Why aren't the developers taking advantage of the leve system?

I often see people complaining about the leve system and lack of open world content. The leve system has so much potential, but after lvl 50 the leve system is practically useless, so why aren't there more options for end game leves?

For example, I believe it would be great if you could group up with a party and do leves directed more towards end game content.
- Group up with friends (4,8,16,24)
- Travel to area together where the leve is commenced
- Spend a certain amount of allowances to participate in the leve.
- Depending on how well you execute your chances of getting powerful/rare items are increased

Some of these could include very difficult boss battles with chances at obtaining very rare items, or even leves that consists of several parts and eventually lead to a powerful confrontation.

I feel something like this would greatly enhance the leve system, and also solve a lot the problems with a lack of open world content that's actually worth doing.

My guess is the treasure map thing was the way they got around "leve"s at 50.

I'm not sure if it's still around now, but back in the early days of 1.0, you could "link" leves if multiple people had the same one.

I mentioned this in other threads, but seeing how I have all my classes/jobs to 50, I no longer have a use for exp. SE needs to implement some sort of system to where you can still earn exp past max level, but utilize it towards something else, similar to how there were merit points in FF11 or how you could use skill points in GW2 as currency. That, and/or award tomestones from certain leves, especially since we're supposed to be losing the weekly Mythology cap in 2.2.

By the looks of this older trailer, it's how things used to be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XbxPsWFyU8

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Originally Posted by Tetsaru

I'm not sure if it's still around now, but back in the early days of 1.0, you could "link" leves if multiple people had the same one.

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It is still ingame, but it give you no bonus anymore.

Some level 50 group leves would be really good. Like "Operation: Crosseye" from 1.23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLB1F6gIIHk

Maybe at 50, the EXP you would get for the leve would be converted into gil. If a level gives you 5k EXP and 500gil, if you do it at 50, you get no gil, but 5,500gil.

Or have the exp you gain go to your chocobo

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Originally Posted by Lucke

Maybe at 50, the EXP you would get for the leve would be converted into gil. If a level gives you 5k EXP and 500gil, if you do it at 50, you get no gil, but 5,500gil.

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This would be really easy gil, and anything that makes making gil easy they shun away from because of RMT, back in the 1.whatever days they used to grind leves, so they pretty much took the gil incentive out for 2.0. Just another thing we can't have because of RMTs.

The OP is onto something here. This really does have a lot of potential, and you could create high level/high man content here.

Great post! +1.

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Originally Posted by Lucke

Maybe at 50, the EXP you would get for the leve would be converted into gil. If a level gives you 5k EXP and 500gil, if you do it at 50, you get no gil, but 5,500gil.

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So when I do HQ craft levels at 50 and get 250k xp I get 250k Gil?
WOoOoO!

We DID have this content OP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na2QpTGb0E4

I think there are 11 people in that party, but they could have had 16.

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Originally Posted by MuCephei

We DID have this content OP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na2QpTGb0E4

I think there are 11 people in that party, but they could have had 16.

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Max party was 12 before it got reduced to 8, not 16
The problem with the 12 member party was that there was not really a content where you needed so many people. Most time the enemy was dead before 7 from the 12 reached them.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Max party was 12 before it got reduced to 8, not 16
The problem with the 12 member party was that there was not really a content where you needed so many people. Most time the enemy was dead before 7 from the 12 reached them.

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Sorry about that; don't know why I thought it was 16. Anyways...I think the dev team should try to expand upon the leve content a bit.

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Originally Posted by WellGramarye

So when I do HQ craft levels at 50 and get 250k xp I get 250k Gil?
WOoOoO!

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That's right. Housing prices don't sound so extreme now, do they?

Yup Faction Leves, now I didn't join until 1.18 but from what I've read they offered some of the best armor before the materia system, near the end they were used to obtain Coliseum gear in a levequest chain, no idea why they just disappeared along with other content that was already in 1.0, but hey at least we got those fun and exciting /beckon leves to replace them right.

I just wish at level 50 EVERY quest converted total XP into a % of Gil instead, so that the only reward you got for doing ANY quest was Gil.

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Originally Posted by Karnyboy

I just wish at level 50 EVERY quest converted total XP into a % of Gil instead, so that the only reward you got for doing ANY quest was Gil.

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Tread lightly, this is a mechanic used in WoW, many people will look right through the idea, no matter how good it is, and only see WoW. Also burn a class to 50, then run around doing all the quests would make for easy gil, and they would say that it catered to RMTs, so the gil reward would be reduced to something that wasn't really worthwhile.

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

Tread lightly, this is a mechanic used in WoW, many people will look right through the idea, no matter how good it is, and only see WoW. Also burn a class to 50, then run around doing all the quests would make for easy gil, and they would say that it catered to RMTs, so the gil reward would be reduced to something that wasn't really worthwhile.

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I know, it's a lose lose kind of situation. I just hate seeing useless exp rewards on quests post 50, etc.

So annoying, maybe not apply it to leve's but man the one time quests in game should get a conversion at level 50.

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

Tread lightly, this is a mechanic used in WoW, many people will look right through the idea, no matter how good it is, and only see WoW. Also burn a class to 50, then run around doing all the quests would make for easy gil, and they would say that it catered to RMTs, so the gil reward would be reduced to something that wasn't really worthwhile.

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Something that always struck me as odd. You take money out of economy in an effort to fight RMT, but doesn't this incentivise and push players into using said RMT? If players had a good source of income wouldn't that hurt RMT more because players wouldn't feel the need to buy currency since they could make it at a decent pace. Those that would buy it at this point then would be the ones whom would have bought it anyway?

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Originally Posted by WellGramarye

Something that always struck me as odd. You take money out of economy in an effort to fight RMT, but doesn't this incentivise and push players into using said RMT? If players had a good source of income wouldn't that hurt RMT more because players wouldn't feel the need to buy currency since they could make it at a decent pace. Those that would buy it at this point then would be the ones whom would have bought it anyway?

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I guess people think there's amarket out there and fear inflation? I dunno, but this makes sense to me remove RMT by making Gil a bit easier to come by.

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Originally Posted by Karnyboy

I guess people think there's amarket out there and fear inflation? I dunno, but this makes sense to me remove RMT by making Gil a bit easier to come by.

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I think a bit of inflation would help the economies at this point rather than hurt it. Nearly nothing has much value anymore and the little value it has is because not many people spend the time to farm said items.The problem is the people who would use said items actually mostly farm it themselves anyway so thus the goods with value never sell. So because they never sell, they'll keep dropping in value till someone actually feels its justified to buy them.

http://i57.tinypic.com/2n7h18m.jpg

Using Aldgoat leather as an example. The only use this item has is to crafters. Crafters won't buy it in bulk because it costs more for the leather than the finished products. So players tend to buy only what they need at the cheapest possible price to HQ the items they are working on. It causes the market system of Supply and Demand to break down since the supply will quickly beat out the demand; and the market will run down the price to nothing.

When 2.2 hits it'll stimulate the economy for about a second; then quickly everything will plummet in price as the general population can not AFFORD to buy the goods. Once the 20% wealthy buy what they need then there is no one to sell to anymore and the prices will get ground to dust.

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Originally Posted by WellGramarye

Something that always struck me as odd. You take money out of economy in an effort to fight RMT, but doesn't this incentivise and push players into using said RMT? If players had a good source of income wouldn't that hurt RMT more because players wouldn't feel the need to buy currency since they could make it at a decent pace. Those that would buy it at this point then would be the ones whom would have bought it anyway?

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It doesn't matter if it makes sense to us, it's up to them, high level fishing isn't good for anything because fishing has always been good for RMT business, they removed the gil drop from the beetles in Wanderer's Palace because it was easy to farm, and thus attracted RMTs, their strategy for dealing with RMTs is make it harder for them to get their gil, then make gil only good for vanity in game. Crafted gear is useful up to a point, but in the end, dungeon/primal gear will always outpace it, gil is used for housing, the vanity slot system will be somewhat of a gil sink, pretty much anything that doesn't involve advancing content wise in the game you will find gil useful for, limiting the market RMTs have .

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Originally Posted by Felis

Some level 50 group leves would be really good. Like "Operation: Crosseye" from 1.23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLB1F6gIIHk

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This is nearly exactly what I'm talking about. It would be nice if each zone had some form of expedition like this, with objectives that actually forced you to navigate throughout the zone and encounter content. At least then there would be a meaningful reason to explore the world with your friends post 50.

I'm happy to see that in a way this existed in 1.0... Hopefully it's in their plans to reintroduce this type of content.

how about 1 gil for every 1000 exp?