You know it would be cool if FC's would have all the stuff F2P games got and more.

Have the anti rage quit leader stuff.

Example and ect: Add it like were if a leader try to kick everyone there the 7 day vote stuff on members if there in the guild after 6 months or the promoted people.

Have the. Were the guild get a guild hall (house here) and it get and give special bonuses that are worth it to the guild. Like everyone get +1 str small, +2 medium, +3 str large house. That in the guild.

Have the actually were as a guild there is few special dungeons and stuff you can run get unique items. and also have leaderboards for for some guild events.

I am sure missing a half dozen other stuff the F2P games got for guilds.

Example: i logged in to a old F2P mmo game have not been into in years and the guild had 70 active people still, and the person that created it left long ago as afk and his cousin was given the leader and tryed to kick them i guess , but they were able to prevent it. I am Sure it help that there was like 5k in real money in the hall. Was a old friend and was crazy. Still was going strong.

Is it just me, or is that REALLY hard to read.

Oh and the mandatory:

"You don't like the game? Bye!"

It's really hard for me to understand what you are saying... but here is what I am getting:

-- You want there to be a voting system for kicking people out, so that leaders cannot just go on a kicking rampage without the consent of others.
-- You want attribute bonuses added to the 'actions' that already exist... based on the size of house that someone owns. (Bigger attribute bonus for larger houses.)
-- You want free companies to have access to special dungeons and unique items you can only get through clearing them with your free company.
-- Apparently these are F2P features in other MMOs.

You already do get bonuses for houses based on the furniture you put in there, and I believe more bonuses will come along as houses become more affordable (and the servers can handle them). I don't think there will ever be FC-only content, as SE has spent so much time on their DF and PF systems.

Yea. If look outside of WoW and look into other games , take for example 100 people 15$ bucks a month to earn it. That would be $1,500 dollar FC.

Yea ryuko got it. I guess i am still to old to use forums. The limit amount of stuff, so I need to cut , everytime I try cut out stuff.

Excuse me, but what?

Well, my solution for the rage quit leader is that if he does it. Gather your folks and move on and make a better FC.

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Originally Posted by Nanamix

Well, my solution for the rage quit leader is that if he does it. Gather your folks and move on and make a better FC.

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This.

And I don't want to see this 3 letter combination in my FF forums.

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Well, my solution for the rage quit leader is that if he does it. Gather your folks and move on and make a better FC.

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Would be better that if you donated to the FC chest then if your kicked/leave you get all the gil you donated. If you donated say 3 mil and the FC used it to buy that house then they are locked out of the house until the gil is paid back watch how many FC leaders stop this whole Rage boot. Can also make it so there is a court system where if the FC member feel the FC leader is using 2 much money of the FC chest on themselves they can get all there gil removed put back into the chest and that person loses master status. Yes it would need to be 100% confidential also, so no one gets booted for questing the FC leader over there spending habbits..

I am going to start kicking kittens every time someone mentions F2P

FC's currently have very limited benefit over linkshells. I think OP was just trying to say that in some "Play(try) for free" games there are a lot more options and benefits for joining a guild(fc), that's all. This shouldn't exactly be news to our player base.

And can we please stop with the "IF YOU DONT LIKE IT GO BACK TO GAME X"? Obviously people paid (and maybe subbed) to play this game. With the majority of posts like this being people who are just frustrated and want the best out of what is a game with very great potential.

also: save the kittens from CYoung187.

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Would be better that if you donated to the FC chest then if your kicked/leave you get all the gil you donated. If you donated say 3 mil and the FC used it to buy that house then they are locked out of the house until the gil is paid back watch how many FC leaders stop this whole Rage boot. Can also make it so there is a court system where if the FC member feel the FC leader is using 2 much money of the FC chest on themselves they can get all there gil removed put back into the chest and that person loses master status. Yes it would need to be 100% confidential also, so no one gets booted for questing the FC leader over there spending habbits..

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Or understand that a donation is not the same thing as a loan and should not be paid back. Sounds like you have trust issues with FC leaders. Be more careful which FC you join? or dont donate over time, give it in one lump when its needed.

What's wrong with F2P games?

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What's wrong with F2P games?

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Far too much to really get into. I'd explain, but I REALLY don't feel like writing an essay today.

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What's wrong with F2P games?

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Everything.

I really don't see what's wrong with F2P games anyway. Stop being so conceited, jeeze. :P

Mindful** You have some terrible sentence structure... Immerse yourself into this game more and a majority of the things you mentioned are in already, except the perks of the FC house; although that is pending. FC leader will switch after 36 of non-activity. I'd recommend you play the active game over this game if it doesn't entertain you. Just a helpful comment.

Da Stache.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

LMAO!!! literally just made my day.

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F2P is just a nice way to say P2W.

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Far too much to really get into. I'd explain, but I REALLY don't feel like writing an essay today.

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There, I explained it without writing an essay. :)

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I am going to start kicking kittens every time someone mentions F2P

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Why? ARR plays like one. Often times worse.

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You already do get bonuses for houses based on the furniture you put in there, and I believe more bonuses will come along as houses become more affordable (and the servers can handle them)

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The only furniture items that have a function so far just bring town-like features to the house (mailbox, aetheryte, company chest). There's nothing gameplay-related offered as a bonus.

I think it'd be nice if, at least, there was some minor buff that you could apply at the house so that people would treat it more as a rally point before instances.

Why should companies get special, house-based bonuses that those not in a company can't get? What if you're fine without a company as, really, right now there's not much reason to be in one aside from the occasional minor buff(s), possible extra storage and a house that you might have the ability to decorate. Rank permitting, of course. I haven't been in a company for at least several months and I don't feel the slightest bit left out. It's not needed. Yet. No point making being in a company some kind of elitist thing, all that serves is creating rifts in the community.

See I completely understand your post, I'll just pretend I didn't because you said something mean about a game from my favorite franchise of all time, I'll throw in a mindless canned catch phrase while I'm at it too. As to what you said, you got to understand the game was rushed to meet deadlines once again so it was and still is missing a lot of features, some like a public FC message board are just now coming next month in 2.2 and 6 months after launch, some other bugs like being able to promote yourself above your current rank up to FC Master are just plain silly and they might not even get addressed because they're considered working as intended, fancy that.

Hard to read but to sum it up your describing F2P features in a non F2P game, I also don't want any reason to further promote RMT by giving people 'bonuses' for having more in game currency.

I have not seen such a feature in any free to play game I have ever played.

On the other hand, if the guild leader (or equivalent there-of) goes on a kicking spree, removing everybody, or the majority from the guild (or similar social group) you're better off finding a new one anyway.

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Why should companies get special, house-based bonuses that those not in a company can't get? *snip* No point making being in a company some kind of elitist thing, all that serves is creating rifts in the community.

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Since when is working as a group (time and gil spent) toward something they want (housing-based bonuses) elitist rather than a reward for working toward it?

Alert the presses! People should not be rewarded for spending their time working toward anything because other people who didn't work toward it won't have it. Unless they join after it's already in place and would still end up essentially getting the reward with no effort expended! You should probably not bother leveling any crafting, either, or earning gil to purchase crafted items since they give bonuses that people who don't put in the time to level crafting or earn gil can't have. Equally ridiculous.

The logic on these forums is sometimes just... wow.

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Since when is working as a group (time and gil spent) toward something they want (housing-based bonuses) elitist rather than a reward for working toward it?

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Didn't say effort shouldn't be rewarded, such a system is already in place in the form of company actions and they work quite well for what they do. What the originator wants is more than that. From how they describe it companies should get action bonuses just for having certain levels of population or having a certain size house. This is what can be construed as elitist and honestly we don't need that kind of vitriol.

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From how they describe it companies should get action bonuses just for having certain levels of population or having a certain size house. This is what can be construed as elitist and honestly we don't need that kind of vitriol.

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That is another thing altogether. The things the OP was suggestion didn't even merit response, IMO. I don't think that bonuses should be determined by house size or FC population, but I don't think that having across-the-board bonuses that are applied while one is IN their FC house (such as to crafting or maybe haste to rested XP, for example) is in any way elitist. The existing FC buffs are fine for what they are, yes, and the credits used to purchase them are gained via the actions of each active member of the FC. FC housing buffs, on the other hand, would be gained by additional effort considering the cost of housing. Both are rewards for varying levels of effort.

Yeah it is crazy how f2p games have better perks than p2p ones when it comes to a lot of in game stuff. :<