An idle question to non-legacy players

As a legacy character, at the end of the original main story line, after killing Ultima Weapon etc, there's a moment where 'the penny drops' so to speak among the gathered NPCs and they all somehow remember who you were pre-V2.

It's the part where they're all gathered outside the Praetorium assuming the worst (before you magestically charge out on Maggie with Thancred in tow).

Is there anything similar for non-legacy characters?

It's hard to describe, so apologies if I'm being vague. Has anyone completed it on legacy and non-legacy characters and knows what I'm getting at?


Edit: The two endings thanks greatly to Enkidoh and Kiroh

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Merlwyb: "<he/she> is still in there..."
Raubahn: "Cid! Has there been no word?"
Cid: "Nothing. Nothing at all."
Papalymo: "Damnation!"
Yda: "<He/she> is going to make it! I know <he/she> is!"
Y'shtola: "Yda is right. We must have faith."
Kan-E-Senna: "Cid! Can they not be evacuated aboard the Enterprise?"
Kan-E-Senna: "That adventurer and the Scions are as the Warriors of Light reborn."
Kan-E-Senna: "We cannot abandon them to their fate! Not again!"
Cid: "I wholeheartedly agree! But flying into the midst of that would only add to the fireworks!"
Alphinaud: "There must be something we can do!"
Minfilia (to herself): "Please Mother Hydaelyn. Please light <his/her> way through the darkness..."
The Mothercrystal (through the Echo): 'Look into the Light, my child. If thou wouldst see thy companions returned safe to thee, reach out to them now.'
(A flash of light and Minfilia turns towards the tunnel)
Minfilia: "There!"
Papalymo: "Oh!"

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

Merlwyb : He's still in there...

Raubahn : Cid! Has there been no word?

Cid : Nothing. Nothing at all.

Papalymo : Damnation!

Yda : He's going to make it. I know he is!

Y'shtola : Yda is right. We must have faith.

Kan-E-Senna : Cid, can they not be evacuated aboard the Enterprise?
That adventurer and the Scions are as the warriors of light reborn.
We cannot abandon them to their fate! Not again!

Cid : I wholeheartedly agree! But flying into the midst of that would only add to the fireworks!

Alphinaud : There must be something we can do!

Minfilia : Please mother Hydaelyn, please light his way through the darkness...

"Look into the light my child. If thou wouldst see thy companions returned safe to thee, reach out to them now."

Y'shtola : It's him. I feel his presence!"

Yda : Can it be...? Is it really him!?

Papalymo : I knew it! I knew it all along!

Kan-E-Senna : Who speaks...? The Crystal! She calls to us!

Merlwyb : I hear her! The voice of Hydaelyn Herself.

Raubahn : She speaks of...
Strike me down! No wonder he seemed so familiar! He's one of the Warriors of Light!

What are you smirking at Cid? You knew didn't you!?

Cid : Oh, You mean our adventurer friend? Did I forget to mention he was one of the Warriors of Light?

Saved Eorzea you know. Twice.

*Minfilia wipes away a tear*

Minfilia : The shroud is lifted. They remember you...

There!

*cutscene continues as normal*

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Probably just an excerpt of passage that is left out for non-legacy. I vaguely remember a gathering of NPC's in the last cutscene similar to what you described, but nothing to those effects of words said to us. They most likely replaced it with something vague like "A new adventurer came into our land and preserved it for all of us, even though it wasn't his/her true home." It has been a long time since I finished the storyline so I can't remember exact words used, but I definitely don't remember being recognized in any extravagant way. I'm not sure what they could actually replace that particular passage with for non-legacies anyway. We weren't around for 1.0 :)

We did get a very long list of PC names who beat the original 1.0 storyline in our credits after the final CS played, but I doubt that has anything to do with what your trying to ask.

Sorry I couldn't help out more!

Well, firstly, the term 'Legacy' to describe the special alternate storyline some 1.0 players get is misleading, as not all 1.0 players have this storyline (only those who passed the Lunar transmitter fight got this slightly different storyline, all other 1.0 players have the 'standard'/'new player' story), such as myself - really 'Legacy' refers to the Legacy Campaign which had no connection to how much content you completed in game (I have Legacy status myself and I never did any of the '7th Umbral Era' story in 1.0).

As for what the ending dialogue that those who got the 'standard' storyline was (that is, the majority of players regardless whether they're a 1.0 player or a new player), give me a few moments, and I'll type it all up here.

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Originally Posted by main scenario quest The Ultimate Weapon (ending scene)

Serpent Scout: "My lady! All Twin Adder units have fallen back to the outer perimeter!"
Flame Scout: "The Flames have completed their withdrawal, General!"
Storm Scout: "Admiral! All hands accounted for!"
Merlwyb: "<he/she> is still in there..."
Raubahn: "Cid! Has there been no word?"
Cid: "Nothing. Nothing at all."
Papalymo: "Damnation!"
Yda: "<He/she> is going to make it! I know <he/she> is!"
Y'shtola: "Yda is right. We must have faith."
Kan-E-Senna: "Cid! Can they not be evacuated aboard the Enterprise?"
Kan-E-Senna: "That adventurer and the Scions are as the Warriors of Light reborn."
Kan-E-Senna: "We cannot abandon them to their fate! Not again!"
Cid: "I wholeheartedly agree! But flying into the midst of that would only add to the fireworks!"
Alphinaud: "There must be something we can do!"
Minfilia (to herself): "Please Mother Hydaelyn. Please light <his/her> way through the darkness..."
The Mothercrystal (through the Echo): 'Look into the Light, my child. If thou wouldst see thy companions returned safe to thee, reach out to them now.'
(A flash of light and Minfilia turns towards the tunnel)
Minfilia: "There!"
Papalymo: "Oh!"
(The player then jumps out of the exploding tunnel in dramatic fashion riding the magitek armour, which I presume is the end of the part of the dialogue you wanted to clarify. ;))

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As a non-legacy character, no. That moment you get as a legacy character simply doesn't happen as non-legacy. Which kind of is a shame, since I watched someone's cs (via youtube) who had it and it was kinda nifty I thought.

We're both still known as The Warrior of Light though, Legacy or no. So in the end it actually makes little difference, but it was interesting still.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Well, firstly, the term 'Legacy' to describe... /snip

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That's the bunny. So it's just entirely missed out?

And I'm aware that not all 1.0 players are legacy players and not all legacy players have characters with the legacy mark. It's just a simple shorthand way of saying characters with the legacy mark (I assume all Lmark characters got the extended scene)
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No, they didn't - the 'mark' simply identified that character as being a character transferred from version 1.0 - all 1.0 characters got that mark, and it had nothing to do with Legacy status or how far you got in the storyline (the later of which was the deciding factor whether or not you got the 'special' storyline with the opening of the character 'warping' in and Minfilia remembering who you were, and the special extra bit of dialogue in the ending where everyone finally remembers who you are and everything you did in 1.0.).

Unfortunately SE made this whole thing rather confusing, using the term 'Legacy' loosely to describe contradictory things. But ah well.

At several points in the storyline, the NPCs make reference to the forgotten heroes, and it seemed to me that the game was implying that my character WAS among those heroes, and has either been inflicted with the same amnesia about it as everyone else, or is keeping silent about her involvement.

Perhaps for Legacy characters, the connection is made more explicit, but that was the impression that I got: that my character is one of the forgotten ones. I may have been reading too much into it, though.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

Perhaps for Legacy characters, the connection is made more explicit, but that was the impression that I got: that my character is one of the forgotten ones. I may have been reading too much into it, though.

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They're just referencing the characters from 1.0 that went into stasis for five years (NPCs don't know this) and haven't been seen since then. (but they have, they just can't remember due to some amnesic effects from the result of the bright light that engulfed the area as Bahamut fired off his Megaflare in the cinematic)

I noticed in the intro cutscenes to coil Turn 7 and 9 that various characters refer to me (a 1.0 player) as the one who personally defeated Nael van Darnus 5 years ago. Does anyone know what they say about you if you're not legacy/1.0?

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

No, they didn't - the 'mark' simply identified that character as being a character transferred from version 1.0 - all 1.0 characters got that mark, and it had nothing to do with Legacy status or how far you got in the storyline (the later of which was the deciding factor whether or not you got the 'special' storyline with the opening of the character 'warping' in and Minfilia remembering who you were, and the special extra bit of dialogue in the ending where everyone finally remembers who you are and everything you did in 1.0.).

Unfortunately SE made this whole thing rather confusing, using the term 'Legacy' loosely to describe contradictory things. But ah well.

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Ah, I thought the legacy mark and the legacy chocobo were only for those that fulfilled the requirements of the new storyline. But, come to think of it, my level 3 THM mule has both.

Yeah, I think SE use the term pretty interchangeably, lol. Very sloppy, SE.

There are actually several points along story/quest lines that change for characters who beat nael in 1.0.

1.) The intro scene, when you go to register at the adventurer's guild the npc says something like "funny, your name is already here...".
2.) When you join the scions, Minfilia remembers who you are, but no one else does.
3.) In the CS where you're riding the airship with Cid to face Garuda, he explicitly remembers you as the one who challenged Nael with him in 1.0.
4.) After you beat Ultima, everyone else remembers you.

In case anyone wants to know how the "legacy" CS goes :

Merlwyb : He's still in there...

Raubahn : Cid! Has there been no word?

Cid : Nothing. Nothing at all.

Papalymo : Damnation!

Yda : He's going to make it. I know he is!

Y'shtola : Yda is right. We must have faith.

Kan-E-Senna : Cid, can they not be evacuated aboard the Enterprise?
That adventurer and the Scions are as the warriors of light reborn.
We cannot abandon them to their fate! Not again!

Cid : I wholeheartedly agree! But flying into the midst of that would only add to the fireworks!

Alphinaud : There must be something we can do!

Minfilia : Please mother Hydaelyn, please light his way through the darkness...

"Look into the light my child. If thou wouldst see thy companions returned safe to thee, reach out to them now."

Y'shtola : It's him. I feel his presence!"

Yda : Can it be...? Is it really him!?

Papalymo : I knew it! I knew it all along!

Kan-E-Senna : Who speaks...? The Crystal! She calls to us!

Merlwyb : I hear her! The voice of Hydaelyn Herself.

Raubahn : She speaks of...
Strike me down! No wonder he seemed so familiar! He's one of the Warriors of Light!

What are you smirking at Cid? You knew didn't you!?

Cid : Oh, You mean our adventurer friend? Did I forget to mention he was one of the Warriors of Light?

Saved Eorzea you know. Twice.

*Minfilia wipes away a tear*

Minfilia : The shroud is lifted. They remember you...

There!

*cutscene continues as normal*

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Originally Posted by Aegis

As a legacy character, at the end of the original main story line, after killing Ultima Weapon etc, there's a moment where 'the penny drops' so to speak among the gathered NPCs and they all somehow remember who you were pre-V2.

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Huh. That's pretty cool.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

There are actually several points along story/quest lines that change for characters who beat nael in 1.0.

1.) The intro scene, when you go to register at the adventurer's guild the npc says something like "funny, your name is already here...".
2.) When you join the scions, Minfilia remembers who you are, but no one else does.
3.) In the CS where you're riding the airship with Cid to face Garuda, he explicitly remembers you as the one who challenged Nael with him in 1.0.
4.) After you beat Ultima, everyone else remembers you.

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Nice. I thought legacy players didn't have any differences in story quests.

If I was a legacy player I would definitely appreciate these minor changes.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

There are actually several points along story/quest lines that change for characters who beat nael in 1.0.

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Perfect. Thank you.

Edited OP.

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Originally Posted by axemtitanium

I noticed in the intro cutscenes to coil Turn 7 and 9 that various characters refer to me (a 1.0 player) as the one who personally defeated Nael van Darnus 5 years ago. Does anyone know what they say about you if you're not legacy/1.0?

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I'm pretty sure they only mention this if you actually completed the relevant quest in 1.0 (1.23? Whatever.)

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Originally Posted by KhalidTheGreat

Nice. I thought legacy players didn't have any differences in story quests.

If I was a legacy player I would definitely appreciate these minor changes.

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It was actually quite frustrating at the start. There are places in the storyline that are a bit ... odd because of it.

I mean, you log in for the first time, do some storyline and realise the devs chose to give everyone 'amnesia' to get around essentially writing two stories, which is a bit of a cop-out, but understandable.

Then you meet Minfilia and she *does* remember you, hooray! Only to say something to the effect of "Thank god you're alive, I remember everything about you. Now let me explain what the echo that you already learnt all about in version 1 is". Essentially they force in a quick nod of the head to you in a very awkward way that jars with the rest of the conversation.

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Originally Posted by Calyanare

I'm pretty sure they only mention this if you actually completed the relevant quest in 1.0 (1.23? Whatever.)

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Yes, exactly, so what do they say if you DIDN'T do that?

I now have a problem regarding my legacy character that has popped up. My Legacy Mark has vanished from the character. Had to use the /lmark command to get it to reappear. Anyone else with a Legacy (1.0) Character who has had a Similar problem?

That's a bug that happens from time to time. As you said you just have to type /legacymark to get it to reappear (I haven't had it happen to me but it happened to my bf's character the other day - I had to help him get his character's Legacy mark back.) So don't worry, you're not alone, it's just one of those annoying little bugs that really aren't worth fixing because it's entirely possible the fix might just end up breaking something else in worse ways. Typing /legacymark fixes this issue anyway.

What really hurts is I AM a legacy player, I have the mount, the tattoo, everything, but because no one told me I had to beat a certain quest and I was going through a hard time financially I miss out on our storyline.

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Originally Posted by DrakeenaAganata

I now have a problem regarding my legacy character that has popped up. My Legacy Mark has vanished from the character. Had to use the /lmark command to get it to reappear. Anyone else with a Legacy (1.0) Character who has had a Similar problem?

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It's a bug with the Aesthetician when you mess with your tattoos. Known bug, Square said they were looking into it. Nothing major.