Leviathan will reflect ranged attacks. D:

At least sometimes...


Veil of the Whorl

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Reflecting damage dealt by ranged attacks.

Scared to be a Bard now. :D /giggles

It also can reflect magic attacks too. Well not the same skill but its other one.

Melee DPS only pls. Looking for a quick kill.

OMG SE why do you hate ranged so much? You always make all of these fights that are melee friendly that nobody ever wants ranged for!

Imagining the ranged-only kiddos squirm brings me utter delight.

The video they have showed so far doesn't make it look very melee friendly either, so I'll just guess it's generally very unfriendly. xD

At least it's not Absorb like late game mobs in ff11 did during TP moves(like Shinryu) Now your mages and bards will wipe the group instead of make the fight take years!

About time melee DPS got some love.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

About time melee DPS got some love.

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I dunno about that... Levi seems to have a lot of knockback. (Plus water moves in general tend to do this)

Time to bring out the mage staff for some good ol' skull bashing.

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Originally Posted by RentisB

I dunno about that... Levi seems to have a lot of knockback. (Plus water moves in general tend to do this)

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Let me rephrase that then. About time ranged were punished harder.

I've got all DPS at 50 so I'm not worried. =P

Looks like SMNs finally have a reason to use Ifrit-Egi... for 1 fight.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

Let me rephrase that then. About time ranged were punished harder.

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Hehe, whatever works for me. I only do endgame stuff as heals so.

I can't wait till bards and black mages derp though and nuke the party with reflect -_- /cut

It doesn't say if it reflects at the user or the whole party.

It's kind of important because, if the bard/blm nukes themselves to death, people just laugh at them.

If they wipe the entire party from their reflected shots hitting everyone, that will be particularly bad for duty finder/party finder groups. I'm sure most of you know the woes of tunnel vision players that expect everything to be easy-peasy in those random groups. Now they'd be able to kill everyone at once! lol

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Originally Posted by MurakumoMillennium

OMG SE why do you hate ranged so much? You always make all of these fights that are melee friendly that nobody ever wants ranged for!

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What in the **** are you talking about? Ranged is always OP in current content, especially Garuda anf Ifrit EX...No one wants meele anymore :/

How does this affect ranged dps...? Guess what, you can stop attacking while the buff is up. Amazing, I know.

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Originally Posted by Tarushade

What in the **** are you talking about? Ranged is always OP in current content, especially Garuda anf Ifrit EX...No one wants meele anymore :/

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.... fairly sure that was sarcasm.

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Originally Posted by Vinroke

.... fairly sure that was sarcasm.

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Oh lmao...for a sec I was like...are u kidding me...lol long day

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Originally Posted by Billzey

How does this affect ranged dps...? Guess what, you can stop attacking while the buff is up. Amazing, I know.

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Yeah but do you really expect ranged players in a PuG to pay that much attention? >.> If so you have much more faith in the playerbase than I do. :P I have a big bridge I'll sell you! ;P

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Originally Posted by Billzey

How does this affect ranged dps...? Guess what, you can stop attacking while the buff is up. Amazing, I know.

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Stopping DPS = takes longer to kill. TIME IS GIL, MELEE ONLY.

does anyone know what else is going on during this move? like whether or not theres something else for ranged to blow up?

no?

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Originally Posted by Kat_Manx

At least sometimes...


Veil of the Whorl

Description:
Reflecting damage dealt by ranged attacks.

Scared to be a Bard now. :D /giggles

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It's possible that this may occur at a time when melee are unable to reach leviathan aka when levi is jumping over the boat or moving from place to place. The Veil may come up to prevent range users from gaining an advantage over melee since DoT may still be active during that time, but if range were able to attack while melee can't then melee would be shafted in this instance.

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Originally Posted by Airget

It's possible that this may occur at a time when melee are unable to reach leviathan aka when levi is jumping over the boat or moving from place to place. The Veil may come up to prevent range users from gaining an advantage over melee since DoT may still be active during that time, but if range were able to attack while melee can't then melee would be shafted in this instance.

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If that were the case they coulda just made him go invulnerable. >.> Why's he gotta reflect like that. That'd be just rude!

Three cheers for MNK and DRG? Bonus points if Veil of the Whirl is a... *gasp* Removable Debuff.. TIME TO SELL MY SERVICES! jk.

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Originally Posted by RentisB

If that were the case they coulda just made him go invulnerable. >.> Why's he gotta reflect like that. That'd be just rude!

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because levi-kun is still visible to dps, and thus still attackable.

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Originally Posted by Kat_Manx

At least sometimes...


Veil of the Whorl

Description:
Reflecting damage dealt by ranged attacks.

Scared to be a Bard now. :D /giggles

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Monk and WAR burns FTW !

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Originally Posted by RentisB

Yeah but do you really expect ranged players in a PuG to pay that much attention? >.> If so you have much more faith in the playerbase than I do. :P I have a big bridge I'll sell you! ;P

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Nope because in LoTA you have ranged (BRD and SMN) who attack the Allagan Bomb while all 3 vassagos are still alive.

Since ranged will be reflected does that mean they'll temporarily become a support class?

Mwahahaha

Let the range deal with what melee had to for Garuda and Ifrit. Can't wait to see all the "no melee" Levi EX fail parties (like on Titan Ex. Those still make me laugh)

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Originally Posted by Denver_Max

so you mean bards will be used like they are supposed to be? GASP

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I've always imagined them as a support class anyways.

it's funny, but as a mage main i'll do what mele should have done during the other fights. i know this is an off the wall idea, but it's one that may just work. if my mage isn't worthwhile in leviathan i won't cry and complain like the mele's did i'll just grab one of my mele classes that's already leveled and clear it with that. mind blowing i know.

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Originally Posted by saber_alter

because levi-kun is still visible to dps, and thus still attackable.

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Just like how Titan is still visible to be attacked in heart phase right? No? Oh.

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Originally Posted by Denver_Max

so you mean bards will be used like they are supposed to be? GASP

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Be used as a DPS? No, not when they can't attack. There's a reason BRD gear is covered in DPS stats with a DPS weapon and DPS abilities.

So does that mean some range person can come in and troll the entire group at will if said attacks effect everyone? Lol
I might want to try 1 CS holy during that buff to see how it works out ;0
Cuz the most hp i'd be hit for is 700ish as i assume it'll only reflect the damage u have dealt and nothing more.

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

So does that mean some range person can come in and troll the entire group at will if said attacks effect everyone? Lol
I might want to try 1 CS holy during that buff to see how it works out ;0
Cuz the most hp i'd be hit for is 700ish as i assume it'll only reflect the damage u have dealt and nothing more.

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just wait for a 3 bar blm limit break lmao

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Originally Posted by MurakumoMillennium

Just like how Titan is still visible to be attacked in heart phase right? No? Oh.

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for heart phase they just simplified it. titan gets a unique invincibility called "heart of the earth" during the phase.

So attacks a certain distance from the boss will reflect damage? Or damage from a ranged class will get reflected?


It really isn't a problem for a ranged class to fight in melee.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

just wait for a 3 bar blm limit break lmao

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That doesn't work, you can mage lb T4 all day and lol at no reflect from knights. Plus this probably only affects bards, because otherwise it would say "reflects magical attacks". (Much how knight/soldier worked in the past for T4) If it is for both ranged and magical it would say so.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

Stopping DPS = takes longer to kill. TIME IS GIL, MELEE ONLY.

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Not to mention, how can I have mad parsing deeps yo if I have to stop attacking? I will keep attacking even if it kills me and pisses off my healers because I NEED to win the DPS war.

If this reflect buff is anything like coil's turn 4 soldiers, the damage is reflected back onto the user of the attack, no one else. So no troll killing party, just trollin' yerself. In the case of aoes it seems it's still just reflected back at you.