Anyone from 11?

Who of you come from or once played FFXI?

For me I miss the seasons and how much they affected everything, my house moogle, breeding chocobos, the mobs ability to "smell" or "hear" you, how much elements mattered, playing in all Japanese parties, that big tree in Windurst, Galka tails, and the glitched parts only us on PS3 could get in.

Anything you miss?


What I am glad for in FFXIV-ARR are manthras. Bout time!

I miss non-instanced content that felt rewarding and zones in the open world that you would still die in at 75.

Oh, and adventuring fellows.

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Originally Posted by Prototype909

I miss non-instanced content that felt rewarding and zones in the open world that you would still die in at 75.

Oh, and adventuring fellows.

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I miss that and more... but would rather prefer the game progressed as it already does. Nostalgia doesn't a better game make, after all, and can often hurt more than help.

miss the community spirit FFXI had =/

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

I miss that and more... but would rather prefer the game progressed as it already does. Nostalgia doesn't a better game make, after all, and can often hurt more than help.

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I think the word Nostalgia is over used it a type of gameplay style that may not be enjoyed by everyone

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Originally Posted by Diadumenos

miss the community spirit FFXI had =/

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Yeah, community spirit that lead to "JP Only", "lol[insert non-bandwagon job]", "Delve Weapons only to fight Delve monsters", "TP Burn only", etc.

If you're going to look back at a game, give people the whole facts.

I miss how XI actually felt like a real world and what a mmo should have been. Not a single player lobby game like how most are going now :/

i miss the amount of leisure time i had in those years.

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Originally Posted by Obysuca

I miss how XI actually felt like a real world and what a mmo should have been. Not a single player lobby game like how most are going now :/

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Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy XIV, but something that frustrates me to no end is that the entire endgame is literally instances. Instances. Instances.

By next patch I hope to see some legitimate open-world endgame. It would make me feel so much better about this game. (If I'm stepping on anyone's toes by asking for this, you can friggin shove off, your selfishness sickens me.)

I still play XI at the time, started back in 2006. What I like of XIV over XI are, like you, male Miqo'tes (and female Roegadyn, though making Roe without the Galkan tail killed my will to roll as one), and most of all how exploration-friendly the areas are (you can very easily avoid aggro by following the roads, and if a mob spots you, it can be easily outran); it was my major peeve with XI, to have to wait to be higher level to see the cool zones. I'm kinda glad to see many aspects of XIV implemented in XI, such as the Records of Eminence (Previously vaguely similar to Hunting Log, but now exactly like the Challenge Log) and the look-locking, which is what closer to Glamour we'll ever get.


There isn't much I miss from XI that I'd like to see in XIV. Playing both games, I prefer that they keep their differences; This game shouldn't be XI-2... It was already bad enough that the races were identical (It's why I rolled male Miqo'te. I wanted something I couldn't play on XI). Though I admit there are things that could be taken from there that would make XIV's experience wider. Mainly the variety of jobs and areas, but those are things that I definitely look forward to come out with expansions.

I guess, as an XI player, all in all I'm pretty content with how the games are^^ Now I just hope SE doesn't ruin XIV by bringing forth Abyssea there too (the introduction of Atmas in XIV gave me an heart attack). Aby is still at this day my most hated aspect of XI, I blame it for XI's fall in popularity and I wish it'd just go away >_<!! I want my old exp parties back.

I miss having a Mythic T.T

I agree with how the world felt more alive since there was very little instances and you weren't teleporting every couple minutes to anywhere in the world. That is probably the biggest issue for me, everything else in FFXI was great back then but I don't think I could do it all over again.

I miss a lot from XI @.@ dynamis, sea, sky, hnm, the list could go on all the way to the most simple things graphic wise, like the size and look of summoners avatars (because let face it - the summons in XIV just aren't as cool looking as they were in XI).

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Originally Posted by Phe

i miss the amount of leisure time i had in those years.

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I stopped reading at this post. I still don't know how I put in the time I did, worked and partied hard at same time, I was a beast.

Now I'm living the real No country for old men

That's why FFXIV so good for me, I ain't got THAT time.

On subject though the most I miss was the friends I had, we would fight till it's over. I don't know where these people come from that quit so quick that claim they came from FF11.

Played XI for years and I miss the world most of all. Was on carby and then Odin for awhile. The world really made it feel like you were a part of it and the music was amazing. Something that I felt from XI that I haven't felt in another mmo is feeling like you were an adventurer helping other adventurers. Call me crazy but the class and party system were awesome and I would love an updated more modern version of it. Abby killed the world.

The only 2 things I did not like about FFXI was the deleveling and mandatory party to level. I can tell you this tho: I have yet to play a game that made me feel as immersed as FFXI did. (FFXIV is getting there).

I have a running subscription to XI on the Asura server (although I rarely play these days).

If I had to choose what I liked about it back in the day (2002[late]-2008), I would have to say the awesome community and general comradery between players.

The sheer difficulty of the game back then literally forced players to make bonds with each other and make connections that were not easily broken. Even "JP Only" and overly excessive "requirements" for partying/raiding were the few or rarely seen negatives within the game. It's only very recently that it's become the norm in FFXI to be required to have a certain set/gear level for raiding, and that only started happening when the game edged closer to "solo play".

As for the Japanese, that whole "JP Only" is complete, and utter bull! I have partied with many Japanese people in the past, and even though I had to communicate with the auto-translator, we all got along really well. I even caught them off guard once while I was studying Japanese years later when I realized they were making fun of how "The THF (me) is pulling the beetles wrong. wwww" and responded with the auto-translator ((wrong way.)) ((pull back)) ((Understood.)). From there it was all fun, games and many "w w w w w"s.

What do I like most about FFXI today? The Trust System! Because with how many people have abandoned FFXI lately (and with how easy Abyssea made leveling from 30-99...), it is impossible to find players, let alone a "group" of players willing to level up with you (so much for level-sync). So Trust fills a void where your party members would normally have been (I find myself talking to the Trust NPCs because I'm lonely while leveling... they never talk back though -_-).

What do I hate most about FFXI today? The Trust System! Because it requires that you have no-one else in your party to summon even ONE NPC! When I want to party with that one lone player around my level in the zone, but doing so would mean we'd both have to rest for 5 minutes in between fights (They still haven't upgraded this since 2008!), I don't really feel like partying... Doing so would require I play the game 50% of the time instead of 100% of the time and enjoying it with an actual human being by my side. =(

So yeah, Trust is both a blessing and a curse, but only because of the restrictions they placed upon it and due to the fact that you are still required to rest between fights to heal your HP. =(

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Originally Posted by Zwipe

the deleveling and mandatory party to level.

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But that taught people not to be stupid and half ass their way through stuff because there was a consequence and the partying forced people to be social and helped build the community. That's why XIV and most every mmo lacks a decent one, because everyone can solo the entire game :/

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Originally Posted by IfritReborn

You 11 peeps really need to go back into your woodshed/closet/bridge/wherever the hell it is you came from and stop giving this team your "ideas"

Look at what it's already caused

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Overreactions?

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Originally Posted by Obysuca

But that taught people not to be stupid and half ass their way through stuff because there was a consequence and the partying forced people to be social and helped build the community. That's why XIV and most every mmo lacks a decent one, because everyone can solo the entire game :/

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I agree with what you are saying to a certain extent. It's true that it totally rewards you for teamwork, and punishes you for being stupid, which I like. problem is that you serious CANNOT do anything by yourself unless you were a beastmaster. On certain days I would wait 3+ hours idleing in a zone just to get into a group, only to lose the exp i made the night before. I wouldn't mind if I could have killed simple mobs while waiting, but you could not even do that once you reach a certain level. I dont know if it changed when i stopped in 2004, so my rant may be obsolete.

I miss the "not giving up" attitude, Now if one person dies ppl are like, "wipe it and lets start over again"... i mean wtf we can still try and do it. The community. Party lving, chain number 320. The having skill over gear way to do things (i.e tank dies or healer and still find a way to kill the boss, Like kitting and nuking.). Music is a big one, The lost city of amdor brought nostalgia back. MPK, Zoning.... when the puller got more than 3 mobs. The FREAKING CS and story, ffxiv sucks at that. alot more alot more

I miss that time mattered. Things spawned at night, during certain moon phase and weather. Some shops was only open certain times or days.

I also miss that debuffs where awesome, dispels where needed.

I miss a lot more then that, but to tired atm to type them all out.

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Party lving, chain number 320.

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I only got to around 180. But I would have pretty much liked it if they had skipped that expansion, because it was during that they ruined ranged attack.

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Originally Posted by Amberion

I miss that time mattered. Things spawned at night, during certain moon phase and weather. Some shops was only open certain times or days.

I also miss that debuffs where awesome, dispels where needed.

I miss a lot more then that, but to tired atm to type them all out.



I only got to around 180. But I would have pretty much liked it if they had skipped that expansion, because it was during that they ruined ranged attack.

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They ruined it during eye/taurus burns in CoP out in ule range ? =P (I was KC RNG so I cant really say my RNG was ever ruined gogo cannonshells)

I miss the darkness within me.

http://ffxistyle.files.wordpress.com.../elv_drk_1.jpg

I played XI for years, liked it a lot. I stopped playing it when it felt like everything was about grinding end game gear by defeating bosses over and over again, I enjoyed the travel to endgame more than being max level.

Maybe that's why I don't play XIV often, I am leveling another class and another char, just for the fun of playing something, but the road trip to max level isn't as cool as in XI (before Abyssea) sure was boring in some cases but I liked the feel of exploring the world. XIV doesn't have that as much, but it's nice to fit some shorts playtime to level alone and not just stand there for hours like in XI. I enjoy and hate things in both games, but commonly I don't like the over effort to do something once you reach max level

FFXI is still online..

So many people in FFXIV are unhappy because the game isn't FFXI 2.0. I loved FFXI and sometimes think about re-subbing. Then I remember how the entire MMO gaming genre has evolved since 2003 (FFXI NA launch -- literally 10 years ago) and I don't re-sub. Nostalgia has a funny way of covering up the glaring flaws in FFXI. Apples to apples, both games have their brown spots. However, both games have unique and amazing qualities as well.

Oddly enough I miss fishing from the Ferry and Pirates trying to kill me. =3

I miss when FFXIV didn't have many ex FFXI players.

I miss how bard was in ffxi. I loved the positioning, running back and forth between the melee's and the ranged people. There were a TON of songs. FFXIV on the other hand has like what 6 songs....

I had so much fun pulling mobs back to camp, while singing and backup healing. Bard was totally a support job. Tried bard in ffxiv and very rarely even sung my songs, its mainly a dps, not a full support job anymore :(

Sux how they dumbed down all the jobs in ffxiv. WHM, blm, ect are so limited on spells and abilities, compared to what we had in ffxi.

Also miss that 90% of the gear and stuff you got was tradable between players. FFXIV 90% of the gear is unique, untradeable :( Havn't even botherd to look at the market bord since I got to lvl 50, not even once.

I miss the open world that mattered. That had far away and dangerous places and adventure.
I also miss the music.

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Originally Posted by PixelPirate

FFXI is still online..

So many people in FFXIV are unhappy because the game isn't FFXI 2.0.

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FFXI also isn't FFXI as far as I'm concerned. These two arguments are repeated every day, sometimes multiple times.

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Originally Posted by Issac

Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy XIV, but something that frustrates me to no end is that the entire endgame is literally instances. Instances. Instances.

By next patch I hope to see some legitimate open-world endgame. It would make me feel so much better about this game. (If I'm stepping on anyone's toes by asking for this, you can friggin shove off, your selfishness sickens me.)

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Not exactly the same thing trust me on this one but they did just give you fate open world grinding for Atma's. (lol)

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Originally Posted by Issac

FFXI also isn't FFXI as far as I'm concerned. These two arguments are repeated every day, sometimes multiple times.

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Well it is.. It's just not the FFXI you and I remember, but you have to adapt with the times otherwise you end up old and grumpy saying "Back in my day".

Def not bitter. Like both games for what they provide. You can't play the new one without remembering the old one tho.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Well it is.. It's just not the FFXI you and I remember, but you have to adapt with the times otherwise you end up old and grumpy saying "Back in my day".

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Back in my day (2003) we still said "Back in my day" and related it to something like EverQuest or Phantasy Star Online. :D

I agree with the "old and grumpy" part though... so so old. ;_;

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Well it is.. It's just not the FFXI you and I remember, but you have to adapt with the times otherwise you end up old and grumpy saying "Back in my day".

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Back in my day we lost 10% of our EXP till next level just for being KOed and we were happy to have it! ::cough wheeze:: Where's my medicine?

I'm not quite sure what's with the cancerous attitude of some people that are playing FFXIV right now that hate on FFXI players for reasons they have fabricated in their heads, but it's pathetic and should stop. XIV will take from XI lots, whether you like it or not, it's made by the same company and is the spiritual successor (Note a lot of things from XIV are HD versions of XI content).

I enjoyed XI and miss it and many of it's features, but not enough to go back to it, which means I much prefer XIV these days. There was way more to do in XI, but I didnt even join until WoG, and outside of Japan nobody else played it until the first expansion was out, giving it plenty of time to build up content. I have faith that over time more and more features will be added to XIV, especially since they've been pretty good about adding what players asked for compared to XI.

XI was great at the time. I loved the challenge and the accomplishment, I loved having a team to do things with, I loved exploring and all that. At least looking back on it I do. In reality, that game was frustrating and I just didn't realise it. I remember doing dynamis and the anxiety when other groups showed up at the same time and we'd have to rush to prepare. I remember spending hours doing that event every week with the same group who I realised I didn't really like most of the people in it.

I remember doing exp parties, killing the same mobs in the same spot for hours on end, being happy to get 150+xp per mob, but having to wait hours to get an invite, then having a horrible time trying to get out to the camp and possibly dying along the way (and losing exp), and then having another group come and camp on top of us. Sometimes we'd die so many times, or go so slow, that I'd lose as much exp as I made.

I remember the community spirit. Everyone knew each other, that was great. But oh, that drama! So much drama. So many guys pretending to be women and then people freaking out when they found out their 'girlfriend'/cyber buddy was actually a man. The way if you played anything that wasn't flavour of the month, you'd never get anywhere. Imagine how difficult it was when my main jobs went smn then dnc. While I ended up doing quite a bit and being useful in dyna, the only reason I even got into a ls for that was that my boyfriend was the main tank for it.

Things that I do really miss though, that I have no bad memories of, was mainly the creativity. You had different ways to build your character, and you could fill different roles. I really miss dnc for that reason, I could be healer, dd, tank, puller, whatever on that. Gear swapping was a pain in the butt, especially when your inventory was full of gear for just one job, but it always gave you something to strive for. That next upgrade, that next piece of gear for x set.

Also chocobo breeding.

If XI had an overhaul to it, I would happily go back. Graphics remake, interface, combat pace. Those are about the only things that are too dated for my liking.

Combat "is" horrendously slow, and resting for twice as long is rather bad. XI could benefit from updating certain parts of it. The "core" of the game is still great imo anyways. Still love it's layout, design (aside from Abyssea), soundtrack, atmosphere. I would sooner hop in XI v2 2014 Overhaul Edition over ARR.

In short, if XI ever got the graphics fidelity and combat "pace" of ARR, I'd return for years once again. The archaic parts of XI are not the overarching gameplay elements, but the fundamental gameplay elements.

I miss how involved I was with the community, whether it be laughing at a party wiping from a ghoul at night, or PLing Some random people for fun. I miss oldschool exp parties, yeah I said it. I love when people cry saying "shouting for a party for 4 hours was fun" (sarcasm). In response I say to you in glad you waited miserably because you didn\\\\\\\\'t have the knowledge to form your own party. You were lazy and just wanted it to fall in your lap. Everyone these days wants the easy way, thank WoW for that. I don\\\\\\\\'t think leveling up should be so easy, I miss the deleveling. Kept the noobs at a low level. That whole delevel function made you a more skillful player in the sense that you would learn your job better. Not all this button mashing crap. Man I miss it, you call it nostalgia yet how is it that I played it for 6 years and I play ffxiv for a month? Haters will hate but ffxi was for hardcore players only, the patient, the skilled.

Bobbinthrdbare of Bahamut here.

I do miss alot of contents there and further along. But as of now, I do realize that it is kind of almost impossible to play 2 MMO at once. Just recently subbed for another month to get the new Trust NPC: Lehko from WotG and finally getting that Cait Sith summon which has been taking years to develop. But aside that, I really don't have the power to multitask MMO, which is really sad, especially with contents in XIV keeps growing.