Cross Realm Queue Moggle and Leviathan

Because you have to be an expert at both of these to be able to get a group that won't quit after one measly wipe when you are learning the fight.

I wiped on all the other EX modes and because it was cross realm queue I slowly started to learn what to do.

You can't learn what to do with party finder because everyone expects to one shot dungeons, it's really unfair for people who don't have a static raid group.

Please allow these extreme modes to be queued like the other extreme modes :(.

I don't understand, you cant use duty finder for Leviathan and Moogle extreme?

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Originally Posted by Ruri

I don't understand, you cant use duty finder for Leviathan and Moogle extreme?

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currently can't, you need to get full pt before df.

problem is ppl always stated "cleared experience players only".

Oh didn't know that. I usually do through party finder like you said for extreme mode's. I thought you could practice with duty finder that is lame not to be able to :(

The reason, much like coil at the moment, is that they are probably not possible or at least not balanced without certain jobs and in DF you could potentially get a party composition that would make the fight impossible.

Simple Solution: start a learning group on your own... take initiative.

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Originally Posted by Acala

Simple Solution: start a learning group on your own... take initiative.

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This is not a simple solution. It is boring to queue in Party Finder, it was a fun game when you could just put yourself in queue for the OTHER extreme modes. Now you cannot just do new content. Jerk.

Also, because it is not cross realm and random with other players people are worse than ever. I've put more people on my black list, this has never happened when I could just queue up for Garuda, Titan or Ifrit.

i figured they were just doing what they are doing with coil and making it party-queue-only for the first 2 weeks.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

This is not a simple solution. It is boring to queue in Party Finder, it was a fun game when you could just put yourself in queue for the OTHER extreme modes. Now you cannot just do new content. Jerk.

Also, because it is not cross realm and random with other players people are worse than ever. I've put more people on my black list, this has never happened when I could just queue up for Garuda, Titan or Ifrit.

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Funny part about this thread. Other groups of people use PF for learning, and Duty Finder for winning. Which is actually a more logical method, although you should be able to do both in either.

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Originally Posted by ispano

Other groups of people use PF for learning, and Duty Finder for winning. Which is actually a more logical method, although you should be able to do both in either.

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For reasons of anonymity, and while you may get ppl with the absolute minimul iLvL allowed for the duty in DF, your more logical method issuing PF to learn rather than DF does no more seem so logical :-P

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Originally Posted by Acala

Simple Solution: start a learning group on your own... take initiative.

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ppl still leaves after 1 wipe on training partys , i was helping a friend yesterday , we entered a training levi ex. after 1 wipe (that was really fast to be fair) ppl droped ....i guess some were really new and didnt learn anything in HM :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

This is not a simple solution. It is boring to queue in Party Finder, it was a fun game when you could just put yourself in queue for the OTHER extreme modes. Now you cannot just do new content. Jerk.

Also, because it is not cross realm and random with other players people are worse than ever. I've put more people on my black list, this has never happened when I could just queue up for Garuda, Titan or Ifrit.

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how s he/she a jerk for making a suggestion? you don't like the solution he/she offered, fair enough, but it IS a valid one.

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Originally Posted by Spoekes

For reasons of anonymity, and while you may get ppl with the absolute minimul iLvL allowed for the duty in DF, your more logical method issuing PF to learn rather than DF does no more seem so logical :-P

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But it is. You learn in PF because you can leave and reform without penalty. Because you can CHOOSE to make a party just for practice. Yes, Japanese players do it this way. PF for Practice, DF for winning.

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Originally Posted by JonBigwood

I agree, it would be fine to see more practice groups in PF.
Being expected to have exp to join the DF (if the generalised custom is to practice *only* in PF) seems too exigent, on the other hand.

The worst part is people quitting at the first or second wipe, knowing it is a practice group, or even in DF. Leaving and queueing again to leave at the second wipe, rinse and repeat, until you have the luck to fall in a group that wins before the second wipe, has no sense in my opinion.

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Oh I don't expect them to have experience, but limiting yourself to DF to practice is... stupid? People want to get into DF and win as well, I mean that's sort of why it exists. But this mentality of DF is only for practice hurts everyone.

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Originally Posted by ispano

Funny part about this thread. Other groups of people use PF for learning, and Duty Finder for winning. Which is actually a more logical method, although you should be able to do both in either.

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I agree, it would be fine to see more practice groups in PF.
Being expected to have exp to join the DF (if the generalised custom is to practice *only* in PF) seems too exigent, on the other hand.

The worst part is people quitting at the first or second wipe, knowing it is a practice group, or even in DF. Leaving and queueing again to leave at the second wipe, rinse and repeat, until you have the luck to fall in a group that wins before the second wipe, has no sense in my opinion.