Unoriginal topic but... Limit Break ideas

Just going to be blunt and just toss some ideas in here and see what everyone thinks.

Everyone knows that the Tank, Healer, and DPS has a Limit Break they can do but what if we broke it down to each class?

**EDIT**
3/11/2014 :
Please don't take these seriously, these are just ideas. Nothing more.
And please, lets try not to degrade anyone on this thread sense we are passing ideas.

TANK
Gladiator:
[LB1] Mighty Swing
A wide swing that deals 2300 damage and hits a single target that puts enmity against the enemy.

[LB2] Lion's Roar
Enemies nearby are drawn to you but you have an increase to inflict enmity on a enemy and a 30% increase to DEF + VIT for 20 seconds

[LB3] Elephant Charge
In a short straight line, you charge into enemies dealing 9000 damage and forces the enemy to attack you for 5 seconds.

Marauder:
[LB1] Reckless Swing
You swing your ax at a single target dealing 2300 damage and places enmity on a enemy.

[LB2] Grand Strike
you slam your ax into the ground splitting the earth under yourself dealing 5000 damage against surrounding enemies, places enmity on enemies and stuns them for 3 seconds.

[LB3] Last Stand
You increase your DEF and ATK by 50% for 20 seconds and provoke all the enemies around you but you are stunned for 30 seconds afterwards.

Paladin:
[LB1] Blinding Light
Enemies around you in a large radius are blinded for 15 seconds and have enmity while they also take 400 holy damage over time for 5 seconds

[LB2] Guardian Angel
Allies DEF increase by 20% for 5 seconds and skill speed for yourself is increased.

[LB3] Sacred Aura
The DEF of the party is increased by 20%, increases the healing done by healing spells by 30% for the entire party, and places enmity on all the enemies in the area.

Warrior:
[LB1] Demonic Slash
Deals 2300 damage to an enemy and places enmity as well as stunning the target for 3 seconds.

[LB2] Hell's Fury
Deals 3500 damage to all enemies around you and places enmity on them and silences them for 1 second.

[LB3] Underworld Prison
For 15 seconds, your DEF increases by 20% and every enemy around you are forced to attack you and each time they deal damage to you they take 800 damage.

HEALER
Conjurer / White Mage:
[LB1] Healing Wind
Restores 25% of own HP and the HP of all nearby party members.

[LB2] Breath of the Earth
Restores 60% of own HP and the HP of all nearby party members.

[LB3] Pulse of Life
Restores 100% of own HP and the HP of all nearby party members including ones KO'd.

Scholar:
[LB1] Bubble Shield
Erects a magicked barrier for the party which nullifies damage equaling to 25% of the characters HP for 30 seconds.

[LB2] Fairy Guard
Erects a magicked barrier for the party which nullifies damage equaling to 50% of the characters HP for 40 seconds.

[LB3] Blessings of Nym
Erects a magicked barrier for the party which nullifies damage equaling to 100% of the characters HP for 60 seconds and increases HP restored by healing magic for Party Members by 20%.

DPS
Pugilist:
[LB1] Crouching Tiger
Does 2300 damage to an enemy and increases basic attack speed and skill speed by 20% for 10 seconds.

[LB2] Hidden Dragon
Deals 5000 damage to an enemy and augments your attacks with mystical fire that deals 1500 more damage if attacking an enemy from behind for 15 seconds.

[LB3] All Out Attack
Deals 9000 to an enemy and if you are behind them, you deal 2000 more damage and stuns them for 5 seconds

Lancer:
[LB1] Boomerang Lance
Throw your spear to deal 2300 damage to an enemy and stunning them for 3 seconds, then your spear returns to you.

[LB2] Sonic Thrust
Dash towards an enemy at high speed dealing 5000 damage and dealing 200 per second for 5 seconds.

[LB3] The Rose of Chaos
Deals 9000 to an enemy and binds them in place for 10 seconds. If you are behind the enemy, deals an extra 2000 damage and poisons the enemy dealing 100 damage per second for 15 seconds.

Archer:
[LB1] Magitek Crossbow
Your bow transforms into a special crossbow that will fire an arrow that will pierce through enemies in a straight line dealing 1400 to any enemy caught in it's path.

[LB2] Arrow Storm
You fire a special magical arrow into the sky which will then break apart and arrows will then fall down in the selected area dealing 3000 damage to each enemy inside of the radius.

[LB3] 9000 Needles
You unleash a torrent of arrows at a single target dealing 9000 damage to them and dealing 100 damage per second for 10 seconds.

Thaumaturge / Black Mage:
[LB1] Skyshard
Deals elementally neutral damage with a potency of 1400 to all enemies near point of impact.

[LB2] Starstorm
Deals elementally neutral damage with a potency of 3000 to all enemies near point of impact.

[LB3] Meteor
Deals elementally neutral damage with a potency of 5400 to all enemies near point of impact.

Arcanist:
[LB1] Bio Bubble
Deals 150 unaspected damage for 10 seconds to all enemies within the selected area.

[LB2] Unholy Plague
Deals 500 unaspected damage for 10 seconds to all enemies within the selected area.

[LB3] Morbols Breath
Deals 800 unaspected damage for 10 seconds and inflicts paralysis, silence, sleep, and blind for 20 seconds to all enemies within the selected area.


Summoner:
[LB1] Unlocked Potential
Increases pet abilities based on the egi summoned.
//Ifrit- increases attack by 20% //Garuda- Increases magic damage by 20% //Titan- Increases Enmity towards enemies//

[LB2] Purge the Land
Increases pet abilities based on the egi summoned.
//Ifrit- increases attack by 50% //Garuda- Increases magic damage by 50% //Titan- Increases Enmity towards enemies and increases DEF by 30%//

[LB3] We are One
For 20 seconds, you fuse with your summoned egi and grant yourself different abilities.
//Ifrit- Your blood runs with the fires of Ifrit, dealing 500 damage per second to any enemy around you while granting you the skill set "Ifrit" which specializes in burning the enemy alive.
//Garuda- Your blood runs with the royal air of Garuda herself, increasing spell speed and spell damage by 50% and increasing your dodge rate by 20% while granting you the skill set "Garuda" which bestows you the power of the wind itself as you tear up any enemy that faces you.
//Titan- Your blood runs with the fury of the earth of Titan, while increasing your DEF and VIT by 60%, you also force the enemies around you to attack you while granting you the skill set "Titan" which bestows you the power to attack any enemies around you dealing massive damage and pushing them away.//

Dragoon:
[LB1] Dragon Talons
You leap over an enemy and throw your spear down at the enemy dealing 2300 to them.

[LB2] Supersonic Dive
You jump high up into the sky and then come crashing down on top of an enemy with your spear dealing 5000 damage and stuns them for 3 seconds.

[LB3] Legacy of the Dragoon
You focus a mystical energy into your spear and then you jump even higher into the sky than before and you come crashing down like a meteor on top of your enemy dealing 9000 damage and 300 damage per second for 5 seconds.

Bard:
[LB1] Strings of War
Increases party members Skill and Spell speed by 20% for 10 seconds.

[LB2] Flight of the Bumblebee
Increases party members Skill and Spell speed by 50% for 20 seconds.

[LB3] The Devils Tune
Increases party members Skill and Spell speed by 60% for 20 seconds and restores all MP and TP of all party members.

Monk:
[LB1] Poisonous Snake
You strike the enemy like a snake dealing 2300 to an enemy and dealing 150 damage per second for 5 seconds

[LB2] Fists of Wukong
you attack the enemy multiple times dealing 5000 damage while blinding them for 5 seconds and silencing them for 1 second.

[LB3] The Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique
Does 9000 damage to an enemy and deals 500 damage per second for 8 seconds.

Very cool. Only if everyone in a party can use it, not one person per bar. Ya know what I mean?

You are creating the very problem that they want to avoid. You clearly have several jobs that do similar LB, but one is clearly better (as they are not the same) and everyone will only let in parties the job with the best LB.

MNK -
[LB1] E. Honda's rapid slap
[LB2] Dragon punch
[LB3] http://i58.tinypic.com/25updlj.jpg

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

You are creating the very problem that they want to avoid. You clearly have several jobs that do similar LB, but one is clearly better (as they are not the same) and everyone will only let in parties the job with the best LB.

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like I said, these are just ideas just to think about.
I wasn't really making an attempt to balance them that much sense it took up so much time just writing it down.
Only trying to make a LB to "could" fit into the class theme.

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Originally Posted by ThunderTopaz

like I said, these are just ideas just to think about.
I wasn't really making an attempt to balance them that much sense it took up so much time just writing it down.
Only trying to make a LB to "could" fit into the class theme.

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I think his point is that no matter what, there will always be one limit break that is unanimously the best. Sure, some will be really good in certain situations, but otherwise it'll still be the same __ class always does LB based on if it's single target or aoe target needed.

I love the idea of varied LBs. What we have now is a bit boring and somewhat nonsensical (bard gets healers LB?).

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Originally Posted by Lurkios

I love the idea of varied LBs. What we have now is a bit boring and somewhat nonsensical (bard gets healers LB?).

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Have you looked at a real bard? (e.g. the one in the moogle mog fight) Out of the 4, that is the most reasonable. What needs to change is the archer LB, not bard.

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

Have you looked at a real bard? (e.g. the one in the moogle mog fight) Out of the 4, that is the most reasonable. What needs to change is the archer LB, not bard.

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This thread isn't about the existing limit breaks, it's about creating new, individual ones for each class/job.

After playing this for more than 6 months now, I am confident to say that the biggest issue to change with Limit Breaks is the fact that they are shared by the whole group.

99% of the time, the only person even allowed to utilize their LB is your DRG or MNK, and for this reason every group doing difficult content makes it a point to have at least one of these jobs.

As for the other Limit breaks, just about the only time a tank is ever allowed to use theirs is in the Hard Ultima fight, and casters only get to use theirs in Hard Ifrit, or on the rare event that your team simply does not have a MNK or DRG to use theirs.

Healers and bards are simply not allowed to use theirs pretty much ever. In the rare event that it does look like a good idea to use a healing limit break, it's not. Even when you revive the whole team, they all get res sickness, and die shortly after because of it.

Limit Breaks do need to change. They do NOT need to be individual to the player, but we do need separate LB bars for each of the four types of LBs. The healing LB needs to revive people without giving them res sick.

Those limit breaks are horribly balanced and I think that's sort of inevitable however you go about trying to make job specific LBs. PLD's first two limit breaks are effectively DPS breaks since a 20% DEF boost is next to worthless (ask any tank about Foresight) and WAR limit breaks are explicitly DPS breaks. In contrast, the SCH LB2 would effectively make the party invincible for its duration.

No, I would rather the current system, thanks. I don't entirely get why people are so unhappy about LBs, it's not like it's this great privilege for the DPS classes! Once or twice in an encounter, you try to find a time when you're safe from AoEs and then press a button...I guess casters get to aim it as well? People spam "lb plz" in the chat even though you're just putting your DoTs up before the LB cast to maximize DPS since you know it can't be one-shotted with the LB. It's supposed to be something you have specifically to help you overcome one mechanic or two as a party and nothing more.

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Originally Posted by Synra

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Right because people never use ranged and this is the reason. Oh wait... Incentives to use melee are needed with all the "ranged only" parties that are formed. I'm pretty sure the game developers intend for every group to carry a melee, so why is this a problem?

I come back and already so much hate.
Like I said, these are just ideas, it's not like I was serious with it.
I'm personally fine with how the LB is set up right now.