Surprised this hasn't been discussed yet - on Relics

Will we lose the original version of our Relics during the Masterworks quest? They made it seem like the Relic is the "base" from which the new weapons will be forged. I sort've want my Relic for vanity potential though and would hate to lose it entirely...

you are just seconds faster than i!..

i was wondering the same thing myself... i kinda hate the look of some of the weapons from geralds masterworks especially the paladin weapons.. they seem more like a downgrade than an upgrade... so i want to be able to make them look like my current curtana relic.. is that possible??

I agree, I really don't like the way the WHM weapon looks.

I like the new weapons... but would be disappointed to loose the relic weapon, likewise for vanity. Wonder if they will allow you to re-quest them?

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Originally Posted by Yahavage

I like the new weapons... but would be disappointed to loose the relic weapon, likewise for vanity. Wonder if they will allow you to re-quest them?

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You can request them now can't you? I don't see why not.

Technically, wouldn't you just be able to create a Glamour Prism of your relic before you turned it in, if you need to?

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Originally Posted by JayCommon

Technically, wouldn't you just be able to create a Glamour Prism of your relic before you turned it in, if you need to?

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you may be on to something there. Just gotta wait and see!

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Originally Posted by JayCommon

Technically, wouldn't you just be able to create a Glamour Prism of your relic before you turned it in, if you need to?

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yes but Prisms are one use only so if you use it on the i100 weapon, you can't use it when you get the i115 weapon.

Can you prism an item with a ...prismed item?

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Originally Posted by Sessurea

Can you prism an item with a ...prismed item?

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Prismception

A potential solution might be to see if you can actually re-quest your Relic once it's consumed by the re-working. That would also provide an avenue for people who don't like the +1 glows to vanity non +1'd relics...

Prisms don't stick around in your inventory waiting to be used to create a look. They're a catalyst that gets used when you smush two items together to make one look like another. If you don't have your relic in your inventory/armoury, you won't be able to glamour another weapon into looking like it.

And I hope we do get to keep them, because the glow on Sphairai Zenith goes so well with my hair and I get to hit things with cat faces.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

yes but Prisms are one use only so if you use it on the i100 weapon, you can't use it when you get the i115 weapon.

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So create more than one?

I don't think they are unique. If the current look of your relic is that important to you this shouldn't be an issue, unless relic look can't be Glamoured (if Allagan can I don't see why Relic can't)

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Originally Posted by Bixby

If you don't have your relic in your inventory/armoury, you won't be able to glamour another weapon into looking like it.

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Source please? It has to be there when initially making the Prism, but why would it need to continue to be in your inventory after the Prism has been created?

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Originally Posted by JayCommon

So create more than one?

Source please? It has to be there when initially making the Prism, but why would it need to continue to be in your inventory after the Prism has been created?

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I think you're misunderstanding the whole glamour process. It's pretty much like binding materia and catalyst. The prism itself is just a consumable catalyst. That's it. There's no armor attached to it or saved on it. You right click a piece of gear, select cast glamour and get taken to a menu where you pick the piece of gear that you would like it to look like from your inventory/armory chest. That projected item is then copied on to the base item and one specific catalyst is consumed.

From the article:

First, ensure that you are in possession of the gear whose appearance you wish to alter (the base item), the gear whose appearance you wish to project (the projected item), and the corresponding glamour prism. Select the base item, then choose Cast Glamour from the subcommand menu.



Also, in general, i don't think it has been confirmed or even stated that the masterwork items are the zodiac weapons. In fact, most of the info we have seem to state that they (masterwork) are rewarded for turning in tomestones, and that the zodiac weapons are upgraded relics, through quest, that will change appearance down the line. Tl;dr masterwork look =/= zodiac look, (unless you glamour it to be so)

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Originally Posted by JayCommon

Source please? It has to be there when initially making the Prism, but why would it need to continue to be in your inventory after the Prism has been created?

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Patch notes.

Omegakiyohime has it right. There's no prism "made" when you're glamouring something. You're just gluing one item's appearance onto another, and the prisms are the glue.

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Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime

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Yeah, I did misunderstand (or maybe just missed this excerpt :p ). Now I understand why it wouldn't be possible if Zodiac consumes the relic. Thanks for clarifying!

Well that's sad. :/ I hate losing access to armor/weapon looks. Sure hope they've thought ahead about this so we don't have to destroy looks we'd rather save...