Atma of the Crab

i have 9 Atmas so far and have been trying to get this one for 3 days now 4 hours a day, can anyone give me some advice on this atma. I just feel like i am doing something wrong for it to take this long to get

EDIT: ok so i went and got the other ones I needed pretty fast and came back to crab tried it at 12 like the guide said and no luck got on the next day (which is today) and got it at 7:18 pm ^.^ from that FATE with the Aurochs.

it's random i had 5 of these before my gf had even 1 she even kicked me out eventually xD

keep on pluggin away at it. It'll happen eventualy

The only advice I could give is hit up a fate off and on while doing dailies. I was fortunate in getting mine after 2 days, but I farmed a lot of Fates. If you're looking to full-on farm it I'd stick with the ones in the Sahagin area. They spawn regularly and in a relatively small area.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...arming_theory/

Ever since following this, I have not had to grind more than an hour for an atma.

I struggled with this one too - 36 coral armbands in my inventory when it finally dropped. Not sure how many hours in total, as I kept just jumping into fates when doing dailies, and then spent a few hours there.
7 left to go for me... xD

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Originally Posted by Murakamo

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...arming_theory/

Ever since following this, I have not had to grind more than an hour for an atma.

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Lmao. I love when people try to make sense and find ways to 'beat' RNG. First of all, if there was a set practice it would work for everyone, not just a few people who post on reddit. I say a few people because all the rest of non-posters are still farming their atma's. My buddy was convinced this Japanese theory would work, and he still hasn't gotten a drop in 2 days. Stay at home dad so he can play whenever he wants.

This theory says that you are capped at 4 atma's every 12 hours. Explain how I got my atma weapon within 2 days of 2.2 patch releasing? I got 8 of them in one day, the remaining 4 the next day.

Don't get me wrong, I am happy you were able to get your atma pops....but they didn't happen because of some crack-pot theory, regardless if the times coincided with those stated or not.

People are just blowing smoke up each other's you-know-what. There is no rhyme or reason to atma drops. If you hit the Atma lottery at that specific FATE, you get your atma, simple as that. The only way you could ever hope to increase your odds at getting an Atma is if you could trick the game into thinking your character is two seperate entities and you get two rolls on it per every finished FATE.

Another friend of mine is convinced that if you take the right-hand route through ADS nodes in turn 2 then the chests drop caster items...

OP: The best advice I have heard anyone give, is if you are getting burnt out with trying for your current atma, just stop hunting the atma and do something else in-game for a little while until you cool off. It gets frustrating for people when they hear of others getting theirs quick when you are stuck. Go farm some myth tomes and come back to it, trust me you will need a lot of those.

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Originally Posted by JayCommon

Lmao. I love when people try to make sense and find ways to 'beat' RNG......

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This this and this. People just want to find patterns or make sense of it. It's just RNG.

Crab is awful since some of the FATES on the sahagin side of the map when scaled have tons of HP like Sharknado if there are a lot of people takes like 5 minutes to kill him. The other sahagin ones have tons of adds when scaled then a boss. Try to clear some on the low level east side of the map which finish in less than a minute or two.

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

This this and this. People just want to find patterns or make sense of it. It's just RNG.

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B-but if you take away our tinfoil hats what will we have left?! Certainly not atmas...!

Joking aside, you may think you have terrible luck OP but I am STILL @ 2. I've put it off for the moment to do extremes. I only do fates for the most part during beasts.

Isle of Umbra counts as well. I did mine there on the skeleton & mantis fates.

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Originally Posted by stanrir

i have 9 Atmas so far and have been trying to get this one for 3 days now 4 hours a day, can anyone give me some advice on this atma. I just feel like i am doing something wrong for it to take this long to get

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Yeeaa, shove it. I have near 30 hours in to Atma grinding and I have....................... ZERO.

System is broken.

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Originally Posted by JayCommon

Lmao. I love when people try to make sense and find ways to 'beat' RNG. First of all, if there was a set practice it would work for everyone, not just a few people who post on reddit. I say a few people because all the rest of non-posters are still farming their atma's. My buddy was convinced this Japanese theory would work, and he still hasn't gotten a drop in 2 days. Stay at home dad so he can play whenever he wants.

This theory says that you are capped at 4 atma's every 12 hours. Explain how I got my atma weapon within 2 days of 2.2 patch releasing? I got 8 of them in one day, the remaining 4 the next day.

Another friend of mine is convinced that if you take the right-hand route through ADS nodes in turn 2 then the chests drop caster items...

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You clearly don't read very well. The OP of that page suggested its possible that you are capped at 4 every 12 hours. Implying that it is not proven. In fact NONE of this is proven. It is as you say, a theory. A theory that is working for people who try it.


I tried it, got several of my friends to try it too and they all got their atmas very shortly after following it. NOTHING can be proven about how the drops work unless a dev comes out and states it (as they are the only ones that know how it works).

Plus, if OP is getting frustrated, might as well give it a shot. Can't hurt, can it?

Also, who said the whole thing was RNG? It is very possible that SE didn't design it entirely to be RNG.

I got a friend who got 5 in six hours. I think the cap part is false.

6 of my friends wore there underwear on their fists while back-flipping as Bard's and got their Atma's to drop as long as the hour of the day coincided with the blood moon's eclipse last night.

I don't read very well, but I promise I saw that this worked for at least 4.4 people. The .4 was a Lala.

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Originally Posted by Murakamo

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...arming_theory/

Ever since following this, I have not had to grind more than an hour for an atma.

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I can confirm that the times in that forum post for each atma do work but it goes by JST not NA or BST

tried it my self and worked perfectly. Got my friends in the USA to try it to in my fc and it worked them.

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Originally Posted by Murakamo

I tried it, got several of my friends to try it too and they all got their atmas very shortly after following it. NOTHING can be proven about how the drops work unless a dev comes out and states it (as they are the only ones that know how it works).

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False it doesn't take the devs to do that. I had a couple of friends get more than 4 in a 12 hour period. I can disprove, without dev support, that part of the theory outright. With a large enough sample size even we players could prove the "improved drop rate" part as well.

Spent 19 hours on crab before I tried that reddit link about a week back, got it within the hour, and then proceeded to get every other ATMA I went after during the suggested time within the hour.

Not saying it's true, but as long as you're grinding for them anyway you may as well try it, not gonna hurt.

So if there is any truth in this, then right now it's atma of the bull?

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Originally Posted by blacksheepwall

So if there is any truth in this, then right now it's atma of the bull?

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Yes, 4:00 EST is 5:00 JST (this is how it would be for me)

Most say they have luck doing it at JST time rather than their own local time zone. It's conflicting and I am likend to believe this is a placebo.

Regardless it gets people feeling more positive with hope that there will be better returns, much like one with a dibilitating illness improving not by medicine but by changing the manner with which they think.

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Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear

Yes, 4:00 EST is 5:00 JST (this is how it would be for me)

Most say they have luck doing it at JST time rather than their own local time zone. It's conflicting and I am likend to believe this is a placebo.

Regardless it gets people feeling more positive with hope that there will be better returns, much like one with a dibilitating illness improving not by medicine but by changing the manner with which they think.

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Yea I've all ready got Bull and 6:00 -7:00 JST is Ram Which i have so i'm just waiting for it to turn 7:00 in japan so i can get Twins.

the more threads like this i read the more i'm glad to not having started this crap.

Cheers. It did actually make it go by a little fast and I had more enthusiasm but ultimately I got nothing more than a few imp wings.

I got to the next zone, killed some level 2 sheep before questioning my sanity in doing this with my free time and turned it off.

Sad thing is, the only two Atmas I have are from western... I didn't actually try to farm it, just wanted some seals from the FATE and the daily item that drops. 2 crab atmas, for no reason.

Having completed two atma weapons, my conclusion is that the drops are luck based. Some times I get two different atmas back to back and some atmas, such as archer atma took 6 days to drop for each weapon! I had luck on my side for the crab atma and it dropped within 4-6 fates for both weapons. My advice is to farm for about 30 minutes or 10 fates in one area. If it doesn't drop, then go farm another area or do something else for a while and come back (I queued df roulette while farming).

Took me 8 days to get Atma of the Bull, keep at it, an hour a day or something.

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Originally Posted by JayCommon

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I actually went to try that out lol Got like 3 off ~5 fates in each zone, then it went back to crap of nothing for days :/ It better not be like North Shroud again, I was stuck there for almost 6 days, grinding the majority of the day and nothing.

Even though its random, I still feel like complaining how much bs it is >.> I started the grind 2 days before anyone in my FC (on 2.2 release) and I'm only 6/12. One of them got most of theirs within a week, the other went up from 1/12 to all 12 within 2 days -.- With this crap, I don't even feel like doing my other jobs lol They'll just have to deal with +1 relic

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

False it doesn't take the devs to do that. I had a couple of friends get more than 4 in a 12 hour period. I can disprove, without dev support, that part of the theory outright. With a large enough sample size even we players could prove the "improved drop rate" part as well.

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Well, I guess that part you can easily disprove. But because you can also get atmas outside the timezones, I dont think anyone will be truly able to prove the theory.

4 atmas in 15 minutes, 6 total over 2h.

Arr. En. Gee.

I spent almost 9 hours trying to get Scorpion :/

Twice I got 3 different atmas in about an hour of farming, and right now I'm at 19 hours total of farming for the Atma of the Bull and still no luck. As far as I'm concerned, that theory is 100% cow manure.