Large scale PvP, how do you feel abou it being in FFXIV

I recently started a thread thinking I discovered Large Scale PVP through a translation only to be enlightened that I had read it last week and forgot. Oh well, my main point was to really find out about what people think about large scale pvp in ffixv. I know many people say this isn't that kind of game and if they want that go play wow, while other will say they can have it its not like your being forced to partake. What do you think.

I for one think it will be a welcomed addition to a content starved game and will need it to compete with other games that have it. If you are not being forced to play it what can it hurt.

As long as PvP never effects PvE and open world PvP never happens I have no problem with it.

What Xatsh said. This is FF, I'd rather see PvP kept to friendly competitive terms.

I don't want it.
I always despised PvP in every game I ever played, even though it actually was fun or at least innovative in some of them.
I don't even like the thought of PvP being in a game I enjoy, so it doesn't matter to me if I'm not forced to participate or if it has no effect on regular PvE.
Shut away as something totally unimportant in some reclusive arena without any effects on the rest of the game, well, that may be bearable.
But large scale PvP? Never.:mad:

I really don't think it fits into the storyline of FFXIV either.
We are supposed to unite to fight off the Garleans. Mini PvP may pass as a friendly duel, but with mass PvP, it becomes a little war between groups which is like the total opposite of what we are supposed to do. :rolleyes:

I believe it needs to be plausible within the lore of the game.

If the adventurer's guild were to split into two factions (eg: pro-Beast tribes vs pro-Garleans) then it could be plausible for world-scale PvP.

Right now, I only see it plausible in some form of tournament setting like the gladiator's bloodsands. The feeling in the game is otherwise just not right. (...yet?)

the whole large scale PvP is all based on a mistranslation i found out, although i think if they added it in and it had something to do with he company's it could be cool. Also in the Colosseum it would be cool if you could wager gil and crystals on your on fight and possibly other people fights as well. I in no way would want pvp were people just go around killing everyone.

i support pvp in all it's forms. one important factor i'd like in ffxiv that ffxi didn't have is ...the easy button. i want anything pvp or pve that will work like scenarios. where as u can just sign up for it and be playing within 5-10 mins and play for 20mins and done. something quick and easy to do without all the running, without all the planning, without making groups, without the hassles . it was missing from ffxi and i think it is something that is needed, anything really easy to do when u got a 30mins time inbetween events, or waiting for a good time to craft, or when u just need a break from whatever.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Xatsh

As long as PvP never effects PvE and open world PvP never happens I have no problem with it.

---

yeah sums it up ^^

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by syntaxlies

the whole large scale PvP is all based on a mistranslation i found out, although i think if they added it in and it had something to do with he company's it could be cool. Also in the Colosseum it would be cool if you could wager gil and crystals on your on fight and possibly other people fights as well. I in no way would want pvp were people just go around killing everyone.

---

yeah being able to to watch and bet on would be nice as well ^^ kinda lik eteh choco races in ff7 ^^ at the gold saucer

Personally, I have no interest in playing PvP and I think the devs should be more concerned about all the minor junk that's completely bass-ackwards in the game before adding things.

That being said I can understand their thinking in implementing it, there are alot of people who's main interest in MMOs is the pvp aspect. And the devs realize they can't ignore that market.

As others have said, as long as in implementing PvP they don't adversely effect PvE it won't bother me. I'd just like to see more polish before I see people whacking each other.

i think how manny likes the op has says it all.

Bad idea. Look at our UI and tell me "Large scale PvP" is a good idea.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Ferth

Personally, I have no interest in playing PvP and I think the devs should be more concerned about all the minor junk that's completely bass-ackwards in the game before adding things.

That being said I can understand their thinking in implementing it, there are alot of people who's main interest in MMOs is the pvp aspect. And the devs realize they can't ignore that market.

As others have said, as long as in implementing PvP they don't adversely effect PvE it won't bother me. I'd just like to see more polish before I see people whacking each other.

---

I agree completely.

Honestly, I think SE would do an awful job when it comes to balancing classes/jobs for PvP, judging from the state of the classes and skills right now and what they've done with them via minor tweaks. They'd have to introduce many skills that are designed for PvP as well, and then make them work properly (better stealth/hide, fake death, traps and snares and so on) Right now everyone would be able to have every skill (except the few class-locked that we have right now) and you'd probably be butchered constantly by the best build once it's discovered. I'm thinking THM with GLA/ARC/CON skill mix or something along those lines seeing how well they do at soloing high ranked roaming NMs, but I might be wrong.

PvP would also need to be introduced somehow into the world of XIV as, right now, I don't see why people would kill each other, judging from what little storyline and lore we have. Perhaps a war between the 3 cities will erupt? Or maybe a tournament/arena could be introduced.

The only PvP that I really enjoyed, and ever really played was the one in LotRO. For those not familiar: You could separately have a whole new 'mob' character with whom you played against regular players on PvP specialized maps. I loved the idea of playing on the opposite side, as a Warg, against the good guys, and have my monster character level up and gain skills much like my main character would, and it also added tons of fun when battling my guildmates and snapping their necks :p

The standard PvP, especially if open world, no thanks. I try to keep out of it as much as I can, and don't like being randomly PKed. Optional large-scale PvP could work (but I still think the LotRO formula would work best for several reasons).

Open world PvP? no, keep it out. Instanced PvP so that I don't have to deal with childish people that like to gank PvE people because they didn't get McDonalds for supper? Sure.

I say Keep gladiators true to their class. Let them and ONLY them participate in like arena events, and allow people to wager coin on who will win!

I would totally cheer on the glads in my LS!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by alexi14

I say Keep gladiators true to their class. Let them and ONLY them participate in like arena events, and allow people to wager coin on who will win!

I would totally cheer on the glads in my LS!

---

And it gives people real incentive to rank up that class too! Win-win!

just gona repost from other pvp thread.

Below we have the results of player asked questions from FFXIVCore.com that was asked to Hiromichi Tanaka about FFXIV. Grab a cup of coffee or something nice, such as orange juice and please enjoy reading our exclusive interview with the producer of FFXIV himself.

What about PVP?

We have the same stance on PVP as we had in FFXI, we're having a focus on PVE, but we may introduce some sort of sports-type that might be tied to PVP in the future. What we're worrying about is that we dont want to have any PK'ing or harassment types of activities in the game. So in order to provide a safe environment to everyone and a game to enjoy. So we're not focusing on PVP.

i believe this was in 2009
but id also like to add from FF14 news.com

Issues with PvP

dead bodies can drive away people uninterested in PvP if it is forced. From our experience, the people that truly enjoy PvP in MMOs are the same types of people that play games like Counter-Strike, Team Fortress and other first-person shooters. The issue is that there are a large number of people that have a distaste for fighting others: they do not enjoy the stress that comes along with it. If the PvP system of an MMO is designed in a way where you are always in PvP situations (open-world PvP), it can drive away the players that are only there for the PvE content and hanging out with friends. World of Warcraft attempted to address this by providing the choice between servers open and closed to world PvP.

hmm that sounds like males 14-25?

i dont like wow and im not a fan of brainless fps. =p
although i do know some people like those. i think it would be to hard for a company (SE) to do both and do it right.

competitive mmo's need pvp i know. just dont force it on us and dont change pve.

http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/484-e...omichi-tanaka/

more reasons for e-peens? no thanks!!

im a lover not a fighter ^.~

Yes, but if you just have gladiator pvp in a coluseam sort of thingy where events are scheduled, and you can wager on who will win.. then it would be epic!!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by syntaxlies

I recently started a thread thinking I discovered Large Scale PVP through a translation only to be enlightened that I had read it last week and forgot. Oh well, my main point was to really find out about what people think about large scale pvp in ffixv. I know many people say this isn't that kind of game and if they want that go play wow, while other will say they can have it its not like your being forced to partake. What do you think.

I for one think it will be a welcomed addition to a content starved game and will need it to compete with other games that have it. If you are not being forced to play it what can it hurt.

---

I think the game would have some adjustments needed to add pvp into the mix. pvp is best when it is fast paced... and there are lots of other factors involved in creating a successful pvp experience. I just don't think it's in Squares nature to add have PVP in their games.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Quoc

Bad idea. Look at our UI and tell me "Large scale PvP" is a good idea.

---

Great point!

Once they fix the UI and make all the class/job adjustments and additions then I would definitely like to see some PvP. Maybe make a zone/area that you can go where you PvP and you can sign up to fight for either side. Or something of that sort.

I still really like LoTRO's PvMP where you can play a monster character and PvP that way.

PVP always makes me nervous. In an excited "I'm not sure I'm going to live through this kind of way". It's very possible to balance both pve and pvp and then just make the pvp optional. I would love to see a massive pvp in FFXIV to add to the things to do and make the game competitive.

I notice one of the biggest complaints against pvp is that classes may get changed or 'nerfed' due to pvp balancing. I find issue in this because they won't ever change a class to make it unbalanced, only change it to work differently. They may lengthen a recast timer but make the ability stronger or make casting time instant and people will shout nerf and be upset but the class will still serve its role just slightly differently. The real thing that bugs me about this is you shouldn't be choosing a class for how overpowered you feel it is but because you like playing that class. Which is why it's silly when I read these 1.18 complaints about archer and mages getting nerfed when really an archer is still an archer and mages use mp to cast spells (go figure).