Anyone else having Free Company points trouble?

I'm not really sure what I can do better. I've organized Treasure Hunts, we all do dungeons regularly, we all cap every week, do CT, do Coil, everything. In the end, we can't keep up with point consumption. We're going negative here. Even dropping down to 1 level 1 buff a day.

The problem stems from this being a fairly new FC, but even with 15-30 active people(90 member count, it swings), we're mostly all level capped. So there's no quests to do, and FATE grinding has came to a near-halt so there's no large income from there either.

I think it really only effects FCs made post-fate-grind and with everyone who's in here already having 50s. I mean we pulled together, have a medium house, have coil statics, we are on and active, it's not enough.

Has a dev or anything commented on FC points and their accrual and perhaps increase? I feel like if we get increased points from Dungeons, Primals, and Coil run commensurate with the number of 50s in FCs now, it'll really help a lot.

I wouldn't say it's post fate grind be cuz my FC of 23 has been around since beta end, and we are rank 8, but we are having the same trouble, something feels different about the amounts gained verse used I don't remember such drastic fall in points and we've also switched back to using 1 lvl ability to save points but hasn't seem to help. So not sure....

Well I think the main point incomes were from FATE grinding but more than that, quests. Quests have more or less dried up because we all have 50s or multiple 50s and no more quests to do aside from dailies. So even if you level another job, you're not getting that sweet sweet quest point income. I've leveled a whole other character but the benefits aren't great enough to merit it and it just really shouldn't be this difficult to accrue points haha. I feel like the system really needs a little boost.

Do more crafting?

They said that they were investigating new ways to accrue points, but did not give an ETA. We're in the same boat as you all, so I understand your pain. Hang in there!

The daily quests do add quite a bit of points, so don't discount those. even if you're level and rep capped, it helps a lot.

We have over 100 members and we're in the same boat, finally starting to run low. Several players gather and craft all the time but without the fate grind, it's not enough. Seriously hoping they add new ways to accumulate points or weight things like dungeon runs and crafting/gathering a bit higher.

Already made a thread for you way back,

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ompany-Credits

Funny how some people didn't agree back then. LOL!

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Originally Posted by mero-ix

Do more crafting?

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Nope, last time I check it's a 1:1 ratio for crafting, and same goes for Gathering, 1 node : 1 credit.

My FC has been having problems for at least a month now keeping our points up.

However, I do believe that Yoshi-P did state somewhere that they were going to fix this in 2.2 and allow points to be gained through endgame content. (Too lazy to find it.)

My FC is also facing this issue. We're typically about 10-15/47 active most of the time except the extreme off hours.

As soon as we hit rank 8 with the ability to use two second-tier bonuses at the same time we saw that our points were being spent far faster than they were coming in. We attempted to focus our efforts to make sure we didn't run out. For example, we had a ongoing party that we referred to as a 'crafting party' in which every single member who was crafting or gathering or doing something that could be solo'd while in a party would party up to earn points. We would also try to do every CT and primal and dungeon with as many FC members as possible, etc. Even with all that, the best we could manage was barely break even with almost all of our effort put towards it. In short, it was not anywhere close to being a stable solution. When the higher FC ranks came out we had almost 500,000 points saved up, but now we have 138,071. It won't be much longer until we're literally out.

I feel that the gains were balanced decently well, if slightly on the generous side, for the first 5 ranks we had. The addition of buying twice the bonuses at a higher cost per bonus wasn't mitigated by increasing point gains or giving additional ways to earn points, however.

I went on a crafting binged and HQ'd a whole stack of Buttons and a whole stack of Eggs. Seriously, it didn't increase much at all and that was a HUGE time investment haha. I'm glad to see we're not alone. I really hope they increase end-game gains.

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Originally Posted by Kuraiholy

I went on a crafting binged and HQ'd a whole stack of Buttons and a whole stack of Eggs. Seriously, it didn't increase much at all and that was a HUGE time investment haha. I'm glad to see we're not alone. I really hope they increase end-game gains.

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If you craft while in a party with FC members, you'll get more points. I agree it's still not enough to keep up, though.

Oh really? I didn't know that. Maybe I can get a couple people and provide mats and all of us get raid food going or something haha. Still doesn't feel like it'd be enough though.

Does anyone have a link to where this has been discussed by a dev or anyone? Someone made mention but didn't know where he read it.

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Originally Posted by Thorauku

Nope, last time I check it's a 1:1 ratio for crafting, and same goes for Gathering, 1 node : 1 credit.

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Pretty sure it takes HQ synths and gathering to get a point. It's not 1:1, it's just 1:1 when you have 3(?) or more people online in the FC. If you are the only one online in the FC, I think you get 3 per HQ synth/gather.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

Pretty sure it takes HQ synths and gathering to get a point. It's not 1:1, it's just 1:1 when you have 3(?) or more people online in the FC. If you are the only one online in the FC, I think you get 3 per HQ synth/gather.

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Then it's much worse if it needs HQ to get a point.

I can't recall correctly, but we're 2 online at that time.

Holy crap that's bad. Even if we had everyone gathering HQ all day, we still wouldn't get enough. Also takes from enjoying the game just to get points for buffs hahaha. Hope they do something soon.

I keep hoping for something this Friday. Everyone hope with me! haha

I was only one connected in my FC, crafting around lvl 40 mat (don't remember exactly) and I checked and got 12 points per HQ.
It is level dependent, I crafted something in the 20-30s and i got 9 points per HQ

I have to do more testing :)

just recruit bots

I made a list of stuff that gives you points.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...o_i_found_any/

Note that this is when solo. When more than 1 FC member is online, you get less points.

Free Company I am in is in this predicament as well. Seems all the buffs use more than we are able to acquire. I keep trying to get people to group up to do things but its a lost cause. Apparently plans have been made to do group content once 2.2 is released to help regain some credits but honestly I feel we should have been doing groups outside of static coils and random feel like doing ct groups. Such is life :)

They should make it so that duty finder activities add to points as well. Especially since there's such a push for people doing EX primals, and Coil.

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Originally Posted by Autumnfire

They should make it so that duty finder activities add to points as well. Especially since there's such a push for people doing EX primals, and Coil.

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Exactly, and a significant amount of points too! I mean on average, it's an entire FC group working together to beat a giant boss, if points are akin to "reputation" or like a payment of services from a GC in-game, what would earn more than defeating primals and such? It's what most of the in-game story is about! It'd also give more reason for people in the FC to work together and down primals as a team rather than going through and doing pick up groups and pugs. I mean if you get a lot of points for primals, it'd be way easier to schedule them and make it a weekly thing for more than just the established statics within the FC

Moar stuff, please!

I believe part of the problem is related to how much longer fates seem to be taking to complete in some areas. CPP for instance, it use to be you'd be in and out in a minute for maybe 75% of the fates. You could barely even get to the fate before it was over. So you were getting 200-300 ever couple minutes or so, depending on the pop time on the fates. Also you could do Gorgi' consistently, and it wouldn't take long at all. But now, most fates are taking 5-7 minutes to complete. And now its really easy to miss some fates because the fates are up so long groups are spread out doing different ones. So you may miss out on one fate. Or due to people leaving after doing there share(doing one combo) and they move on to the next fate and complete it before you even get over to the next.

Besides the FATE issues, there def should be seals coming in at other places, like what has already been mentioned in this thread. And we do know SE is planning to resolve that problem soon. I wish we knew exactly how soon. It feels like we need to revert back to using the cheaper FC actions for a time, until we can get caught up, then use the stronger ones, and just repeat that process >_>. I think a quick fix, if they are looking for one, is to simply increase the number of seals we get for doing our day to day activities. Double it in fates, give it to every mini-boss in dungeons, increase the turn in for green and pink items, give us more delivery quests for crafting/gathering, or increase the number of times we can turn in the requested item, orrr simply increase the reward. Could also increase how many items you can hand in. And adjust the reward with how many you actually turned in, oh ya also forgot, make it where this kind of a hand in actually effects FC points. I'm fairly certain it doesn't.

Also just thought about this one. For increasing fate seals, they could make it change based on the strength of the FATE. For the very base level, say the fate repopped when no one was there, so its easily solo-able. Give that FATE the reward we can get now. But have the reward increase along with the difficulty increase, based on players.

I know I kinda was talking about the seals reward, but I was assuming that was a indicator of how much it would effect FC points. But I'm thinking maybe not.

Haha I just started a thread about this too.

I think what really happened is before rank 2 actions (plus having 2 at the same time active) - there simply wasn't enough stuff to spend credits on. Our FC had like 300,000 credits when we got to rank 8 - now at like 20,000 lol. I think a lot of it has to do with quite a few people leveling up prior to new actions - now most of our members are at 50 and aren't grinding anymore - plus the additional expense of rank 2 (x2 actions).. Less income + More Spending = Broke lol

For right now I've advised our officers to just buy the rank 1 actions until we get a nice cushion again. Then we will rotate rank 2 actions with rank 1 to cut back on spending a bit.

The guide to points posted is great. It kinda sucks that it goes down the more that's online, maybe even removing that would be a huge step to fixing it.


We're doing just level 1 teleport buff right now, it sucks. We were able to do two level 1 buffs per day, even that would be great. But at 6k a day like that and our income is nowhere near that. I think our income right now is barely 3k.

To an extent, what's the point of the point system? I mean more active FCs get more points and can have more buffs, so if you have a small FC you just kinda suffer? I'm starting to question if it's a necessary system at all right now. I guess it incentivizes being online and doing things in general, so I guess I see that, but right now it's undertuned. Can't get enough done as a group at the moment to keep buffs up, which is a major reason to be in a FC at all. Otherwise, you can just use a linkshell for anything social and be done with it.

same boat :L

I would like to say my Fc is in the same boat as the rest of ya'll, but its not, right now I have 1.3 million Fc Seals, yes several months ago I was almost at 2mil.

While I do agree something must be done about this issue, My Fc wont be in danger of running out any time soon.

I kind of feared about that as well. When we reached rank 8, we went a bit happy on spending some credits for double FC buffs and such, till 1 week later, I kind of noticed the credits going so low... Since then, I'm only popping one rank1 buff at a time. :s

Hope these credits were earned easier and more.

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You will definitely end up in the same boat unless changes are made or you take preventative action now. Presumably you started losing more than gaining when the T2 and double buffs were released. If that's the case that was, 2 months ago? Something like that? So then you're 700k points down from just 2 months. You'll end up cratering at that rate. I mean your numbers alone are staggering. The FC I'm running was born from one where the leader went insane and booted most of us for suspicion of a coup or something batty. Which just made EVERYONE leave and join the new FC we made and him disbanding the old one haha. That FC had over a million points and I have often lamented the loss of it. Now I see that wouldn't really have saved us at all if they can be blown through THAT quickly.

Maybe they heard us!

GC Expert Delivery/provisioning:
Players will now earn free company credits for delivering items.
Players will now earn free company credits for delivering items.

General Quality of Life improvements:
The amount of free company credits received for free company member actions has been increased.
The amount of free company credits received for treasure hunts has been increased.