Party Finder isn't supposed to be used like this. (I guess...)

As you can see... issue not resolved via Support Desk.

Now... I wonder what would happen if every crafter started an all day long advertising like that (yes the guy is renewing the PF entry every hour). Flooded PF list?

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Bringing this to everyone's attention, I do hope measures are going to be taken (against the issue, not the guy) before worst case scenario happens.

I see no problems with it, there are no rules stating that Party Finder is solely for doing dungeons. It is there for people to group together and find ways to interact together without the need of an almighty RNG based system that is Duty finder. The crafter is simply using resources that is available to him, he is actually making effort to be heard in a way.

The only thing I got from this is you don't like a long list.

I see it often and it doesn't bother me one bit, I simply scroll down and continue to play.

You seem to have forgotten your image, but I'm pretty sure I know what you're talking about. Short of banning the people who do it (which would be really stupid, this is hardly banworthy) I don't see how else they could address it. As long as there's a text entry field to type whatever you want, this will exist. And removing the textbox would be terrible because it's quite useful for people to specify if they're making a learning party, experienced party, farming group, or whatever.

Honestly I don't even mind it so much, because you can filter the Party Finder to show only the particular duty you're looking for, or you could, y'know, scroll down.

Heaven forbid you use the search function in the party finder list. They guy is using resources available to him in a way that doesn't inconvenience you, so why complain?

Wait...
How is this causing you any harm? What about it is picking away at you that it is causing you such irritation? Like seriously, grow up a little. Nothing wrong with crafters actually trying to do what they like doing. SE hasn't given them any other way to sell their services besides marketboard. We have Duty Finder and Party Finder.

EDIT: You report people a lot. Over some silly stuff it looks to (besides RMT spam). Should really learn to chill and remember it's a game.

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Originally Posted by chocomaid

I see no problems with it, there are no rules stating that Party Finder is solely for doing dungeons. It is there for people to group together and find ways to interact together without the need of an almighty RNG based system that is Duty finder. The crafter is simply using resources that is available to him, he is actually making effort to be heard in a way.

The only thing I got from this is you don't like a long list.

I see it often and it doesn't bother me one bit, I simply scroll down and continue to play.

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I think SE figured people would understand that the name itself is implication enough of the use. There really shouldn't be a need for them to explicitly say what something called "Party Finder" is meant for, especially when you consider the options for activities you have available to select. Advertisement of services for things that are not part of the feature itself is misuse, harmless or not. At that point, it becomes a question of how abused (and disruptive) it becomes to determine whether or not GMs/SE need to step in. Imagine RMT spamming the party finder lol. They'd simply be using the resources available to them afterall. Yeah, you could filter, but I don't think anyone wants things to get to that point. A few people advertising things isn't a problem at all, and I doubt SE will do anything. But if it gets out of hand... you can bet that they'll have to step in. I doubt legit players would end up getting things to that point though.

rmts are not using it
it is not an issue

Better advertise it in PF rather than shout or yell function and spams.

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

I think SE figured people would understand that the name itself is implication enough of the use. There really shouldn't be a need for them to explicitly say what something called "Party Finder" is meant for, especially when you consider the options for activities you have available to select. Advertisement of services for things that are not part of the feature itself is misuse, harmless or not. At that point, it becomes a question of how abused (and disruptive) it becomes to determine whether or not GMs/SE need to step in. Imagine RMT spamming the party finder lol. They'd simply be using the resources available to them afterall. Yeah, you could filter, but I don't think anyone wants things to get to that point. A few people advertising things isn't a problem at all, and I doubt SE will do anything. But if it gets out of hand... you can bet that they'll have to step in. I doubt legit players would end up getting things to that point though.

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completely ignorant to compare the 2. 1 is a player actually playing the game and going about doing things the right way and the other is breaking tos selling gil for real money. one is a bannable offense and the other is not.

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Originally Posted by YmirEsc

rmts are not using it
it is not an issue

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agreed completely.

also add in that if rmt's were using it then it would be bannable in the first place as even them sending tells is bannable because rmt's are against the tos. it's not even worth it to compare the 2 since one is legit and the other isn't.

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Originally Posted by Ninix

You seem to have forgotten your image, but I'm pretty sure I know what you're talking about. Short of banning the people who do it (which would be really stupid, this is hardly banworthy) I don't see how else they could address it. As long as there's a text entry field to type whatever you want, this will exist. And removing the textbox would be terrible because it's quite useful for people to specify if they're making a learning party, experienced party, farming group, or whatever.

Honestly I don't even mind it so much, because you can filter the Party Finder to show only the particular duty you're looking for, or you could, y'know, scroll down.

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SE could bring an public annoncement board ingame so people can write their stuff outside of the PF.

first world problem , try to push on resolution of the post 2.2 dungeon lag , that would be actually useful for us :D

huh? people advertise stuff in the pf all the time. FC's recruiting, Statics trying to get replacements before their next run night, people selling primals. Hell sometimes people put crazy stuff in just cuz they are bored an wanna make people laugh.

I'm just asking if would it be so hard to make an advertising board similar to PF to keep everything in order...
To those thinking I'm complaining about people, you didn't get my point at all. I'm complaining about about the lack of option for people to advertise besides shouting and the lack of order by allowing them to use a feature meant to find party for other purposes.
It is a major issue? Of course not (not yet).

Should I make a post about dungeons lag? That would make people laugh for sure... as if they don't know there's a problem with that. I prefer to post about something that maybe they didn't notice.

This is better for everybody. No more shout spam every 2 mins...

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Originally Posted by Lionheart

I'm just asking if would it be so hard to make an advertising board similar to PF to keep everything in order...
To those thinking I'm complaining about people, you didn't get my point at all. I'm complaining about about the lack of option for people to advertise besides shouting and the lack of order by allowing them to use a feature meant to find party for other purposes.
It is a major issue? Of course not (not yet).
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You should have mentioned that in your first post. You reporting the person doesn't help your case much. How about start your thread saying SE should implement a feature like Party Finder for crafters? Explaining how if crafters continue to post of PF, it will be cluttered with non party finder groups.

Delete everything you have already written because it comes off like you are being a snitch.

I'm not seeing an issue, people do it all the time on my server, props to them for doing it, as most of the people doing it leave space open for people to join their party to trade, so they aren't actually using the system wrong at all.

As far as having a different/better way to advertise, that is debatable, as it should be in a place that is easily seen and regularly checked, if it was on say, a board only in cities, people probably wouldn't check them very often, but with the PF, people are always checking it.

you... report people a lot. Chill out brah.

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Originally Posted by rockso

you... report people a lot. Chill out brah.

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Careful, he might report you for that :\

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Originally Posted by Felis

SE could bring an public annoncement board ingame so people can write their stuff outside of the PF.

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That would be great, not just because of the PF but it would be more easy for me to find a crafter when none of my guildmates are available in the moment and i need something done asap.