Needs Better Gear Comparison

I find it annoying that, when I look at a piece of gear, it only shows the difference of stats with defense or attack. That's not entirely helpful, especially when I have to keep going back and forth, looking at number of materia slots or the stat bonuses.

It would be nice that, when I mouse over the gear, that it would include a window that shows what I have equipped right beside it. A simple and easy way to compare the items, which I do all the time and have to finagle around way too much.

I really hope this gets implemented soon.

I totally agree that this would be nice. Right now I usually go to XIVDB.com and look up the items for easier comparison.

I would even go so far as request a window that displays +/- values instead of currently equipped. ie.

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New shiny  |  Stat changes | Old Gear
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25 DPS    |  +2 DPS      |  23 DPS
+12 int    |  -5 int      |  +17 int
+10 vit    |  +2 vit      |  +8 vit
+10 det    |  +0 det      |  +10 det
+15 crit  |  +15 crit    |  +0 crit
+0 acc    |  -10 acc      |  +10 acc

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Originally Posted by sanosuke001

I would even go so far as request a window that displays +/- values instead of currently equipped.

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That would be a better match to what we (partially) have now. Just like it already shows +/- numbers for the top-line information (damage for weapons, defense for armor), extend that to the stat modifiers and materia sections of the tooltip.

The only obvious complication in that is that it can add a few extra lines to the description. For instance, in your example above, the "New shiny" which doesn't have any Accuracy modifier would need to be able to show "+0 Accuracy (-10)" during the comparison, even though it normally doesn't show an Accuracy line at all. Since the basic tooltip template is clearly expandable to accommodate a wide variety of items already, it's unlikely that expanding it a little further would be an insurmountable problem.

If it turns out that that's more complicated than it looks, though, simply showing us both tooltips side-by-side would be a lot better than what we have now.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hello,

I have yet another helping of UI comments from lead Hiroshi Minagawa to share with you all.

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  It's really hard to compare the stats of equipment I'm wearing and other equipment. Can you please make it so we can see the stats of both?

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  Yes, we will be adding this feature.
  We'd like to implement this in patch 2.1, but there is a possibility that it will be pushed to patch 2.2.
  
  With the item sort feature that will be implemented in patch 2.1, it will be much easier than now to compare the item details, so there is a possibility that we prioritize other features first.

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Guess it got pushed back even more.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

That would be a better match to what we (partially) have now. Just like it already shows +/- numbers for the top-line information (damage for weapons, defense for armor), extend that to the stat modifiers and materia sections of the tooltip.

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If it turns out that that's more complicated than it looks, though, simply showing us both tooltips side-by-side would be a lot better than what we have now.

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Yes, having both tooltips adjacent would be better than we have now but I proposed a second tooltip adjacent to the first with all the changes; not in-line in the original. Though, in-line would work, too, but it might be more trouble to do so as you pointed out.

Personally, I don't care how they do it. It is annoying to be mid-dungeon and have to look back and forth over and over again to decide which gear I want to use. Having the option to see SOME form of comparison would make things so much simpler.

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Originally Posted by Bixby

Guess it got pushed back even more.

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Funny that this comparison screen is just adding another one on the side of the first.. Don't even need to put + or - on the attributes.
Any mmo has this

Hello, everyone.

The implementation of an improved gear comparison feature has been pushed back to patch 2.3. Currently there are no details about this feature that we can share as of yet, but once the time draws closer we (or perhaps Minagawa!) will be sure to make a follow-up post. Apologies for the delay.

Bummer... but thanks for the heads up. I hope this means it'll ship with a Gear Previewer too. These are expected baseline features in MMO's today, and with the Dye Previewer, I can imagine you guys could piece together the tech really quickly.

A gear preview would be awesome, and we haven't received any confirmation on such feature.

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Originally Posted by Gesser

Bummer... but thanks for the heads up. I hope this means it'll ship with a Gear Previewer too. These are expected baseline features in MMO's today, and with the Dye Previewer, I can imagine you guys could piece together the tech really quickly.

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BTW, I noticed the dye previewer has been implemented now. Thank goodness ^^ no more buying every dye to see how it'll look.

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Originally Posted by Andrewzz

A gear preview would be awesome, and we haven't received any confirmation on such feature.

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We have.
We know that they are working on it.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings,

We'll be implementing a preview for dyeing equipment in patch 2.2. This feature will allow you to check how the color of each piece of equipment will appear via the dye window. You'll even be able to take a look at how your equipment will look with dye you do not possess.

As for being able to preview equipment before you equip it, we need a bit more time to work on it, but once the implementation timing has been decided we will be sure to update you!

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1813325

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hello, everyone.

The implementation of an improved gear comparison feature has been pushed back to patch 2.3. Currently there are no details about this feature that we can share as of yet, but once the time draws closer we (or perhaps Minagawa!) will be sure to make a follow-up post. Apologies for the delay.

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2.3 is pretty far away for such a feature and I think it should be implemented sooner rather then later as it would help people out with gearing there characters for the new coil turns.

It would be nice to have the ability to simply right click on an item and at the bottom is "compare" and a window will display with the item dialog box on the left and on the right you select the second item. Once both items are selected you would then in the middle have a differential breakdown between the two items (if they were the same slot aka head / sword ).

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Originally Posted by PrimeCl0ver

It would be nice to have the ability to simply right click on an item and at the bottom is "compare" and a window will display with the item dialog box on the left and on the right you select the second item. Once both items are selected you would then in the middle have a differential breakdown between the two items (if they were the same slot aka head / sword ).

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Interesting. It's a bit more complex than the initial suggestion, but would have the advantage of being able to compare to the appropriate gear rather than just to your currently equipped gear. (For instance, when something drops in a dungeon for a different class than your current one, and you have to remember what gear you have for that class to decide if it would be an upgrade you want to roll for.) It'd be nice to be able to, when tank gear drops, compare to your current tank gear; when DoW DPS gear drops, compare to your current DoW gear; when caster gear drops, compare to your current caster gear; all regardless of which you're wearing at the time.

Perhaps (to make finding it quicker), instead of selecting a second item, we could select a gear set and it would automatically compare to the matching slot of that gear set. I expect nearly everyone has a gear set that identifies the best gear they currently have for each class they're pursuing.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

It'd be nice to be able to, when tank gear drops, compare to your current tank gear; when DoW DPS gear drops, compare to your current DoW gear; when caster gear drops, compare to your current caster gear; all regardless of which you're wearing at the time.

Perhaps (to make finding it quicker), instead of selecting a second item, we could select a gear set and it would automatically compare to the matching slot of that gear set. I expect nearly everyone has a gear set that identifies the best gear they currently have for each class they're pursuing.

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Nice idea! I often roll greed just in case because I don't have time to open my armory chest and check, then feel bad when it turns out I have better gear for that class already.

The issue I guess would be comparing with several other disciples of war classes (they can't all be on screen at once), or indeed several sets of a single class / job. So maybe by default it would show your equipped gear with full comparison, and beside this would be a list of your gearsets showing basic comparison (probably based on ilvl > damage / defence > otherstats):

Gearset1 -
Gearset2 -
Gearset3 +
Gearset4
Gearset5 -
etc...

"Gearset" would be the actual gearset name. In the example above you would quickly see that the gear may be better than the current Gearset3 piece. Gearset4 is not able to equip the new gear and the other Gearsets already have better gear in that slot. If you could then toggle through these to show the full comparison, you cold compare in finer detail.

I think one of the problems they may be having is the different abilities some equipment has compared to others (accuracy, determination and skill speed on one and accuracy, determination and crit chance on another) and how it would appear in the equipment that doesn't normally have that stat. Just a guess though.

But I'm eagerly waiting for this to come through. That and the style preview screen.