Given that currently, the bonus is 40 bonus myth by queing as tank for high level roulette, does this mean that the bonus will change to 280 soldiery tomes??? So we will be able to cap out new tomes with a mere 2 roulette runs as tanks? Somehow I think that would make a lot less tanks available...Somehow I doubt this is how it will work, but LOL if true!
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03-22-2014, 01:23 AMDoki"We’ll also be increasing the role bonus to be nearly 7 times more (for tanks)"
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03-22-2014, 01:24 AMAlwryn
No, the myth is just from the duty roulette.
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03-22-2014, 01:26 AMMoheeheekoIf that applies to low lvl tanks then ill be able to lvl stupid fast. Wonderful =D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alwryn
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03-22-2014, 01:26 AMDamienPeters
I am wondering if this is just for tanks, I think the bonus is going up for the job in need ? which yes generally is always tanks however it might not be after this.
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03-22-2014, 01:35 AMMirakumi
Finally I might be able to convince those 7 tank in fate groups that dungeons are better exp. Always they argued fates were still better - do it!
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03-22-2014, 01:38 AMSendohJinPharos should get better since they are nerfing it. if they didn't people would just bail out when they get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirakumi
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03-22-2014, 02:02 AMC-croftAre they still nerfing? It sounded like they were going to up the drops to DL instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by SendohJin
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03-22-2014, 02:05 AMSendohJin
- Pharos Sirius
Overall difficulty has been adjusted to match that of Copperbell Mines (Hard) and Haukke Manor (Hard).
The number of enemies has been reduced.
The attack power, HP, and behavior of enemies, as well as certain dungeon mechanics have been adjusted.
Symond the Unsinkable's HP has been increased, while the number of zombie war hounds has been decreased.
The attack power and HP of zu cockerels and zu pullets that spawn during the battle with the Zu has been decreased.
The attack power and HP of zombie storm privates that spawn during the battle with Siren has been decreased.
The potency of Siren's abilities, and the duration of their effects have been decreased. -
03-22-2014, 02:13 AMC-croft
Wow.......
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03-22-2014, 02:17 AMStarkiller
New strategy then:
1. Punt leveling my PLD until after 2.2 is live.
2. Focus on leveling my WHM for now.
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03-22-2014, 02:24 AMbaopee
More exp per dungeon for tank jobs = less time to learn their job properly = bunch bad tanks
I am looking forward to it. -
03-22-2014, 02:25 AMAlwrynQuote:
Originally Posted by baopee
I swear, this forum will find fault with anything.
Puppies? Kittens? Curing cancer? Ending world hunger? Come on forums, find fault with these things, don't let me down now. -
03-22-2014, 02:45 AMMoheeheekoExcept that tanks dont even get their full range of abilities till 50, and have the basics down by Brayflox. nice try though.Quote:
Originally Posted by baopee
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03-22-2014, 02:52 AMMindylou
sadly this will not = more tanks or less queue times for any other role.(i see no harm in offering this..but the attempt will fail to improve anything mark my words)
bribing never works.
only thing that possibly could, is complete revamp of party setup for 8 and 24 man content.
design all future content for 1 tank, 2 healers an 5 dps.
wow tried bribing players as well and it never improved queue times for dd or healers...ever. -
03-22-2014, 02:55 AMCrimson-FalconQuote:
Originally Posted by Alwryn
hahahaha
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03-22-2014, 02:56 AMPROBOUND
Are they raising the XL lvl cap? (50-100?) or will that be on expansion?
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03-22-2014, 02:57 AMStarkillerReally? Ever heard of these exp and Gil bonuses for running something called Duty Roulettes? They have had an impact on the que times for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mindylou
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03-22-2014, 03:00 AMQuiz
Hope this includes gil bonus. I do lowbie DR as tank (both 50) for the gil boost :3
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03-22-2014, 03:06 AMAcalaPuppies: shit on floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alwryn
kittens: fck cats who wants those
cancer: you are going to put all big pharma out of business.
hunger: what will you tell kids when they try to waste food
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03-22-2014, 03:08 AMSendohJinit'll get me to go a few times a week. right now i cap Myths on Coil, EX and CT so haven't done a Roulette in weeks. but i'll go do them instead of CTs after the patch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mindylou
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03-22-2014, 03:15 AMWHS
this will not really apply to lower level tanks. It said high level tanks. I don't think were talking xp here.
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03-22-2014, 03:33 AMStarkillerWhat?!? That would make absolutely no sense to me. I think you have misinterpreted the information from today's Live Letter.Quote:
Originally Posted by WHS
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03-22-2014, 03:58 AMAshgarth
Can someone tell me where does it say that this is only for tanks? Because all i see is them saying that the role bonus will be increased, nowhere says it's just for the tank role.
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03-22-2014, 04:09 AMSessurea
So totally gonna make a tank to cash-in on that daily roulette bonus. I guess it might get 50 one day....
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03-22-2014, 04:11 AMBruceyBruceyBangBangIt's for the role bonus specifically, they used Tank as an example because the role bonus is almost always in the tank slot due to how little there are out there queuing for content. Occasionally, at least in my server grouping, you will see healer, but it's rare.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashgarth
Anyway, they were just saying they want to increase the bonus to give tanks incentive to queue up more, but it's not going to be specifically for tanks. It's just going to fix the PROBLEM with tanks. -
03-22-2014, 04:11 AMZumi
People are confusing the role bonus with the daily tome bonus they are not the same thing. You will not get 7x more tomes if you play a tank. You get bonus exp and gil is the only thing you get from the role bonus. At level 50 that is currently 750 gil and 0 exp because you are capped.
So 750 gil x 7 = 5250 gil
That's it a 5250 gil bonus which isn't much gil at all. -
03-22-2014, 04:17 AMShuon
i enjoy running low lvl DR on my tank but i would do it a lot more if:
1) more unique items drop from dungeons (like the foe striker, acolyte, battlemage, calvary, infantry and coliseum sets)
2) boost to tomes (this is controversial. but im just putting it out there without really considering the repercussions xD) -
03-22-2014, 04:20 AMStarkiller
Right but if you are still leveling a tank (my PLD is at 36) then you will get bonus exp and Gil! So running DR Dungeons and Guildhests already provides a nice boost when leveling. This change will make it 7x that! :D
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03-22-2014, 04:23 AMMoheeheekoIt is to those of us sitting on 12kQuote:
Originally Posted by Zumi
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03-22-2014, 04:24 AMZumiFor those of us who have 30m its nothing. Legacy servers have a lot more gil in the economy then fresh servers and the reward does not adjust for server inflation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moheeheeko
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03-22-2014, 04:27 AMMoheeheekoSo because it isn't helpful to 1% of the playerbase it's not helpful at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zumi
Good to know. -
03-22-2014, 04:27 AMZourin
It doesn't sound like the multiplayer applies to the roulette bonus, but the role bonus you get afterwards, the extra cash and experience.
I said it before a while ago, SE is going to have to pay better if they expect me to queue as a tank more than once. If you want shorter queue waits, you need to pay to encourage us to run our roulette, and keep running roulettes. The shortage is because tanks roll their roulette once, then don't rerun because the "reward" isn't very good compared to doing something else for tomestones. -
03-22-2014, 04:28 AMDoki
Hmm, I think I thought about role bonuses wrong, as others have said, they do probably only mean the bonus XP & gil rewards. Still... this will effect tanks far more than other classes, so yay for free gil I suppose.
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03-22-2014, 04:32 AMZourinThe point is to pull more tanks back into roulette queues, but paving the road with easy tomestones would have been a horrible decision. You may see *slightly* faster queues as cash-starved tanks play around with the new incentives, but most tanks are going to chase after Mythology/Soldiery tokens first and foremost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doki
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03-22-2014, 04:34 AMZumiI agree weather its 750 gil or 5250 gil that won't make me queue more often as a tank. They do not adjust the reward based on server economy because anyone can tell you 5k on a legacy server is almost nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zourin
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03-22-2014, 05:02 AMVelox
people still don't seem to understand the roulette system.
The first time you do a roulette each day (as ANY class/job), you get the following bonuses
+EXP
+Tomes
+Seals
+Gil
This bonus is only awarded once per day
If a certain role is in-demand for a particular roulette (mainly healers or tanks, but sometimes damage dealers), you get the following "in-demand" bonus for queuing as those classes/jobs.
+Gil
+Seals
This bonus is always available, so you can take advantage of it as much as you want , as long as the class/job you're queuing as is eligible for it.
It's just a buff to the CURRENT system, so it would affect any role in demand for that particular thing. It just mainly affects tanks and healers because they tend to be the in-demand roles on the roulette.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashgarth
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03-22-2014, 05:03 AMDamienPetersI said the same thing as well, I belive it is the job in need bonus, that just happens to almost always be tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashgarth
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03-22-2014, 05:08 AMKarnyboy
Prepare for an influx of terrible tanks....
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03-22-2014, 05:09 AMZumiI really doubt people will tank so they can make 5250 gil for a headache of a run. If they don't like tanking 5k isn't going to make them do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karnyboy
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03-22-2014, 06:03 AMAshgarthI'm a terrible tank, i dont even like tanking, but i'll do it for the 5250 gil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zumi
Gotta save up for the 15m house.