing that many targets and fire off Overcure'd Cure III's every time its up.

I've felt with overcure as it is, it should give some kind of bonus to it, like aoe temp stoneskin or something along that line. I don't mind free cure too much, but anything to improve overcure would be cool.

I think the only change Overcure should get is to remove the duration, letting you hold onto it like Firestarter. Especially since Cure 3 is already not casted much at all.

Just gives some visual effect indicating it is free also good.

the situations where you use cure3 within 15sec after using cure2 are just too sparse
when i see +Overcure pop up i'm just like "damn, why couldnt you be another +Freecure instead"
45 sec timer would be enough that you might find a decent spot to cure3

I use Cure III when melle dps and tank are both taking regular damage.

Overcure is rarely proced because Cure I is the most efficient healing spell and Cure II should be avoided for regular healing.

My issue is that; if I'm using Cure II, I won't have time to consider healing anyone else except for the tank, that potency drop can cause tank death, and isn't worth keeping melle alive.

I suggest that; overcure proc increases the potency on primary target by 120%(Or same potency as Cure II) while keeping the same potency for the aoe heal. All at the reduced mana cost of course.

I personally like how everything is right now for WHM (except for Benediction, which we already have a lot of requests to change for that). It's not like you can't use Cure II and Cure III right now freely, it will just cost you more MP without the free one; so your RNG issue isn't really an issue really. I have been healing for a very long time and I rarely run into problem with MP in this game, especially if you use Saint of Shroud wisely.

I think the rng for free cure and overcure are just fine as they are. However, I do see the appeal of stacks, however that is overpowered for our job. Essentially all of these procs for us are shoehorned abilities to combo when nothing is really needing them. There is never a situation where you HAVE to have a freecure or overcure proc, so in this situation, those are icing on the cake that allow you to conserve mp on a class that has issues with mp in some content, so having it be a chance is handy. Though I do feel bad, I tend to not use either proc because they tend to proc at times that I just can't use them and over curing tends to be a bad thing to utilize.