Featherfoot II - The Troll Ability?

While I understand that careful balance considerations must be made when determining the power of an ability, Featherfoot II is about as exciting as getting no ability at all at rank 42.

Featherfoot II contains the same amount of evades as Featherfoot I (one evade), has the exact same cooldown, costs the same amount of stamina, and seemingly gives the same amount chance to evade. Even if the evade chance IS higher, it's pointless because Featherfoot I already gives you the evade before the time expires 98% of the time (unless the enemy is casting).

Please give this ability some purpose besides being a clone of an ability we already had. This could easily be accomplished by taking some time off its cooldown or making it so we can evade twice instead of once.

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Wholeheartedly agree. Got Featherfoot II recently and have seen no difference whatsoever to Featherfoot I. Would be great if it had smaller cooldown or allowed two evades, kudos for those suggestions.

You should notice the difference when fighting tougher mobs.
The chance to evade is much higher.
If you solo or duo you probably won't fight mobs tough enough to notice.
In larger parties, and when fighting world nms, the difference becomes night and day.

Yea, and another reason it's divided into Tiers is because other people who have not leveled PUG as high dont have access to the t2 featherfoot, only the t1 and therefore dont value the ability quite as much.

That said.... it's a rather lame feeling when you learn it, not a very stimulating addition to your skills.

Featherfoot 2 has a significantly higher evasion chance. Usually I evade almost everything with it.

I dunno what you have been testing it on but Featherfoot 1 is like 75% chance evade and Featherfoot 2 is like 95 -97% chance to evade

But I do agree about giving us something more unique instead of just the same skill over again

I personaly feel it upped my evades quite abit, if you are fighting leve mobs maybe its not that noticable but against a NM im sure it would be.

With Feather FI i always evaded an attack before the timer ran out. Feather FII i always evaded an attack before the timer ran out. So i don't see any reason their different. FFII should evade 2 attacks for PUG only. You could even have it Evade one physical attack and one Magic attack. That would give some uniqueness to the class. But wait people will start complaining no not another Blink tank. but hay I'm OK with that. So far their isn't an action that can Evade a magic attack and i think this would be a great addition to the job.

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Originally Posted by Frebaut

With Feather FI i always evaded an attack before the timer ran out. Feather FII i always evaded an attack before the timer ran out. So i don't see any reason their different. FFII should evade 2 attacks for PUG only. You could even have it Evade one physical attack and one Magic attack. That would give some uniqueness to the class. But wait people will start complaining no not another Blink tank. but hay I'm OK with that. So far their isn't an action that can Evade a magic attack and i think this would be a great addition to the job.

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That's exactly what I'm trying to say. It doesn't matter which has a higher chance to evade because you both only get one evade, and it's never a problem getting that one evade before the timer runs out. So what if it takes the enemy 1 swing instead of 2? The outcome of both abilities is still the same.

Pon ya as you can see i agree with you and they really need to make the tier II action do something better then the first. As of right now theirs not much of a difference if any.. Not sure why SE would just add a 2nd tier that doesn't do anything.

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Originally Posted by Valen

Wholeheartedly agree. Got Featherfoot II recently and have seen no difference whatsoever to Featherfoot I. Would be great if it had smaller cooldown or allowed two evades, kudos for those suggestions.

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I agree with this. I think it should offer something a little more other than a higher eva percentage. A smaller cooldown might be too much (unless its something like 5 seconds less)but I like the idea of "two" shadows but this could be a bit OP because you could put on concussive blow and jarring strike and have a field day all day long.

You use Featherfoot II and the Mar spell that does the same thing but parry version and you get 100% hate i test this on many guild leves and it work 90% of the time. awesome way to get hate off your mage real quick lol

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Originally Posted by Pon_Patapon

That's exactly what I'm trying to say. It doesn't matter which has a higher chance to evade because you both only get one evade, and it's never a problem getting that one evade before the timer runs out. So what if it takes the enemy 1 swing instead of 2? The outcome of both abilities is still the same.

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Peiste NM is a good place to see why, when your dpsing and you need to evade that AOE, you don't want to be thinking, well i'll just evade the next one, which might not even come in that 30 sec window (^_~)

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Originally Posted by Akuun

Peiste NM is a good place to see why, when your dpsing and you need to evade that AOE, you don't want to be thinking, well i'll just evade the next one, which might not even come in that 30 sec window (^_~)

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Actually I've killed the Peiste NM a dozen times, and I know that the AOE is rarely avoidable, even with FeatherFoot II. I only evade it about 25% of the time it's occurred with FFII up. So your argument makes no sense. It's still an unpredictable chance to evade within the duration of the ability regardless of what your chance is. Even with FFII, you can't guarantee when you're going to evade. So how does that make it all that much better than FFI?

THey need to add another effect to FFII, change the timer or both. hell i'm ok with 2 evades and have the timer at 45 seconds. I just want it better then FF. I always evade an att with either tier the recast time is the same so they need to add something to FFII and make it a PUG only spell. Hell all Tier2 action should be Class only actions.

I agree having a bit more bonus from FF1 to FF2 would be nice.

Getting two shadows would be so awesome!!! And give this class a real chance at tanking. Makes sense. Featherfoot II, two evades. Are you listening Square Enix?!?! Please make this change.

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Originally Posted by Pon_Patapon

Actually I've killed the Peiste NM a dozen times, and I know that the AOE is rarely avoidable, even with FeatherFoot II. I only evade it about 25% of the time it's occurred with FFII up. So your argument makes no sense. It's still an unpredictable chance to evade within the duration of the ability regardless of what your chance is. Even with FFII, you can't guarantee when you're going to evade. So how does that make it all that much better than FFI?

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Maybe I just have better gear and stats for evading it, but FFI doesn't evade it as much.
Your continued argument really doesn't make sense., if your chance to evade is higher how is it better, how is it not?

Spamming between them I believe is the main purpose of having them. Like having two Feather Foot abilities, you can just keep bouncing between them when not using other abilities and/or cures.

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Originally Posted by KorPoni

Spamming between them I believe is the main purpose of having them. Like having two Feather Foot abilities, you can just keep bouncing between them when not using other abilities and/or cures.

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Both share the same cool down as with all the I & II actions

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Originally Posted by Akuun

Both share the same cool down as with all the I & II actions

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That's not what he meant. Having two feather foots lets you have more evade, one of them giving you even more evade of course. Use one and the other one is still available. By the time you use the 2nd one the first one should be at a lower CD if you are the one taking hits. I think it's better to have 2 evaded hits instead of 1 in a period of 30 seconds.

Also, FFI only has like a 75% evasion rate on most regular monsters. That and I went somewhat eva build on my pug.

I don't think you understand Dawiichan. If you have FFI and FFII set, when you use either abilitiy the other will share the cooldown. Niether one can be used any sooner by setting them both.

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I think it's better to have 2 evaded hits instead of 1 in a period of 30 seconds.

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It's not better that way cause then you'd have to spend 2 slots and more points to set both of them.
I like these moves better as one (sharing the same cooldown etc) but the II version of any ability should be noticably better than the other and having 2 evades in featherfoot 2 only seems more logical than having 5% more evade...