Dragon Knight?

is it Dragoon?

Will we get Pet?

Jump!!!?


Discuss!!!

Source:http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...azine-Aug.2011

i hope we get both

Im and old dragon from FFXI and i can only say: "Plz get me my pet back". I cant stand it without my little wyvern.

Dragon Knight is Dragoon, I believe its the term JP uses

If i remember rightly Freya was said to be a Dragon knight, but yeah dragon knight and dragoon are the same thing.

Dmg and Party Support Abilities then?

i really hope we get a pet, a controllable pet.

It be base of the version from FF2 no pet they said before that they don't want any Pet class as of now. Which this is sad was talking to a friend and pretty much he had a good point.

They don't care about the FFXI players joining FFXIV if they did they would make the class how it was in ffxi but with a new idea to make it FFXIV. They said this over and over you like ffxi? then stay in ffxi that why we still running that game and updating it. If they really want to make this in to somewhat FFXI they would have done that from day 1 not come up with Class that make no sense to any of the Final fantasy history.

When blizzard new MMO come out and everyone leave for it and this game become 1mil or below players and ffxi is dead they would go s*** let's try and make this into ffxi so our ffxi hardcore fans would come to it and let's make this little less casual because you know all the casual are no playing blizzard new mmo. This if FFXIV ever even get more then 2mil players to start with.

Yoshi-p and tanaka both should not be running this game Tanaka try to make ffxiv into a new game never before seen then mess it up. Yoshi-p go on making this game more and more casual even more no with the leve becoming pointless to party you making this into a pointless Solo game and only meet up for dumb dungeon wtf? really?


"If you read this yoshi-p one thing i have to tell you this is final fantasy Not WoW stop trying to make this 90% casual and 90% solo they need to be some hardcore stuff in it"

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

It be base of the version from FF2 no pet they said before that they don't want any Pet class as of now. Which this is sad was talking to a friend and pretty much he had a good point.

They don't care about the FFXI players joining FFXIV if they did they would make the class how it was in ffxi but with a new idea to make it FFXIV. They said this over and over you like ffxi? then stay in ffxi that why we still running that game and updating it. If they really want to make this in to somewhat FFXI they would have done that from day 1 not come up with Class that make no sense to any of the Final fantasy history.

When blizzard new MMO come out and everyone leave for it and this game become 1mil or below players and ffxi is dead they would go s*** let's try and make this into ffxi so our ffxi hardcore fans would come to it and let's make this little less casual because you know all the casual are no playing blizzard new mmo. This if FFXIV ever even get more then 2mil players to start with.

Yoshi-p and tanaka both should not be running this game Tanaka try to make ffxiv into a new game never before seen then mess it up. Yoshi-p go on making this game more and more casual even more no with the leve becoming pointless to party you making this into a pointless Solo game and only meet up for dumb dungeon wtf? really?


"If you read this yoshi-p one thing i have to tell you this is final fantasy Not WoW stop trying to make this 90% casual and 90% solo they need to be some hardcore stuff in it"

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ok this is extremely off topic but first Titan (blizzards new MMO) will be a niche game, its and FPS MMO so i wouldn't worry about it pulling away the MMORPG players.

Second lowering leve link bonus but adding on completion SP is not killing the ability to effectively group for leves, not to mention the addition of group content that also rewards sp. Leves where always meant to cater to the casual so nothing is really changing.

Third SE has already stated they will be adding a pet class in the future but right now they have issues they need to work out to do so, not sure if this is still on the agenda since Yoshi took over but I dont see why they wouldn't add a pet class. I never really seen a dragoon as much of a pet class even in XI since the pet was not the main focus of the class.

I favor the DoM classes, but Lancer is my prefered DoW class. I never played dragoon. In FFXI i played mage classes. I was a red mage before red mages were cool.

All that being said. I have always loved pet classes in general. FFXI, EQ, EQII, EQOA, I loves petclasses in all of these.

You have no ides how much I await pets in XIV. I have developed interest in LNC and DRG to the point that I feel it would be my prefered class.

Unless of coarse we get Bard. Thats my top class choice. They need to make Bards with a beast charm. Music does tame the savage beast after all. EQOA mastered the manner in which to give bards the ability to charm. I would love to see a similar idea here. Otherwise I am going the path of whatever mellee type class can have a pet.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

ok this is extremely off topic but first Titan (blizzards new MMO) will be a niche game, its and FPS MMO so i wouldn't worry about it pulling away the MMORPG players.

Second lowering leve link bonus but adding on completion SP is not killing the ability to effectively group for leves, not to mention the addition of group content that also rewards sp. Leves where always meant to cater to the casual so nothing is really changing.

Third SE has already stated they will be adding a pet class in the future but right now they have issues they need to work out to do so, not sure if this is still on the agenda since Yoshi took over but I dont see why they wouldn't add a pet class. I never really seen a dragoon as much of a pet class even in XI since the pet was not the main focus of the class.

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so blizzard new mmo is a fps ahh see i did not know that i don't really look for there games i'm not really into that company games.

All i was saying is for now FFXIV wont have pet jobs but seeing how Dragon Knight is not dragoon and i think dragon knight would be from FF2 and they said they going to add more jobs that you could unlock within the same class they could easy add a pet job for lancer to become dragoon.

Dragoon when two hour was there pet was not really much of a pet job but once it just become JA and they had a new two hour that you can get the HP,TP,STR from your Pet it did become more about the pet in that you use it to kill it lol. But i do agree it was not much of a pet job like BST,PUP,SMN where you could control your pet.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

so blizzard new mmo is a fps ahh see i did not know that i don't really look for there games i'm not really into that company games.

All i was saying is for now FFXIV wont have pet jobs but seeing how Dragon Knight is not dragoon and i think dragon knight would be from FF2 and they said they going to add more jobs that you could unlock within the same class they could easy add a pet job for lancer to become dragoon.

Dragoon when two hour was there pet was not really much of a pet job but once it just become JA and they had a new two hour that you can get the HP,TP,STR from your Pet it did become more about the pet in that you use it to kill it lol. But i do agree it was not much of a pet job like BST,PUP,SMN where you could control your pet.

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http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dragoon

Get your facts straight, dragon knight is just another name for dragoon. Even if SE go for this translation of dragoon instead(i kinda like the name), even if they do not implement a wyvern i will play dragoon/dragon knight. I played xi for years and dragoon was a fun job but they didnt really use the wyvern to its fullest potential in my eyes. So if they dont bring in the wyvern i will be happy with the abilities we will get as replacement.

I'm sure it'll be called Dragoon in the English version. The person who translated the information was a generous Japanese player, and "Dragon Knight" was probably just a small error on their part being unfamiliar with the English job names.

I hope it's close to Dragoon from FFXI. I'm looking forward to pet classes in XIV.

I actually wouldn't mind being called Dragon Knight this time around. Also, I wonder is SE would ever consider different forms of Dragoon.
For example, a DD version on the job with the Wyvern out, and a tank version where the PC actually semi-morphed into an actual dragon-type beast with breath attacks, increased HP, etc.

Just thinking aloud is all.

Laters!

Please no pets. Lancer is such a strong class by itself, and by adding a pet, they'd either unbalance several aspects of the melee game, make the pet utterly worthless, or nerf the base class to hell and back. Lancer is designed as a TP-based buff, debuff, and (to a serious extent if you know what you're doing with weapon skills) damage machine. Can you imagine, those of you from FFXI, if SAM or DNC had a pet? It would have broken the game battle balance or destroyed the jobs themselves. Lancer is not designed to be a pet-handling class. I pray SE makes it stay that way. Jump or whatever doesn't really bother me one way or the other. It's just another ability. But pets simply unleash all kinds of questions that this game honestly cannot handle right now, given what Lancer already is.

The job Dragoon would get the pet, and be balanced accordingly, not the class Lancer. This is all speculative, of course.

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Originally Posted by Arik

The job Dragoon would get the pet, and be balanced accordingly, not the class Lancer. This is all speculative, of course.

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Balanced by locking off the Lancer's already too-strong TP moves? Then you don't even have much of a Lancer base any more for the Dragoon to build upon.

Atleast make it so Dragoon's "special" is to summon a Dragon which comes and fight with you for 30 sec and disappear. with a decent cool down?

Without an association with a dragon type, dont even bother calling it Dragoon!

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Atleast make it so Dragoon's "special" is to summon a Dragon which comes and fight with you for 30 sec and disappear. with a decent cool down?

Without an association with a dragon type, dont even bother calling it Dragoon!

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Afaik, FFXI was the first title where you could summon a pet/dragon as a Dragoon. The only ability a Dragoon MUST have is Jump!

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Originally Posted by Budi

Afaik, FFXI was the first title where you could summon a pet/dragon as a Dragoon. The only ability a Dragoon MUST have is Jump!

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^^^ This, not sure why so many try and associate dragoon mainly with XI, Kain was the most bad ass Dragoon and there has been one form or another of Dragoon in most titles all of which had no pet wyvern.

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^^^ This, not sure why so many try and associate dragoon mainly with XI, Kain was the most bad ass Dragoon and there has been one form or another of Dragoon in most titles all of which had no pet wyvern.

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Haha, probably because FFXI was the first MMO in the series. And Wyvern pet just made Dragoon more unique.

I imagine (and hope) that this name will see an eventual name change to the more familiar Dragoon :]

I wouldnt mind if they gave dragoons powers/spells/abilities relating to weilding the spirits of the dragons they've killed much like in IX. It may just be the ishgardian lore but dragoons seem to be more focused around killing dragons than they were in XI.

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I imagine (and hope) that this name will see an eventual name change to the more familiar Dragoon :]

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Im thinking (not 100% sure) that they will be Dragoon in English Dragon Knight in JP, kind of like how JP call Marauder Executioner

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....kind of like how JP call Marauder Executioner

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Problem to me with this is that the Marauders are Pirates. Executioner does not seem like a Pirate name.
Thats just my 2 cents~

In Japanese they are called "Magic Axe Man" and not Executioner. EXC was the english name before it got translated "correctly" by the english team.

Wooo maybe Dragoon will have pets!!!!!!!!!!!yay!

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

This seems like a good spot to drop some information that we recently heard from Yoshida... He mentioned that the dev. team is currently thinking about two different approaches.

The first is pet-related content where players can raise chocobos and other mounts that anyone can ride. The second idea is centered around pets that can only be utilized by specific jobs.

However, we won't be picking just one concept to implement. Instead we will be looking into the specifications so that we can implement both. However, as we are not yet at the stage where we can disclose when the implementation timing will be. We hope that the current chocobo implementation planned for 1.19 will hold you all over in the meantime. :)

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/hope!!!

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Originally Posted by Budi

In Japanese they are called "Magic Axe Man" and not Executioner. EXC was the english name before it got translated "correctly" by the english team.

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ahhh ok thanks for the info

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Originally Posted by Krausus

^^^ This, not sure why so many try and associate dragoon mainly with XI, Kain was the most bad ass Dragoon and there has been one form or another of Dragoon in most titles all of which had no pet wyvern.

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You are sooo right Krausus. Kain is the bad-ass Dragoon of all time. As should be obvious, as my name is derived from him.

I loved playing Dragoon in XI, and I'm looking forward to playing it in XIV. I don't know what it was about the pet wyvern, but that just completely made the job for me in XI. When I played a different job, I felt kind of naked without my little blue friend helping me out!

My biggest hope for this job class, though, is that they make the story more realistic in an MMO setting. It was really hard in XI to believe that I was the last of the dragon knights when there were hundreds of other dragoons on my server. Or that summoning magic was really forbidden, when there were so many summoners running around the cities.

Anyway, if they don't give dragoons wyverns this time around, I'll be rather disappointed, but I'm very interested in seeing how they make these jobs unique to XIV in their own ways.

personaly,i want to see the dragoon in all its prime. with out the pet. Think Kain Highwind.. you didnt see him playing with baby dragons.. nope he was just raw power.that is what the Dragoon is and should always be.

LNC is already gimped enough compared to lets say archer, but every dd class is. Make Dragon knight able to take a hit, and don't give him a wyvern, save "dragoon" for wyvern, when they release new jobs down the line. Yoshi said he's looking into a way to implement pet jobs so I wouldn't expect them at all from the first round of jobs.

Basically make Dragon Knight good...and give people a reason why we want them in our parties.

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

LNC is already gimped enough compared to lets say archer, but every dd class is. Make Dragon knight able to take a hit, and don't give him a wyvern, save "dragoon" for wyvern, when they release new jobs down the line. Yoshi said he's looking into a way to implement pet jobs so I wouldn't expect them at all from the first round of jobs.

Basically make Dragon Knight good...and give people a reason why we want them in our parties.

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Dragon Knight is Dragoon finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dragoon