Many threads are opposing the Vanity Market that Yoshi team want to experiment with. Honestly, I wish them best of luck and millions of dollars. You have to understand if the cash flow decline so is the team working behind the game. They will lay off employees, abuse the current loyal player base and for sure no more big updates every 3-4 months.
This is SE we are talking about, if they are not making budget with substantial profit the management without doubt in my mind will destroy this game we all love. We are currently enjoying awesome updates, responsive & talented team, with enough man power to keep updating any aspect of the game that we don't like or want added.
I understand we are currently paying a lot, especially those of us who must use VPN, but at the end of the day, either that or get ready to quit the game because the only thing that await a game with slower updates than what we have atm is definite slow death.
Honestly, let SE make as much money as they can.
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03-21-2014, 10:06 AMNeoAmonHonestly, let SE make as much money as they can.
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03-21-2014, 10:15 AMJinrya-Geki
So they can follow EA? Make has half-assed game like Call of Duty and charged people for every little thing? Absolutely not.
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03-21-2014, 10:16 AMKiriA500I think even a quarter-assed game would be better than the train wreck that was 1.0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki
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03-21-2014, 10:17 AMJinkoSE have been making half assed games since ... well FFX, excluding ARRQuote:
Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki
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03-21-2014, 10:20 AMNamasuHere we go again with people proclaiming that their FF favorite picks is better than yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinko
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03-21-2014, 10:20 AMJinrya-GekiI felt like 1.0 just before it got shut down was the better game. It had you think more than 2.0 does.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiriA500
Like killing the Giant Buffalo was awesome when you had to knock him down by hitting his legs with enough damage so he would stop aoeing everyone near it. -
03-21-2014, 10:30 AMMaximiliousExcept the fact that EA does NOT make Call of Duty titles...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki
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03-21-2014, 10:38 AMJinrya-GekiMeh, don't really care who makes it. It's the idea that people pay full price for a game that is a copy of the last with only a handful of new features.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximilious
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03-21-2014, 10:42 AMMaximiliousI completely understood your point... but the way you used EA and CoD is just so wrong in so many levels :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki
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03-21-2014, 10:49 AMZeroEx
Wow all of you who are agreeing to this have completely lost it.
You muppets can go play your mediocre games if you want.
But as soon as games start taking shortcuts like evident palette swaps and releasing less content with monthly/weekly caps and not adding enough fun things to do over time it's ggs.... -
03-21-2014, 10:52 AMDoo
S.E has some hardcore fans.
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03-21-2014, 10:54 AMDoubleTCT Brd/Drg & Blm/Whm sets would like to say hi, o an have u seen some of the pics of the new crafted armor, pallette swaps of lower lv gear, and arr has had weekly caps since it released lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ZeroEx
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03-21-2014, 10:54 AMNayto
Ahahahahaha...
No.
You see, SE's direction is like that moment in the Spiderman movie where he has to choose his girlfriend or the kids. It's a constant double edged sword for them whether to make quick profit out of the new players or hang on to existing dedicated players. They obviously need to feel the punishment of the risks they take, it's a cut-throat business after all.
The ramblings you see here on the forums is the result of whatever SE takes because angry customer is an angry customer. You can't save everyone. -
03-21-2014, 11:05 AMFelis
- Server Transfer
- Fantasia
- Name Change
- Retainers (because they promised it since 2010)
- Libra Eorzea Apps (checkin retainers, checking market boards and such stuff with the smartphone)
That is all what should be allowed and not more -
03-21-2014, 11:05 AMMiskaI know this guy, good friends with him actually, and he is a DIE-HARD Final Fantasy Fan! No seriously, if you ask him anything about Final Fantasy, and be ready to listen to the next 20 hours of him rambling about that 1 game you asked a question on before he even gets to the part you are having problems with. He is truly a HARDCORE Fan. He tried to get me to play FFXI when it came out, and for a few years after it came out, because he has seen me in many MMO's doing what I do best, Tanking. And he needed a reliable tank, not reliable in how often I can be on, but reliable as in "Fire and Forget"Quote:
Originally Posted by Doo
Well, even his Super Hardcore FANDOM of Final Fantasy, and he quit playing shortly after 2.1 was released. Even the Hardcore Fans will eventually choose if their Fandom is worth the price they are paying, or pull their money and go elsewhere.
Also Nayto, I like your signature. Made me laugh. -
03-21-2014, 11:15 AMZephyranthes
SE not making enough money from ARR as it is? Really...
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03-21-2014, 01:23 PMjarsactivision makes call of duty, not EAQuote:
Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki
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03-21-2014, 01:49 PMGilgamesh-MerodachExcept that 1.0 had more time to reach that point. 2.0 is still fairly new. Revisit when equal time has passed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki
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03-21-2014, 02:00 PMBeetleRetainers aren't really needed. We only got 1 in 1.0 and only had 50 slots or something at the start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
They should just drop 2nd retainers and just make 1 retainer hold 200 items, sell 40 items, 1 venture option.
If people just need more space toss out your junk or sell it. Most of your crafting mats only go for 10~50gil each anyway.
Your Armor bag is enough space for all your jobs you play for gear. SE just need toget on top of storage stuff for events also.
Also make features to burn through old useless pieces of gear. SB Primal Weapons, Dungeon Gear, etc..
Name change should be free & always option when changing to another server. No need to create another character for it anymore...
Name changes to same server will lead to problems of people that have been ousted by the players on that server.
Fantasia should only be 2.99/4.99. If any higher I wouldnt buy them. -
03-21-2014, 02:08 PMMogiLollllllllll http://youtu.be/Nbn96915etM so this is what you call fun? ok well your very easy to plz what i love most about 1.0 was the standing around or was that a fight? hard to tellQuote:
Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki
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03-21-2014, 02:11 PMAethaerynTwo retainers in 1.0. I still have the same two I had then. Both of my retainers are completely full too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beetle
I run out of armory space all of the time, and I haven't even worked on crafting yet.
Name change is always $10-20 in every MMO I've played except when server transferring IF the target server had another player with the same name.
I would love if Fantasia was $5, but I'd be surprised to see it that cheap. -
03-21-2014, 02:11 PMRaideDuku
Geez, folks. Chicken Little much? Instead of freaking out about it, you could...not buy the stuff? Seriously, Elder Scrolls Online is doing stuff way worse then this, and it's not even out yet. Have to buy the collectors edition to have access to a whole race, and they have mounts for sale in the real money store. Not, like, special mounts. The standard mounts that cost stupid amounts of in game money to buy. Seriously, Fantasia, server transfers, vanity gear, and extra retainers are small popotoes in comparison. When they actually start locking coil sections, instant level 50s, and a playable Moogle race behind paywalls, then we can talk.
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03-21-2014, 02:18 PMBeetle
Gotta love the double dip.
XI still better MMO XD. We only had 1 mount... hard to believe it was a Chocobo. Probably will be another 5 months until we start buying Mounts in this game. -
03-21-2014, 02:44 PMGilgamesh-MerodachI wish that part about having enough space was true. I have all 50s. One retainer alone eats up almost all the space available with mats. (dyes included). The next held potions/one offs/food/event item/things that the armoury don't accept.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beetle
Now as for my backpack space.
All AFs for each crafter/gatherer. All relics.
I carry multiple gears for my PLD/WAR/DRG which I swap to depending on the fight. Parry/Crit/Det/SS etc etc. My bard is quickly following suit as well and is now well on its way to having a second gear set. 2.2, is gonna make it all the more harder.
Item storage, potions, food, untouched nodes mats gathered, a lot!.
When I do clear my space however, they don't all fit into my retainer and what's worse. I can only have 13-15 max slots open at the moment.
I'm not arguing or anything and I mean no offense. Just sharing a thought -
03-21-2014, 06:22 PMIkedaFantasia, server transfers, and a big maybe to extra retainers sure. But the day they add any sort of vanity cash shop is the day the game starts a quick downward spiral to double dipping its customers. I don't give a crap if WoW or any amount of garbage F2P mmos do it. I'm paying the monthly fee and if every bit of vanity, gear, and mounts or content in general in the game isn't available to be earned through gameplay I'm not paying. I pay specifically to keep away from the crappy games that pull that bs.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaideDuku
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03-21-2014, 06:27 PMAndres_Lonegrief
Vanity Market? Where/When did they talk about it?
I tried googling it and reading through different forum's threads but couldn't find anything ... -
03-21-2014, 06:40 PMElvin
P2P + Cash shop doesn't sound good to me.
But I guess as long as it's only retainers and they are no more usefull than now (I mean, if those adventures for retainers are useless) I coud be ok with that. And they can also sell a mount and a pet for one hundred dollars each one if they want to squeeze the most fanatic guys :p -
03-21-2014, 07:17 PMJinrya-GekiBetter music for one thing. And the video you used, I forget by then if they took out the, what was it called again... battle sync? That was actually pretty interesting. And I wasn't pleased easily, black mage felt underpowered fighting monsters high leveled than you at that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mogi
While your at it, why don't you show people the Hard Mode Darnus fight, or the original dungeon bosses that weren't so simple to push over like their 2.0 counterparts. -
03-21-2014, 07:25 PMOMEGAlomania
Absolutely, 100% no. Extra retainers as a paid service has been the first thing that has rubbed me the wrong way, but i'll just not pay it and ignore it. As has been pointed out to me, there is already a tiered sub model so this probably shouldn't bother me as much as it initially did. Regardless, it's the first strike that I have had against the game.
Something like this is taking it way beyond too far. When the Glamours system is being promoted so much and various loot tables have been resigned to only really being useful for that system, that makes Glamours a big part of content that I am already paying for monthly. Circumventing that (or skipping it completely by making items microtransaction only) with microtransactions would be a horrible, horrible move with no other purpose than to milk the customer for whatever extra money they can. I expect this sort of behaviour from a F2P model game, when I am paying a sub I expect IN GAME CONTENT that ISN'T expansions to be included in my sub. And please don't defend it by saying "but suchandsuch a game did it"! Yes, and I don't play them. -
03-21-2014, 08:16 PMZenakuI'll give this to 1.0 tho at least i played every day trying to get darklight and relics Vs now that i only play on mondays and log off.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiriA500
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03-22-2014, 06:07 AMMogiBetter music hmm idk that fighting music sounded like a old dynasty warriors game from the PS2:PQuote:
Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki
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03-22-2014, 06:40 AMRaideDukuSee, I can do it, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ikeda
You basically just agreed to every point I made. It's just that I'm optimistic, and said putting stuff like that in is simply a possibility, wheres you fear its an inevitability. No need to be a jackass about it. -
03-22-2014, 06:49 AMRazzle
If you want to throw money at SE for no reason send them money in mail or something, don't force a cash shop on everyone.
We ALREADY pay to keep all you listed up. There is no reason for cash shop. A big enjoyment for me is to decorate my character, why should I pay more than YOU to enjoy the game?? I already pay the same sub just like you (actually more than you if you're from NA lol) -
03-22-2014, 06:50 AMSessurea
Welcome to MMO forums lol.
I have no problems if they release stuff in a cash shop that doesn't affect in-game balance. The more money they can make, the less likely a f2p change could happen. -
03-22-2014, 08:07 AMjarsthat's a plus?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenaku
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03-22-2014, 08:08 AMKiriA500Congratulations, you fought RNG and lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenaku
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03-22-2014, 08:28 AMNeyasa
You enjoying Final Fantasy 11 remade into Final Fantasy 14 update. Right now they are still in Zilart,COP and Whitegate expansion. It's nothing special in the video I see Diablos as a regular mob with a entire White gate area and it's mobs as expansion. Basically they got 13 years of content to work with and with that game still getting new content who knows. They using FF12 content also and some of 13. They are playing Lady Gaga going through the Madonna decades in a few years time. Anyone that never played before WoW will be amazed of all the old stuff they come up with.
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03-22-2014, 08:54 AMMardelQuote:
Originally Posted by Beetle
Well you won't be buying one then. Any smart business would sell those for $10-15 minimum and that is the common price range in MMO(s) sometimes they are even higher. Losing out a single customer, for fantasia, isn't a big deal most when the majority will be:
A) Satisfied with their character and never change it.
B) Want to change it no matter what.
So what reason do they have to sell it cheap? May as well capitalize on those who will buy it regardless. -
03-22-2014, 09:09 AMGramul
Have you considered just forwarding your paycheck to the company?
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03-22-2014, 09:10 AMJinkoI never proclaimed any such thing, your opinion is your own. ... just as mine is :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Namasu