Seeing how we don't need ilvl110 outside coil...

How about when you're not in coil your equipment gets capped at ilvl 100 since we don't obviously need it outside coil.

People being above ilvl 100 outside coil affects you in what way really? O.O

well they say we don't need ilvl110 outside coil so why not cap it outside it :X

http://i.imgur.com/NuD5WPj.gif

But I want to punt a level 1 squirrel with the might of an army :<

Why not go a step further and cap ilvl 70 in all 4 man dungeons? Death to speed runs!

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Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs

Why not go a step further and cap ilvl 70 in all 4 man dungeons? Death to speed runs!

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Now that's crazy, crazy enough to work :X

I don't see how this negatively affects people that can do coil. Failed revenge thread.

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Originally Posted by Awrini

I don't see how this negatively affects people that can do coil. Failed revenge thread.

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means they won't be any better than someone who doesn't run coil?

If you're so good why do you need 110 for the content outside coil?

Whomever said that we do?

Provocation is too obvious. Dunno if troll or just drunk.

One meme to sum this up perfectly.
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2943/over9000d.png

sure, that's exactly what i want to do. spend my time leveling, gearing up, and learning how to play my job just to get outside of a dungeon and delevel for the fun of it..... i think not. i already have to do enough of that ignorance when going into lower level dungeons. it doesn't need to be forced anywhere else, but if you want to carry a different set of clothes and change yourself outside of a dungeon that's your own decision. i'll leave the dungeon and wear the gear that i earned and use it to its full potential.

Your arguements are you don't need ilvl110 outside coil so what's the big deal if you're capped to ilvl100 outside coil?

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Originally Posted by 00039

Your arguements are you don't need ilvl110 outside coil so what's the big deal if you're capped to ilvl100 outside coil?

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the big deal is the game already does too much of the stupid capping. the point of gearing up is to feel stronger. it may not be needed outside of coil, but why should you force anyone to go down in strength for no reason at all? if you want to get technical i'm sure coil t9 will be beaten with well less than 110 average ilvl anyways, but it's pure wrong to force someone to drop for no good reason. if they want to carry a lower level set of gear to wear outside of a dungeon then that's up to them and fine, but trying to cap it for no reason is pure stupidity.

Someone is real mad.

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Originally Posted by Awrini

I don't see how this negatively affects people that can do coil. Failed revenge thread.

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LoL i found ya on the forums

hey Awrini :D

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Someone is real mad.

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Nah just trying to show how stupid the whole argument that you don't need 110 outside coil is and the fact all the ones saying it just want to stroke their e-peen

So yes you are mad.

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Originally Posted by 00039

Nah just trying to show how stupid the whole argument that you don't need 110 outside coil is and the fact all the ones saying it just want to stroke their e-peen

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it's not a stupid argument to say you don't "need" the gear outside of coil, but just because you can't get the gear due to low skill doesn't mean others should be punished for it. they did get the gear without having it so it can be done if skilled enough.

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So yes you are mad.

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not really sure if they are mad, jealous, or trolling.

Guess we have this thread since the other one got deleted =p

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Fine by me, I really only need my i110 gear for coil to progress on the harder turns.

If people are good enough to beat the new turns, they kind of deserve to be a higher gear level than everyone else. It's not necessarily them stroking their e-peens, it's them being proud of accomplishing something that not many people can accomplish. The only reason to devalue their achievement would be out of jealousy of not being able to do it yourself, and it's not that person's fault if you are incapable of handling the harder content in the game. In the end though, it's just a game, and what does it matter if someone is a higher ilvl than you? It just means they'll most likely run out of content faster and get bored.

Just think of Coil gear similar to end game dungeons like Valkyrie Profile 2's Seraphic Gate.

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/EUENDIfJsw8/hqdefault.jpg

End game dungeon full of goodies that you don't really need and are optional if you want it then do it. No idea why players seems so stressed out over loot that's a bit better.

I actually think a scale down ilvl should be in place. This way, old content doesn't become insignificant/waytooeasy because of new gear. Similar to the way gw2 does it, being scaled down is still better than being right on the recommended ilvl. So e.g. recommend = i70 scaled = i75 or 80. 80 is probably better since the recommended is usually too hard for the average folk. Else further down the line when i200 comes out or something, it would be silly for those people to be able to solo or two man dungeons.

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Originally Posted by 00039

means they won't be any better than someone who doesn't run coil?

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Yes they will. See, they actually know how to use their gear. That's why they were clearing T1-4 in i70, and T5 in the low 80s. T6-8 was done in low i90s.

Meanwhile, you have people in i90-100 gear that still can't do T1 or T2, or that can't do EX primals. Any of them.

lol i love how people that were screaming that you dont need coil gear if you dont coil now are saying this shouldnt be done.
hypocrite much?

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Originally Posted by razzgrizz3

lol i love how people that were screaming that you dont need coil gear if you dont coil now are saying this shouldnt be done.
hypocrite much?

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Guess we have this thread since the other one got deleted =p

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Fine by me, I really only need my i110 gear for coil to progress on the harder turns.

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Come again? Did you even read the posts in the thread?

All of the people screaming for ilvl caps don't even understand that they won't be able to do content anymore because they won't have that ol' gear crutch to fall back on.

I say bring it, cap all the things. I won't have any issues doing the new dungeons at i70, but how about those people that still wipe to Diablos in i90?

since t9 has already been beaten, an the highest anyone couldve possible been for it was i92ish (maybe a lil higher if they got some coil drops otw up), seems to me that nobody needs i110, an its just as much of a perk for non-coilers as it is for coilers. i didnt understand the point of this debate in the last thread an still dont i guess lol, not like it matters anyway since the only way to get 110 is to do coil

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Originally Posted by DoubleT

since t9 has already been beaten

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wait what?

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Originally Posted by 00039

How about when you're not in coil your equipment gets capped at ilvl 100 since we don't obviously need it outside coil.

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TROOOOOOLLLLL!

So basically, because you can't work on your gear and skills people are not allowed to use the stuff they worked so hard to get to their full potential. oook.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

not really sure if they are mad, jealous, or trolling.

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First two.

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since t9 has already been beaten, an the highest anyone couldve possible been for it was i92ish (maybe a lil higher if they got some coil drops otw up), seems to me that nobody needs i110, an its just as much of a perk for non-coilers as it is for coilers. i didnt understand the point of this debate in the last thread an still dont i guess lol, not like it matters anyway since the only way to get 110 is to do coil

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Must be great to have a time machine and live in the future. No one has downed the last boss in the new coil yet.

ilvl cap in certain places would indeed be nice. Its pretty surprising to see garuda SM take longer than extreme at times....due to ex being overgeared.