90k and random lag with disconnects

Entire CT raid is getting random DCs, lag, and 90k login errors! Seems to be very widespread.

Cactaur now reports a 6,577 person queue!!!

Same issue on Moogle, twice iv been disconnected now and I've been playing fine all day, just completed a quest duty then popped into a hard one and 90k with disconnects and I'm not the only one in my party with the issue.

Sargatanas - same.

I would assume this is happening across all words.

Cause same thing is happening on Cerb too.

Emergency maintenance anyone? :C

Moogle the same.

Two LS members are lagging like crazy in DF. Even outside its so bad that max 1/3 of the skills go through. Im just waiting to get d/ced after alls these "micro"lags

Phoenix- Same problem just wanted to start coil 0.o ....

Shiva, too.

We just wanted to give T5 a few more tries.. GGWP Square.. <_<

Adamantoise is getting this too, been trying to get into dungeons all day and whenever I get in I get 90k then I'am blocked from getting back in for 10 mins with 3102 and then finaly kicks me off with 2002 before starting the 3102 scenario off again.

Tried to log in 3 times and what do you know, receiving hits 0 about 3 minutes after being logged and get 90k.

I just got off the phone with a square tech about my 90k that happens every half hour. They insisted it was my connection, even though my ISP confirmed that nothing is wrong with it, no interference no throttling ect. Funny thing is, been playing for about a month and this just started the other day, and it never happens with any other games just ARR. This just doesn't add up to me, and I feel helpless like I can't fix it. If it continues I will probably cancel my account :(

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Originally Posted by Contego

I just got off the phone with a square tech about my 90k that happens every half hour. They insisted it was my connection, even though my ISP confirmed that nothing is wrong with it, no interference no throttling ect. Funny thing is, been playing for about a month and this just started the other day, and it never happens with any other games just ARR. This just doesn't add up to me, and I feel helpless like I can't fix it. If it continues I will probably cancel my account :(

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If it happens that regularly, it's probably on your own network the problem is.
Could be in-between ISP and SE, but regular disconnects like that points to your own network, or your ISP, despite what they claim.

I never lag or disconnect from Guild Wars2, Planetside 2, or any other mmo I play? I just don't understand why this game is the only one that does this.

3 Whole Raid teams just got 90K'ed twice within 5 minutes attempting Coil on Cerberus :<

yup our raid team 90kéd aswell 2 times at t4 ... squire enix fix this stuff because its very annoying...

Just DC'd from t5 after the loot screen, i couldn't exit the raid so the win din't count for my achievement....

3 consecutive 90ks in T4 Odin Server. Same group everyone was kicked. Around the 3rd dread phase. Not cool. And we never ever get 90ks

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Originally Posted by Contego

I never lag or disconnect from Guild Wars2, Planetside 2, or any other mmo I play? I just don't understand why this game is the only one that does this.

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Well... their servers aren't located in Canada for starters. GW2 is Texas, Planetside 2 is California and Virginia.

Trace to an IP listed for Planetside's Jaeger server (Virginia):

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Tracing route to abepsn-liv-gw01.planetside2.com [199.108.194.38]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  LPTSRV [10.10.100.1]
  2  1397 ms  2936 ms  187 ms  cpe-098-025-064-001.sc.res.rr.com [98.25.64.1]
  3    12 ms    11 ms    11 ms  cpe-024-031-198-005.sc.res.rr.com [24.31.198.5]
  4    23 ms    26 ms    28 ms  24.93.64.124
  5    31 ms    31 ms    30 ms  107.14.19.20
  6    30 ms    31 ms    30 ms  107.14.19.133
  7    30 ms    32 ms    39 ms  tge15-3.fr3.iad.llnw.net [69.28.158.181]
  8    41 ms    29 ms    32 ms  sony.ge4-12.fr3.iad.llnw.net [68.142.111.254]
  9    42 ms    41 ms    40 ms  abepsn-liv-gw01.planetside2.com [199.108.194.38]

Trace complete.

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Now here's a trace to the IP I use for Midgard in FFXIV (Montreal, Canada):

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Tracing route to 199.91.189.25 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    2 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  LPTSRV [10.10.100.1]
  2  516 ms  1198 ms    66 ms  cpe-098-025-064-001.sc.res.rr.com [98.25.64.1]
  3    13 ms    11 ms    11 ms  cpe-024-031-198-005.sc.res.rr.com [24.31.198.5]
  4    24 ms    22 ms    26 ms  xe-7-0-0.rlghncpop-rtr1.southeast.rr.com [24.93.64.40]
  5    31 ms    30 ms    30 ms  107.14.19.44
  6    82 ms    29 ms    31 ms  ae-2-0.pr0.dca10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.169]
  7    34 ms    33 ms    38 ms  te0-16-0-23.ccr41.iad02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10.209]
  8    34 ms    34 ms    38 ms  be2176.ccr21.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.41.54]
  9    39 ms    40 ms    41 ms  be2151.mpd22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.74]
 10    43 ms    44 ms    44 ms  be2106.ccr21.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.3.50]
 11    66 ms    66 ms    66 ms  be2088.ccr21.ymq02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.17]
 12    53 ms    53 ms    54 ms  38.122.42.34
 13    44 ms    45 ms    46 ms  192.34.76.10
 14    43 ms    44 ms    46 ms  199.91.189.242
 15    44 ms    46 ms    46 ms  199.91.189.25

Trace complete.

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The point is that you are dealing with unique routing for each one, and each can take vastly different paths, and thus can be subject to vastly different shaping issues. In this case, some key corridors leading to the limited entry points into Montreal have been having issues keeping up with the increased traffic. This can further compound issues SE has been having with some of their servers.

Fortunately, we've been able to get them to clean up a large part of our routing through the cogentco segments. That portion of our routing was once consistently breaking the 200ms mark and stalling a lot. They moved us to Level3 for while (which was a nightmare), but eventually they got us back into the much cleaner Cogent deal we are now using. Just can't get them to address that primary gateway yet at 98.25.64.1. When it's acting up like it is in these traces, the skip is really bad. When it's clean though, you'd be hard pressed to notice any lag until you hit instanced content (which is where SE is having the real trouble atm).

Happening a lot to me too :(

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Originally Posted by Raist

Well... their servers aren't located in Canada for starters. GW2 is Texas, Planetside 2 is California and Virginia.

Trace to an IP listed for Planetside's Jaeger server (Virginia):

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Tracing route to abepsn-liv-gw01.planetside2.com [199.108.194.38]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  LPTSRV [10.10.100.1]
  2  1397 ms  2936 ms  187 ms  cpe-098-025-064-001.sc.res.rr.com [98.25.64.1]
  3    12 ms    11 ms    11 ms  cpe-024-031-198-005.sc.res.rr.com [24.31.198.5]
  4    23 ms    26 ms    28 ms  24.93.64.124
  5    31 ms    31 ms    30 ms  107.14.19.20
  6    30 ms    31 ms    30 ms  107.14.19.133
  7    30 ms    32 ms    39 ms  tge15-3.fr3.iad.llnw.net [69.28.158.181]
  8    41 ms    29 ms    32 ms  sony.ge4-12.fr3.iad.llnw.net [68.142.111.254]
  9    42 ms    41 ms    40 ms  abepsn-liv-gw01.planetside2.com [199.108.194.38]

Trace complete.

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Now here's a trace to the IP I use for Midgard in FFXIV (Montreal, Canada):

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Tracing route to 199.91.189.25 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    2 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  LPTSRV [10.10.100.1]
  2  516 ms  1198 ms    66 ms  cpe-098-025-064-001.sc.res.rr.com [98.25.64.1]
  3    13 ms    11 ms    11 ms  cpe-024-031-198-005.sc.res.rr.com [24.31.198.5]
  4    24 ms    22 ms    26 ms  xe-7-0-0.rlghncpop-rtr1.southeast.rr.com [24.93.64.40]
  5    31 ms    30 ms    30 ms  107.14.19.44
  6    82 ms    29 ms    31 ms  ae-2-0.pr0.dca10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.169]
  7    34 ms    33 ms    38 ms  te0-16-0-23.ccr41.iad02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10.209]
  8    34 ms    34 ms    38 ms  be2176.ccr21.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.41.54]
  9    39 ms    40 ms    41 ms  be2151.mpd22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.74]
 10    43 ms    44 ms    44 ms  be2106.ccr21.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.3.50]
 11    66 ms    66 ms    66 ms  be2088.ccr21.ymq02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.17]
 12    53 ms    53 ms    54 ms  38.122.42.34
 13    44 ms    45 ms    46 ms  192.34.76.10
 14    43 ms    44 ms    46 ms  199.91.189.242
 15    44 ms    46 ms    46 ms  199.91.189.25

Trace complete.

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The point is that you are dealing with unique routing for each one, and each can take vastly different paths, and thus can be subject to vastly different shaping issues. In this case, some key corridors leading to the limited entry points into Montreal have been having issues keeping up with the increased traffic. This can further compound issues SE has been having with some of their servers.

Fortunately, we've been able to get them to clean up a large part of our routing through the cogentco segments. That portion of our routing was once consistently breaking the 200ms mark and stalling a lot. They moved us to Level3 for while (which was a nightmare), but eventually they got us back into the much cleaner Cogent deal we are now using. Just can't get them to address that primary gateway yet at 98.25.64.1. When it's acting up like it is in these traces, the skip is really bad. When it's clean though, you'd be hard pressed to notice any lag until you hit instanced content (which is where SE is having the real trouble atm).

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Thanks for clearing that up for me, seems to make more sense than what everyone else is telling me and you're definitely right about the instances being worse, I can actually expect to be 90k'ed at around the same time interval every dungeon I try to do.

Getting 90k as well on Behemoth. 3 Times tonight all while in instances.

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Originally Posted by KiriLuze

Getting 90k as well on Behemoth. 3 Times tonight all while in instances.

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Same here, just got my 3rd dc with 90k. I was on the last boss of CT every time. Annoying. I'm done for the night.

Maybe it's just because all the people posting here are posting in english, but I'm seeing that all of the NA/EU Data Centers are having this issue tonight. At least in the last hour.
This post would lead me to think that it was only the Primal Data Center experiencing it, but we have people in this thread from Chaos and Aether also claiming entire groups being 90 k'd.
So what exactly was done during the 3 hour maintenance last night?


Edit: Disregard, I just noticed that only the posts starting on the 3rd page here are from today, and they are on the Primal DC.

Same problem for me....
Server: Excalibur

Yep yep - same deal here. Wasn't experiencing any lag or 90k-related stuff until after the maint on 3/2. Now I can't play...AGAIN. This is starting to get agonizingly old.

Not sure my issue is entirely related to this but pretty much since I got the game in the end of February I've been getting random Error 90k.
They come out of the blue anywhere between 10 minutes a 3 hours apart. They're not accompanied by any lag, everything runs smoothly and then suddenly black screen with the 90k message.

It's starting to get very annoying as I can't really tank or heal dungeons and raids because I never know when the next disconnect is gonna be. Nothing else is affected either so it has to be server side, no other program I'm running that use my network has any issues.

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Originally Posted by LinkToReality

Not sure my issue is entirely related to this but pretty much since I got the game in the end of February I've been getting random Error 90k.
They come out of the blue anywhere between 10 minutes a 3 hours apart. They're not accompanied by any lag, everything runs smoothly and then suddenly black screen with the 90k message.

It's starting to get very annoying as I can't really tank or heal dungeons and raids because I never know when the next disconnect is gonna be. Nothing else is affected either so it has to be server side, no other program I'm running that use my network has any issues.

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If you include everything between you and SE's datacenter as "server side", sure... Even with SE confirming there exists a problem, it may not be on the actual servers... could be on the network side of things (SE's network or their upstream provider).
Just saying...

Canctaur sever here...

Ever since I got my new Alienware PC a few months ago I haven't had a single 90k (no lie). BUT... ever since 2.2 patch I have had random 90k or disconnect on avrg of once a day. Today though... the game is unplayable. Can't stay logged in for more than a minute and I get 90k after getting hit with massive lag.

I started doing some ping testing and there is major packet loss and it spikes between 25%-100% loss. That was first thing this early A.M. but now there is 0% packet loss and 49ms avrg speed but 90k still happening every minute or so. There is defiantly something going on server side. I have no problem with anything else using internet. Netflix, youtube, etc. all work just fine. Ping tests to other sites pass with flying colors as well. Hopefully this gets resolved with maintenance.

Faerie Server:

my character's being kicked out almost every 2-5 minutes in our new home in the Lavender Bed for past hour or so.

I thought it was just only me.

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Originally Posted by Vynym

Emergency maintenance anyone? :C

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I would welcome this as soon as possible. Longstop HM and Ifrit HM for my roulettes were almost impossible since the lag cause me to be unable to dodge. It was embarrassing.

Can't log back in at all. I get to character selection and I'm getting 90k everytime i try to enter server. This sucks. I want to play. :<

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Originally Posted by Nekodar

If you include everything between you and SE's datacenter as "server side", sure... Even with SE confirming there exists a problem, it may not be on the actual servers... could be on the network side of things (SE's network or their upstream provider).
Just saying...

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Well, I admit it doesn't help that they can't have the EU servers in EU. Also, yes, I sort of consider everything outside of my own PC as "server side" as I can't affect it myself.

If there at least was a way for me to know when I'm about to disconnect so I can give my party a heads up but no. I even have less lag than my friends so it's a mystery.

Might add that I play on Cerberus.

Goblin!! Same everday since 2.2

Got booted from Leviathan a few minutes ago with a 90k and log back in to a bunch of people on my LS saying that they got 90k'd too. I've been disconnecting with 90k's all morning.

Leviathan as well

Keep getting booted of Jenova, and can not connect to Leviathan at all.

I Keep getting 90kd in Behemoth 4x now, kinda frustrating, so tell me square why did u remove the afk kick feature? epic fail on ur part, cause this def. contributing to server congestion.

I've been getting 90k'd all day on Leviathan. I log back in and 10 minutes later I'll get another 90k. Not sure what is going on, but I'm getting really frustrated. Between this and the atma bs, I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Been hit by 90k about a dozen times today already, Hyperion server.

90k since the hotfix
Lich