Idea for the AoE indicators.

With 2.16 they added a yellow bar that pulses through the indicator over and over. This is silly and I don't really know what it's supposed to accomplish.

What would be better, and make much more sense, is if the yellow bar gradually filled up the indicator until the ability goes off. This should be, obviously, in tune with the skill bar that fills up next to the enemy's name when they're using the attack.

It would obviously make sense that if you didn't get out of the AoE indicator by the time it filled up, you would be hit by the attack, and that seeing it empty early on while it's charging, you could better prepare and evade the attack.

Edit: Or, when the pulse hits the other side, that means the attack is about to go off, that would also be fine. Right now, it seems like a really weird change that isn't helping anythig.

Agreed, would like to see the pulse time equal to cast time, so that people (such as healers) who don't have the mob targeted can see how long they have to get out.

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Originally Posted by Saziel

With 2.16 they added a yellow bar that pulses through the indicator over and over. This is silly and I don't really know what it's supposed to accomplish.

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The color change and some movement in the AOE indicator makes it stand out a lot more and makes it a lot easier to react to. It's particularly nice for the absurdly wide AOEs like Mortal Ray or the Amdapor Boss's Tail Swipe where before you might not be able to notice the AOE was there as if you're not near the edge as the color change is very slight.

A separate pulse or something indicating cast time would be amazing, though.

All this would accomplish is people being even lazier about moving out of AOE. People who think they are pros will stand in aoe to get that extra spell off instead of moving as soon as it appears and just end up getting hit. System is fine as is.

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Originally Posted by Moheeheeko

All this would accomplish is people being even lazier about moving out of AOE. People who think they are pros will stand in aoe to get that extra spell off instead of moving as soon as it appears and just end up getting hit. System is fine as is.

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How is that being lazy? It makes no sense. In fact, it's almost the opposite of lazy in that you can continue to perform actions and attacks and then move before you're about to be hit (which is what I was doing in the red AoE fields, and would continue to do)

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Originally Posted by Saziel

then move before you're about to be hit

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And then that inevitable slight lag hits and you still get hit by the AOE. And you are a bard, what the hell are you doing stopping your actions just because you have to move?

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Originally Posted by Moheeheeko

And then that inevitable slight lag hits and you still get hit by the AOE. And you are a bard, what the hell are you doing stopping your actions just because you have to move?

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I also have Paladin and Dragoon at 50. Not exactly limited to one job.

I 100% agree. I saw the preview image for this graphic & became very exciting under the impression it would work as you've proposed... I logged in & was gravely disappointed to discover this was not the case.

Please SE, sync the 'wave' with the cast-time... if you want to retain the "stand-out" nature of it, you could retain the minor pulsing wave & overlay a larger wave that indicates time-to-completion.

I'd much rather be able to change the color to what ever I want.

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Originally Posted by Saziel

I also have Paladin and Dragoon at 50. Not exactly limited to one job.

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you still arent limited by a cast bar, get that attack in and move at the same time, its not rocket surgery.

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Originally Posted by Saziel

How is that being lazy? It makes no sense. In fact, it's almost the opposite of lazy in that you can continue to perform actions and attacks and then move before you're about to be hit (which is what I was doing in the red AoE fields, and would continue to do)

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It's lazy because instead of learning about enemy attacks you're being spoon fed how they work by a giant countdown.

It's already bad enough that people don't have to do something horrible like actually learn the range and shape of enemy attacks. They should manage figuring out how long they can risk standing around on their own.

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Originally Posted by myahele

I'd much rather be able to change the color to what ever I want.

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I'd love it if you could customize the color to any you'd like to make it a color that's easier for each of us to see as we wish. The ground in some boss fights really clashes with the color of the AoE. Would be nice if for say, Titan, we could change it to a bright blue, or something. Twintania could be a bright green.

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Originally Posted by PlanckZero

It's lazy because instead of learning about enemy attacks you're being spoon fed how they work by a giant countdown.

It's already bad enough that people don't have to do something horrible like actually learn the range and shape of enemy attacks. They should manage figuring out how long they can risk standing around on their own.

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Not everybody wants to memorize every single aspect of every single fight. Maybe you're okay doing that, but not everyone is. That doesn't mean those people should be penalized. As it stands, the current AoE attack indicator is just random pulsing that's nonsensical. Having it be in sync with the cast timer would actually allow us all to play more strategically.

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Originally Posted by Saziel

Having it be in sync with the cast timer would actually allow us all to play more strategically.

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Or you could actually look at the cast bar on the mob. the only people who wouldnt be able to do that are healers, and 99% of aoe in this game has a shorter cast time than a heal spell that isnt instant and should move as soon as the red pops up.

Really like this idea, not hard to implement as well. SE PLEASE MAKE THIS!

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Originally Posted by Saziel

Not everybody wants to memorize every single aspect of every single fight. Maybe you're okay doing that, but not everyone is. That doesn't mean those people should be penalized. As it stands, the current AoE attack indicator is just random pulsing that's nonsensical. Having it be in sync with the cast timer would actually allow us all to play more strategically.

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That isn't playing strategically. That's like playing computer chess and hitting the hint button every single turn. You're not learning how to play and devising your own strategy, you're letting the system dictate how you move rather than relying on your own common sense and intuition.

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Originally Posted by Moheeheeko

Or you could actually look at the cast bar on the mob. the only people who wouldnt be able to do that are healers, and 99% of aoe in this game has a shorter cast time than a heal spell that isnt instant and should move as soon as the red pops up.

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Healers can keep the boss on focus or on their primary target and use mouse over macros. So they are not given a free pass to stand in aoes just because they are healing.

The pulse is there to improve visibility for people with colour-blindness. Making it slower and hence harder to notice is going to kinda defeat the point of having it.

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Originally Posted by Iymala

Healers can keep the boss on focus or on their primary target and use mouse over macros. So they are not given a free pass to stand in aoes just because they are healing.

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I wasnt aware of that (and my main is whm) but nowhere did I say it was ok for them to stand in aoe, In fact I said the opposite.

Haven't been able to try it out personally yet, but does this make it easier to see monster aoe while standing in water?

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Originally Posted by FJerome

The pulse is there to improve visibility for people with colour-blindness. Making it slower and hence harder to notice is going to kinda defeat the point of having it.

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I understand it's to improve visibility, but perhaps they could have it fill up steadily as well as have the pulse, so that it's more easily noticeable and makes sense. Also, being able to change the color would definitely make it much easier to notice which is why I posted about this.