Chocobo leveling help ( not guide )

After i finally decided to unlock the chocobo companion i tried to level it, to no avail after killing dozen of mobs of every level ( including fates ) my choco companion hasn't even gotten 1 exp lol i think.
It just says 0/100 .
Or am i looking at the wrong thing on the companion screen?

Chocobo's are granted 25% of the XP you would get yourself from a kill. So if you got 100 XP for your character, it would get 25 XP itself. Keep in mind that a Chocobo actually TAKES XP away from you, for itself. So for my example, 100 XP for you and 25 for the Chocobo, means if it was not summoned, you would have gotten 125 XP.

The XP notation in the battle log appears somewhat odd to say the least.

Your personal experience is as follows:
"You gain <amount> (<percent>%) <class> experience points."

Your Chocobo's experience gain is as follows:
"You gain <amount> experience points."

You only get credit for kills that you claim, and it has to be high enough to give you experience, I think within 10 levels of you, so unless you are one of those black mages that does nothing but runs around spamming blizzard 2 for claim and letting everyone else kill stuff for you, fates are going to be a horrible place to level your bird.

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

You only get credit for kills that you claim, and it has to be high enough to give you experience, I think within 10 levels of you, so unless you are one of those black mages that does nothing but runs around spamming blizzard 2 for claim and letting everyone else kill stuff for you, fates are going to be a horrible place to level your bird.

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Oh and the enemies health bar and name tag MUST be red. If it is pink, that is not tagged as yours and you will gain nothing from it. And neither will your pet.

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

Oh and the enemies health bar and name tag MUST be red. If it is pink, that is not tagged as yours and you will gain nothing from it. And neither will your pet.

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That is entirely wrong, like the guy above you also stated. You don't need to have the claim as long as you contribute enough dmg to the claimed Mob, you will get Exp as well.

So as long as you tag it, it will be red for you.

It does not need to be tagged and red, as long as you contribute enough damage,
even if some one else has claim (purple) you can still get credit. this is actually a
method people use to level their birds in groups of more than 4 people. Let one party
claim and the other finish the mobs.

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Originally Posted by Volsung

It does not need to be tagged and red, as long as you contribute enough damage,
even if some one else has claim (purple) you can still get credit. this is actually a
method people use to level their birds in groups of more than 4 people. Let one party
claim and the other finish the mobs.

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Since we are talking about leveling a Chocobo, relying on doing enough damage to a pink tagged mob is unreliable at best. Therefore it is far better to make sure the enemy health bar and name tag are red to almost guarantee credit for the kill.

And also, attempting to tag another groups kills is not so much a good idea as you will only aggravate those in that group. Plus it is not very polite to the victim of this.

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

Since we are talking about leveling a Chocobo, relying on doing enough damage to a pink tagged mob is unreliable at best. Therefore it is far better to make sure the enemy health bar and name tag are red to almost guarantee credit for the kill.

And also, attempting to tag another groups kills is not so much a good idea as you will only aggravate those in that group. Plus it is not very polite to the victim of this.

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The reason i brought this up is because its the best way for 2 groups of 4 people to level their chocobos "together"
If you've never done it, that's alright, I'm sure a lot of people don't know of this method. Its for 8 people to work together.
1 group of 4 claims, the other group finishes mob. Its actually the best way to level. I'm not saying to go fight mobs complete
strangers have claimed. Its not unreliable at all, and a popular thing to do.

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

Since we are talking about leveling a Chocobo, relying on doing enough damage to a pink tagged mob is unreliable at best. Therefore it is far better to make sure the enemy health bar and name tag are red to almost guarantee credit for the kill.

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Have you ever done it? It seems to me like you are simply guessing. No matter in which Fate i go, i just dps/aoe everything regardless of being tagged or not and the exp boosts up like there is no tomorrow. it is really hard to NOT get credit for a tagged mob, unless it has like ~10% health when you start attacking.

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

And also, attempting to tag another groups kills is not so much a good idea as you will only aggravate those in that group. Plus it is not very polite to the victim of this.

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Aggravate people in a different Group? How lol?.. You are helping them killing their mobs and since they had initial claim the get credit regardless of how much they've contributed. There is no disadvantage for the group, just for you because there is a really, really small risk you will not get 100% Credit for it and you will not get "items", which only applies to openfield mobs. Has nothing to do with being polite, since this is not XI were "stealing" actually would have an negative impact on the other group, in XIV it does not.

If i claim a group of Mobs in a Fate and i see people start fighting it, then i will leave those mobs alone. Because i will get credit regardless, but i also give those people the chance to get credit as well. THAT is what i call polite, since i am helping those people. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that and tbh i never heard/saw anyone complaining if you attack THEIR claims. There is simply no reason to.

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Originally Posted by Volsung

The reason i brought this up is because its the best way for 2 groups of 4 people to level their chocobos "together"
If you've never done it, that's alright, I'm sure a lot of people don't know of this method. Its for 8 people to work together.
1 group of 4 claims, the other group finishes mob. Its actually the best way to level. I'm not saying to go fight mobs complete
strangers have claimed. Its not unreliable at all, and a popular thing to do.

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Whilst i nor nobody i know of has heard of leveling a Chocobo in this method, I can certainly see it being a hit and miss affair.

I wont deny your method if that is what you wish. However a group of 4 people with their Chocobo's out gathering up mobs to line of sight them and aoe'ing them all at once seems to be the best method to level all 4 Chocobo's at once.

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Originally Posted by Nero

Have you ever done it? It seems to me like you are simply guessing. No matter in which Fate i go, i just dps/aoe everything regardless of being tagged or not and the exp boosts up like there is no tomorrow. it is really hard to NOT get credit for a tagged mob, unless it has like ~10% health when you start attacking.

Aggravate people in a different Group? How lol?.. You are helping them killing their mobs and since they had initial claim the get credit regardless of how much they've contributed. There is no disadvantage for the group, just for you because there is a really, really small risk you will not get 100% Credit for it and you will not get "items", which only applies to openfield mobs. Has nothing to do with being polite, since this is not XI were "stealing" actually would have an negative impact on the other group, in XIV it does not.

If i claim a group of Mobs in a Fate and i see people start fighting it, then i will leave those mobs alone. Because i will get credit regardless, but i also give those people the chance to get credit as well. THAT is what i call polite, since i am helping those people. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that and tbh i never heard/saw anyone complaining if you attack THEIR claims. There is simply no reason to.

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Yes as a matter of fact i have. Many times to great success in fact. I do it with my FC these days instead of just randoms.

And as for generally pissing off others in a group, yes that happens a lot. Join a fate group that is not yet full and pull out your Chocobo. Without fail one or more will demand you remove your Chocobo. There is a reason why they demand this and this is no different to the stealing of kills for other groups you are not a part of. You are not ''helping them kill their mobs'', in fact you are stealing the very thing they are there to gain.

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

Whilst i nor nobody i know of has heard of leveling a Chocobo in this method, I can certainly see it being a hit and miss affair.

I wont deny your method if that is what you wish. However a group of 4 people with their Chocobo's out gathering up mobs to line of sight them and aoe'ing them all at once seems to be the best method to level all 4 Chocobo's at once.

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What he's talking about is the same thing, except Group one gathers, getting claim in the process. And one the mobs are grouped and where you want them, the second group kills them. So instead of 4 people taking the whole spot, 8 people can level there.

The only time it's "hit and miss" is if the first group isn't working with the second. ie the first is killing the mobs instead of letting the second do it.

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

Whilst i nor nobody i know of has heard of leveling a Chocobo in this method, I can certainly see it being a hit and miss affair.

I wont deny your method if that is what you wish. However a group of 4 people with their Chocobo's out gathering up mobs to line of sight them and aoe'ing them all at once seems to be the best method to level all 4 Chocobo's at once.

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lol you just keep denying stuff. This has been known since last year, and even has a youtube guide one it. Its constantly done on my server
Herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOmrikZHAXQ Like I said, its ok if you haven't heard of doing it with
a second group, but please don't spread information you haven't tried.

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Originally Posted by Nero

snip.

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I think he mean cross claim
group A claim target A
group B claim target B
group A kill target B while group B kill target A

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

Yes as a matter of fact i have. Many times to great success in fact. I do it with my FC these days instead of just randoms.

And as for generally pissing off others in a group, yes that happens a lot. Join a fate group that is not yet full and pull out your Chocobo. Without fail one or more will demand you remove your Chocobo. There is a reason why they demand this and this is no different to the stealing of kills for other groups you are not a part of. You are not ''helping them kill their mobs'', in fact you are stealing the very thing they are there to gain.

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Wait.. what?.. Are you trolling?

Seriously, i've NEVER seen someone telling someone else to get their Chocobo away. If i attack claimed mobs, the person/group who initially claimed it will get 100% credit, so what do i steal? Please enlighten me how i can steal something from an allready tagged target. Or are we playing a different Game?

Whoever has claim gets credit regardless lol. There is no "stealing".

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

Chocobo's are granted 25% of the XP you would get yourself from a kill. So if you got 100 XP for your character, it would get 25 XP itself. Keep in mind that a Chocobo actually TAKES XP away from you, for itself. So for my example, 100 XP for you and 25 for the Chocobo, means if it was not summoned, you would have gotten 125 XP.

The XP notation in the battle log appears somewhat odd to say the least.

Your personal experience is as follows:
"You gain <amount> (<percent>%) <class> experience points."

Your Chocobo's experience gain is as follows:
"You gain <amount> experience points."

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I'd just like to say that everything in this post is wrong. From the math all the way down to what is actually being said.

First off, 25% of 125 is not 25. Its 31.25.
Secondly, if that were true, you would be getting over 1200 exp per lvl 50 mob. Last I checked, you don't. What actually happens is that you and your chocobo both get 100% exp from the kill. The exp that goes to your character is then given whatever exp bonuses you have at the time(rested bonus, fc buff bonus, etc). The chocobo however, does benefit from the chain exp bonus.

Just to repeat myself, the chocobo DOES NOT steal your exp.

EDIT: Also just to add on to this, your chocobo will not get any experience if your level is too high. So if you wouldn't normally get exp from the mob, your chocobo won't get any. The only exception to this is when you're at 50 at which point only high level mobs will give your chocobo exp. I don't know the exact levels that you can get exp from but generally you want to kill 49/50 mobs.

Ah this is the answer i was looking for,
So i need to kill level 50 mons and do level 45+ fates to get exp?
Cuz i was confused to how this would work if i was level 50 with a level 50 chocobo. I'll try that lol
Also is it more effective to level up in parties or alone?
I'm assuming party tho, also how long would it take to get from rank 1-5?

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

Chocobo's are granted 25% of the XP you would get yourself from a kill. So if you got 100 XP for your character, it would get 25 XP itself. Keep in mind that a Chocobo actually TAKES XP away from you, for itself. So for my example, 100 XP for you and 25 for the Chocobo, means if it was not summoned, you would have gotten 125 XP.

The XP notation in the battle log appears somewhat odd to say the least.

Your personal experience is as follows:
"You gain <amount> (<percent>%) <class> experience points."

Your Chocobo's experience gain is as follows:
"You gain <amount> experience points."

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I know you are trying to help, but your math is appalling.

I have a lv 50 character, so will the chocobo still het 25 percent? Or all of it?

How much exp will it get if I go around killing lv 45 to 50 mobs?

Ok, so there seems to be a lot of misinformation in this thread. I've personally done the long grind to get my chocobo to rank 10, so let me shed some light on the process.

When your chocobo is out, if you would get exp on your current job against the mob you're fighting, your chocobo gets the same amount of xp as you would obtain from that mob. For example, if at level 49 you killed a mob and got 200 exp if you did it solo, with your chocobo out while you were on the same level 49 job you would obtain 200 exp and your chocobo would obtain 200 exp.

The best way to level your chocobo at the moment is in groups, gathering up a bunch of enemies at once and AoE bursting them down. Chocobos ONLY GAIN XP FROM KILLING ENEMIES! This means no FATE completion bonuses, no quest turn-ins, nothing. Just pure, simple grinding. It takes a long, long time to level your chocobo from rank 1-10, since at best you'll probably be getting around 200-300 xp per mob, and even in a group it takes a long time. The fastest method I've found nets roughly 100,000 exp per hour. My chocobo was rank 6 when they implemented the EXP TNL being shown for your chocobo, so I'm not sure how much EXP it takes to get from 1→6, however from 6→10 it takes 3,330,000 exp:

Rank 1→2 ???,???
Rank 2→3 ???,???
Rank 3→4 ???,???
Rank 4→5 ???,???
Rank 5→6 ???,???
Rank 6→7 490,000
Rank 7→8 700,000
Rank 8→9 - 940,000
Rank 9→10 - 1,200,000

So basically 32 hours of straight grinding. (If any of these exp numbers are wrong, please let me know with a screenshot so I can change it).

As for the method that people in this thread are talking about, there seems to be some confusion as to how it works. Let me clear it up:

at most, you'll have 2 full parties of 4 people each (4 people + 4 Chocobos in each party). One party is the "Pull party" and the other is the "Kill Party". The Pull party will have one member round up all the enemies and gather them up at the kill point. This gives the pull party claim on all of the enemies that are going to be killed. Once the enemies are gathered up, the Kill party will AoE the enemies down, while the Pull party does not attack at all. The pull party gets full exp for their chocobos since they had claim on the enemies, thus guaranteeing 100% exp regardless of battle participation. The Kill party gets full exp for their chocobos as the kill party did more than enough damage to the enemies to have their contribution rewarded will full exp. This way, both parties get full exp and everyone wins!

(and just to preemptively ward off skeptics, proof of rank 10 chocobo: )

http://i.imgur.com/NH588QP.jpg

Wouldn't it be more effective to level a chocobo on a lower level alt job? If you and your chocobo are, for example, level 30, you could potentially attack mobs a level or two above that and get more XP for each mob, not to mention chain bonuses. I guess I'm not sure of the math on that.

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

Chocobo's are granted 25% of the XP you would get yourself from a kill. So if you got 100 XP for your character, it would get 25 XP itself. Keep in mind that a Chocobo actually TAKES XP away from you, for itself. So for my example, 100 XP for you and 25 for the Chocobo, means if it was not summoned, you would have gotten 125 XP.

The XP notation in the battle log appears somewhat odd to say the least.

Your personal experience is as follows:
"You gain <amount> (<percent>%) <class> experience points."

Your Chocobo's experience gain is as follows:
"You gain <amount> experience points."

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This is not true, Chocobos get 100% of the XP you do without boosts (rested/non-chocobo FC buff/Off-class buff) but only from mobs you do over 25% of the damage to and/or claim. The best way to level is FFXI style and stand in one spot and just grind on mobs. It sucks, but it is the only way to level a chocobo. The only exception to the no bonuses rule is EXP chains which will buff both you and the chocobo equally.

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Originally Posted by myahele

I have a lv 50 character, so will the chocobo still het 25 percent? Or all of it?

How much exp will it get if I go around killing lv 45 to 50 mobs?

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Around 214 exp if you kill level 50 enemies.

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Originally Posted by ReaperT

What actually happens is that you and your chocobo both get 100% exp from the kill.

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Not exactly 100% exp on each.
First there is a party malus. If you are in a party (with a player or a companion) you get a bit less exp than solo (but the kill speed would be of course faster).
also the player can get some exp bonus the Chocobo can't get.

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Originally Posted by Sol_Aureus

As for the method that people in this thread are talking about, there seems to be some confusion as to how it works. Let me clear it up:

at most, you'll have 2 full parties of 4 people each (4 people + 4 Chocobos in each party). One party is the "Pull party" and the other is the "Kill Party". The Pull party will have one member round up all the enemies and gather them up at the kill point. This gives the pull party claim on all of the enemies that are going to be killed. Once the enemies are gathered up, the Kill party will AoE the enemies down, while the Pull party does not attack at all. The pull party gets full exp for their chocobos since they had claim on the enemies, thus guaranteeing 100% exp regardless of battle participation. The Kill party gets full exp for their chocobos as the kill party did more than enough damage to the enemies to have their contribution rewarded will full exp. This way, both parties get full exp and everyone wins!

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Exactly.
If you claimed the enemy you get 100% exp and the enemy drop the moment it die.
If you attack an already claimed enemy, you need to do at least 30% of the dmg to get the exp (no enemy drop in this situation).
This is called kill-sharing.

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

Since we are talking about leveling a Chocobo, relying on doing enough damage to a pink tagged mob is unreliable at best. Therefore it is far better to make sure the enemy health bar and name tag are red to almost guarantee credit for the kill.

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Exactly, but that's not the advice you gave at all.

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

Oh and the enemies health bar and name tag MUST be red. If it is pink, that is not tagged as yours and you will gain nothing from it. And neither will your pet.

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This was flat out wrong, and you're spreading false information. I understand you were trying to help, but you aren't empowering anyone by leaving out details and misleading.

Personally if I'm farming a choco spot and my mobs run out because someone else is at the camp I will absolutely try to throw enough damage on the few mobs he is fighting. Not like I have anything else to do while I wait for respawns, and I have a chance at a bit more exp. Completely ignoring this option would limit my exp gain.

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Originally Posted by Sol_Aureus

Rank 8→9 - 940,000

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Fixed it for you.
I don't have a screenshot as you ask, but i don't need one. Done the terrible grind the past week.

http://i.imgur.com/xZyoK19.jpg


I figured partying up and gathering mobs to aoe them at urth's fount was the fastest way to level chocobos. Around 100k exp a hour together with the 5% chocobo FC buff.
For solo grinding i found either natalan in coerthas or some place in western la noscea (Place with lots of roegadyn bandits, jellyfishes, near the sahagin grottos) the best option.
It'd still be slower than the grind at Urth's fount in south shroud. Soloing would give me about 60-80k exp a hour.

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Originally Posted by Felis

also the player can get some exp bonus the Chocobo can't get.

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Yes that is what I said. Although I did not know there was a decrease due to being in a party. Must be really small because I've never noticed it before.

But point is, chocobos do not steal your exp. They never have and they never will. No idea where people got that crazy idea.

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

Ah this is the answer i was looking for,
So i need to kill level 50 mons and do level 45+ fates to get exp?
Cuz i was confused to how this would work if i was level 50 with a level 50 chocobo. I'll try that lol
Also is it more effective to level up in parties or alone?
I'm assuming party tho, also how long would it take to get from rank 1-5?

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Something to keep in mind; chocobos do not get the fate completion exp that your character would normally get for getting bronze/silver/gold in a fate. They do however get exp for all mobs you get credit for.

Make sure you are killing mobs you would get XP for, if you are level 50 you wont get anything killing level 10 mobs you need like 46+ iirc

Ah okay thanks lol it makes much more sense now.
I wished they would tell u this during the unlock quest.
Cuz with this much confusion players that r new to this thing like myself would go like wtf lol what am i doing wrong?
Hence the reason y i never unlocked the companion till now lol.... Which is really late imo.