Hi guys - I will try to be as absolutely succinct as I can, although that is not my forte:
I "main" a MNK in my coil team, but across two chars I have:
Ehatye Feytes: i86 MNK, i81 PLD, i75 WAR, i72 SCH
Nyne Feytes: i85 BLM
The BLM is moot, I just spend all my myth on him, he has 4 coil pieces and is on his way to being i90 in 2 weeks with no other drops. The only thing i70 on my MNK is earrings, while my PLD carries 4 i70 accessories. My question, or conundrum, pertains to how I should proceed spending my mythology tomes. Should I finish going i90 on my MNK as priority #1 for T5 (we have t1-t4 on farm, and are working on X modes until I think we are ready), or would it be acceptable/advisable to spend some Myth tomes on my Tank chars?
WAR is my favorite class in the game, and hes rockin' a mix between allagan, Hoplite, Darklight, and CT, while my PLD is i80-i90 on the left side, and i70 on the right (aside from Hero Fending ring). I don't have a ton of interest in spending on my SCH, as I literally only use him in a pinch, or in T2. My plan was to just say "F-it" on the MNK, wait for my Allagan Head/Hands/Ear/Ring (to finish i90), and to start buying tank gear, starting with Heros Bracelet and Earring, and farm the crap out of Ultima/Garuda for tank necklace/ring. If I'm diligent, that would leave me with an i86 PLD, an i81 WAR, and an i86 MNK.
Sorry for the long post, I'm wrapping up. The reason I have so much focus on my tanks is that A. I'm pretty good at it, B. It is INFINITELY easier to get X mode groups on my tanks and C. i86 is pretty darn good for my MNK, and I feel like I don't NEED to get to i90 to beat T5 and continue to progress, I have something like 4700 hp in group with food.
Any thoughts, ruminations, practical applications, new perspectives, advice, etc? I don't want to gimp my coil group by spending myth on what is essentially an alt, but in terms of making my own personal progress, I feel allocating my mythological resources to my tanks will help me the most.
Thank you very much if you managed to read this whole post and not get bored and leave!
i86 vs i90
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02-19-2014, 12:13 AMEhaytei86 vs i90
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02-19-2014, 12:45 AMSizeSo your real question boils down to: Is 4700 hps enough to survive in T5?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ehayte
I don't know myself, but I've condensed your post to hopefully get you a quicker answer :3 -
02-19-2014, 01:08 AMEhayteThanks, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Size
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02-19-2014, 01:15 AMAlcyon1Yes. 4700 is enough. A full i90 healer will be way lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by Size
4500 is close of the limit if the fireballs are taken by 3 people, our OT (or WHM) uses Stoneskin and our Scholar uses some shield (I don't know the spell in english :p) to prevent some death. You don't need to be i90 for T5. -
02-19-2014, 01:17 AMOoshima
No, you don't need i90 to beat T5. I think T5 was build around players having approximately i80-i82, when challenging it when it was released. Being i90 is just overgearred for the whole of BC.
For DPS a min of 4.1K HP is required to survive 4 stack fireball. -
02-19-2014, 01:18 AMPArcher
For some reason I get the feeling I was running *something* with you recently...hopefully you weren't one of the MNK I was playing with that kept dying to silly things...
Anyway, it really depends on what kind of build you're going for with MNK. Do you need the Hero accessories, or are going after an Allagan or Primal one? If the latter, don't bother to buy the Myth and either farm Primals or wait til 2.2; the difference isn't that big, esp if you have a melded i70. If you need a left-hand piece to replace an i70/i80, then buying the Myth may be fine, but you need to weigh your desire to get that i90 vs waiting a month to farm Coil for the "better" piece.
Same thing for tank...what are you going for? If you want an Allagan piece, don't buy the Myth at this point and just wait til 2.2. -
02-19-2014, 01:47 AMEhayteI was MTing Garuda X for you, I think, on my PLD. One shotted it iirc.Quote:
Originally Posted by PArcher
I am going in Coil as MNK, so any MNK gear is mine, and I roll against DRG for accessories, but yes, I am going for Allagan for my MNK to get BiS, eventually.
On my tanks, my ultimate goal would be to get my WAR/PLD geared completely to do stuff like X modes and Leviathon outside of my FC.
I think from the posts here I will go with what I want to do, in spending myth on my tanks and spending time farming CT/Ultima/Garuda for more tank gear. -
02-19-2014, 01:51 AMDeelo
There are a bunch of videos on youtube that show people winning with less HP...
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02-19-2014, 02:01 AMEhayteYeah, I mean - I was more asking about if I am being a D to my coil group by not spending my myth on my coil job, or if my effectiveness would be at least reasonably similar between i86 or i90. I wasn't sure if there was a clear break point or a razor thin dps check that that iLVL increase would dramatically effect in T5. Videos can only tell us so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deelo
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02-19-2014, 02:16 AMOoshimaNope, you are fine with what you have right now. How you want to spend your myth is your choice. You are well geared for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ehayte
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02-19-2014, 02:41 AMEhayte
Thanks everybody!
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02-19-2014, 02:59 AMMyrhn
Yes that is more than enough
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02-19-2014, 06:12 AMOblit
I beat T5 on MNK when I only had ilvl86-ilvl87 gear, I was wearing overmeld Choker and Ring with VIT+10 each. I was 20ish HP away from 5K HP but I you dont need anymore than 4.2k to survive T5.
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02-19-2014, 07:57 AMKuroyashaThere's your answer :). Go ahead and gear it. Either way we'll be farming coil and and myth in a month anyway. I was gonna gear my PLD in CT armor (currently i70), but by the time I do, 2.2 will be out so why bother? I just put it on my brd since i play that class more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ehayte
The real question is...when 2.2 comes out and you have your classes in i90, will you gear your mnk for your coil grp, or will you gear the class that you like the most with the new tome gear? :3 -
02-20-2014, 12:33 AMPetiteMalFleur
If you feel gearing your PLD will give you access to more content then I'd suggest doing that.
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02-20-2014, 01:53 AMEhayteMy MNK will get all the +i90 gear that I can get to start with. For the good of the group! I love my monk, but I just think WAR is super-much more fun, partly due to the fact that its so easy to get groups and there is more challenge to it than PLD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuroyasha
I did a little bit of spending today... WAR is now i78, PLD is i83, they will each get another iLVL or 2 before the week is over, more if I can manage to scrounge up some drops (4 Garuda kills and 5 Ultima kills with no Tank accessories dropping).Quote:
Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur
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02-20-2014, 02:19 AMKuroyashaKilled Ultima 4 times yesterday as PLD....and Striking ring drops 3 straight followed by aiming choker....but when i go as mnk or bard i get nothing >_>. RNG man...rng smh lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Ehayte
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02-20-2014, 08:00 PMHitome
If HP is your only concern, just spend it elsewhere.
However, i90 MNK STR is a little bit different than your current MNK's STR (the primary attribute you focus on). If you had T5 and Ex primals on farm, I'd say it wouldn't matter. But since you don't, you probably should be gearing up the class you take into coil.
As someone mentioned, your myth purchases really won't matter here in a month due to the cap possibly being removed and T1-5 being farmable.