To all FC Leaders....Can you Help me PLEASE! (^.^)

I really hope that you will be able to help me with my problems, maybe some of you got same as my. Im simply out of ideas and dont know any more what to do!


Ive joined FF14 at the release of FF14 with some of my close real life friends. Together with them, we made FC for casual gamers. It was really fun our company was never big it was from 22 members, at this time we met a lot of friendly players, we helped each other, we did questing, dns, we helped each other for crafting. As long as people wanted to do something together if no was really fine too, after all we wanted that everybody plays as he/she wanted, there were no set rules and every one could use all the features of the company. Also on the way i met a lot nice people and we became friends.

Here is the thing after patch 2.1 everything, went down hill ! Some of my real life friends quit, a lot of members simply didnt joined anymore others toled that they quit! I can give you the reason witch are from fiasco with FC Housing prices to lagg issue etc. but thats not the subject now. So basically is only me left and 3 more people. The people in my friend list , most of them are gone too !


From this point i was trying to recruit new members, to rebuild the community and nothing is working from what i tried until now. Ive tried shouting, talking with people, putting party with info in the PF, i also put a thread in my server forum that im recruiting. None of them really works. The little people came in the company said its ok that we are so little and will be happy to help me rebuild the company. They play for one day, after that i dont see them 2-3 days and all of a sudden they left the company with no words.


Please help me, am i doing something wrong, can you give me some advices and suggestions!

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I am a FC Officer and I see and feel where you are coming from. Most everyone in the game has already joined a FC and so withought "Stealing" members or absorbing another FC all you will be able to do is grab new players. I would really think about just joining into a Larger FC unless you are really patient and want to see it through. We have had a hard time recruiting as well and are doing everything we can right now. We are a decent size FC and it is really hard to grow. Just post advertisement everywhere you can think of that playerw would visit who play the game and that is all you can do. Set up a macro to spam out your FC and run it while you are in game every so often to try and snatch up some players.

in before the trolls.

As a guild leader in other games i know how hard it can be to keep recruits coming in. Different things bring players "into the flock" so to speak. Maybe you can find another FC that is lacking leadership and get them to merge with your FC. Either way I hope you continue to enjoy the game ^^ Good luck!

A lot of the people that tend to stay longer are people that are referred by other people. My only advice is to always recruit potential members + friends + friends of friends because the retention rate is usually low. Having said that, obviously just mass recruiting doesn't work. Just shouting in town about what your FC is about doesn't work either. You need to show your commitment by helping people out, helping your own members out and start to build a reputation on the server. Most people that I have recruited randomly since 2.0 are gone, and the people that are left are from 1.0 or people that know each other. If you are really having that many issues, I would suggest joining a larger FC just to meet other people and see how things go from there as well.
And one piece of advice I would always keep in mind is to never expect any member to always be there in the future be it friend or family. And also don't take it too hard on yourself when people leave, it just happens.

I run a FC on Balmung and I find that helping people that are shouting for help is a good way to get members. I've absorbed an FC that didn't have people to kill Titan and were shouting to buy wins. I offered to Kill Titan for free. Started conversation about why they didn't have people or help and they ended up joining my FC. Granted this was a very small FC of 8 members but if someone is shouting for help cause no one in the FC will help them they might come join you. As I see it a FC is there to help each other out and do things as a group. So I don't like to see FCs full of people but they don't have active members or they will not help the lowbies. Just offer your help and people will come to you. Easy way to get members!

Indeed this is how i met most for my friends in the game, by helping them.....very often i help players in the game especially the low lvl players after all we high lvl exp palyers we should help the others in order that they will be able to enjoy the game better and besides like so you can meet a lot of nice people :) I met one of my closest friends in the game by starting doing emotions to one another :)

I know very well that people wont be allays there after all this is a sub game and just like me they also have real life, to study or work etc. :)
The main problem im having is that shortly after players join in my Company they leave! And they dont say a thing why, they are simply gone. When im there i allays ask if someone need help but the new members allays say is fine, even first thing when they come in im telling them if they need any help or want to do something together to simply to tell me or the others witch are on and will help them imidiatly, that was one of the main reasons why i lvled my Crafter classes to lvl 45.

This is the thing i really dont understand, is it me or am i doing something wrong

Here's my honest suggestion, at this stage of the game you have established FC's and new ones. New ones will be small and very very likely stay small, established ones will likely maintain the level of people they have give or take. Your best bet is to find like minded FC's and merge. If you only have so few left anyhow you could also just establish yourselves in a new FC entirely and abandon ship. The problem is with only 3 or so members a merger is going to be hard, nobody wants to merge into a 3 man company and getting people to join on an indidvidual level is going to be that much harder as well.

I would honestly just talk with the remaining members and find a new FC together taht you can all feel comfortable in.

What's more important to you: your FC or the FC members?

not wanted to sound rude but most ppl went through coil statics FCs

as casuals FCs doesnt help you by the time you hit endgame contents as you will look for EXP players there

im endgame FC leader while we are 45 members but all are the finest players in the server

If you ask me FCs right now are completely unnecessary. Being a 1.0 player a FC is more like a glorified 9th LS and really has no real benefit to it, sure you get some buffs, cheaper teleports in the area of your FC and a house, none of which though are really needed. However, since I just started a FC on my alt I feel that the biggest problem is that FC can hold 512 members or whatever it is, which in some servers is a ton of players. I feel FCs should be smaller than LS, because LS are social whereas FC should be smaller and have more of a tight knit feel to them. Also, server restrictions do not help the situation with the insane amount of members a FC can hold. As stated earlier in this stage of the game though, much like content is being cannibalized so will smaller FCs because there is really no room to expand since most players are content with whatever FC they are in.

I really don't know how to help you here. My FC has remained populated because we are all old and new friends who tackle all content the game has to offer. We have only gained ONE single new recruit since creation. If you build a good personal bond with your members and your FC does stuff as a group then I don't see why you would be having issues gaining/retaining members.

Basically.. This game is dieing. A lot of the people logging on to play only log on to cap their myth and not miss there bcb loot and then they don't log on for the rest of the week.

SE made this a theme park MMO and this theme park is lacking in rides, there aren't even decent side attractions. And when they make new rides, they turn the old rides into kiddy rides no one wants to go on anymore.

This game has the potential to be great, but as it stands now, it's a cluster F of stuff that's not working well together.

But, putting my opinions aside, let's discuss the concept of an FC in FFXIV.

What exactly is an FC (Guild) for?

To me, an FC is a place for like minded individuals to group together for a common set of goals. In world of warcraft that was progression raiding. Every night tuesday through monday we formed a 25 man raid and progressed the hardest raids out at the time trying to get server firsts and to be one of the most progressed guilds on the server. In doing so we formed strong bonds and became friends. In down time we would PVP raid Iron Forge or help each other level alts by power leveling them through dungeons and the recruit a friend system. We would also help gather materials for crafting jewels for jewel crafting and making high end crafting items etc.

So here's the problem in FFXIV,

1. No content in the game that a full group can que for requires more than 8 players. As such an FC ends up with 1 or more 8 man core groups going to BCB. This causes each group to become unconnected from the rest of the FC
2. There are no high end items to craft to gather materials for
3. There is no open world PVP
4. Alts don't need power leveled or help leveling at all
5. You can't do the daily roulletes in a group (which is all anything really runs outside of BCB and Crystal Tower)

In short, all of the content in this game is really designed for casual people to just que up for solo outside of that 8 man group.

As such, many people like myself find it easier to just make a linkshell for BCB. I happen to be in an FC right now, but that's only because I found a static to run with in this FC. If I didn't have a BCB Static, I wouldn't be in the FC, period. I also don't need to be in an FC to have friends. I can just make my own Linkshell and invite people I like and kick people I don't like.

There is very little reason in this game right now to even be in an FC aside from having a house (which serves no functional purpose) and FC buffs like (5% experience) which is negligible and you can easily go without.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

Basically.. This game is dieing. 90% of the people logging on to play only log on to cap their myth and not miss there bcb loot and then they don't log on for the rest of the week.....snip........

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What a load man. 90%...?????? 90%???I couldn't even read the rest, wasn't worth it.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

Basically.. This game is dieing. 90% of the people logging on to play only log on to cap their myth and not miss there bcb loot and then they don't log on for the rest of the week.

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lol at 90%

my server always active so no way thats only 10% of ppl on

Haha, my bad for throwing random numbers out. But why are allt he people on and playing? What are they doing?

Running Pharos Sirus*, atempt 1654 at titan extreme? Pugging turn 1-4? Wiping on Turn 5? Leveling alts?

I bet half of them are capping myth and going to play Minecraft or Lol.

I say this because I've seen it. Playing this game is like working for a high labor factory where the employee turnover rate is super high. Some new people come in to work, they can't handle it and 3 or 4 leave and 4 new people come in to replace them. That's almost every static I've seen since game launch. At one point I was beside 7 statics running bcb which ended with 2 and eventually both of those broke up for the most part and all that was left from any of them was 2 to 4 people from each finding new homes, then going through the same thing again.

Now on the flipside, take world of warcraft. I ran that progressions guild, I was the GM. And I ran it for the entire WOTLK expansion and from start to finish we were 95% intact. We lost no more than 5 of 25 people from the original run. It was a good ride.

A linkshell I formed at game launch with 100+ people in it, has lost all but 5 people, 90 some dead accounts in it and I don't know which ones to kick (no indiciation in the UI as to when someone logged in on linkshells).

This games still new, people playing it actively just haven't hit the wall yet. Once you run out of things to do (and I'm not interested in getting every job or craft to 50) it loses it's flare.

Like I said, this game could be great, but right now it has too man annoyances to entertain me, and many people like me. A year from now I'm sure it will be full of content and they will have fixed many of it's issues (like multi job dungeon runs) and a non existent player market. But most of all, a world with a reason to explore it, not a town full of duty poppers.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

Running Pharos Sirus*, atempt 1654 at titan extreme? Pugging turn 1-4? Wiping on Turn 5? Leveling alts?

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at least they do something rather than just myth cap and log out thats what i wanted to reach

I was able to recruit 70 members in four days when I made an FC on my alt two weeks ago. You run a player search. Level 1-25. See who doesn't have a FC Tag. And then politely send them a tell. Apologize for interupting them. Ask them if they'd be interested in joining a FC that helps out new players. If they ask what you offer: You give advice, help them with duties they get stuck on, have people their level they could party with, and that your FC even gives a +5% (or 10%) exp buff. In my case I was also able to offer free melding, HQ crafting, and housing.

Half of these members will stop playing in the first week you invite them. And it also depends on your leadership skills and whether you can maintain fun conversations with the FC on a daily basis. But 20% of the people you invite should become long-time members. Rinse and repeat until you have the size you want.

I lead a large FC on Ragnarok, and we went through the same hard times you are describing and even now it can get frustrating, for example we have over 100 active members but are still yet to get ourselves a house..

We have absorbed several smaller FC's on the way to this number and i wouldnt be put off by the thought of merging into another FC, I am a lax leader and anyone who brings me a good idea or wants to help out is welcome so suggesting this to a bigger FC might work in your favour (maybe not leet FCs lol) for example we took in 15 members from another FC and two of those are now in leadership roles.

The best time to recruit is on a patch drop though cos thats when people return to find they have been booted out of their FC for being inactive.. for example my FC has a 90day inactivity cull

But as i said i've seen the hard times.. there were times we have 3 people online and i thought that was it for the FC now we have 20-30 at one time and 80+ over a 24hr period.. just stick at it and get some leadership who want it to succeed as much as you want it to..

Also giving every rank the same responsibilities is a bad bad idea.. you need to seperate out members and leaders.. i am a social FC master and yet we still have that divide.. people know who to go to to get stuff done then etc.

Finally try making ranks to distinguish yourself from other FCs.. people always comment on my ranking system when they join

http://gyazo.com/746eea6ede448fc6b8792fb95013ec0d.png

As you can see we have a new rank with no members in it yet above officer, this is for someone to go into to take a more "me" role as i am burning out from all the work i put in lol.. officer has become the role that just puts on buffs and moves peoples ranks around.. coin counters are in charge or finding ways to raise money for the FC, recruiter speaks for itself, the end game ranks make it easy to see people who might be able to help you if you are looking for a certain role (multi being one of each) foot soldier is the rank you drop in the FC on with no access to chest and Yeoman is when you have been active enough for us to trust you with things like chest access :)

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Originally Posted by Taei

And one piece of advice I would always keep in mind is to never expect any member to always be there. And also don't take it too hard on yourself when people leave, it just happens.

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Really pay attention to this. The person behind the character does have a life (I hope...). Odds are the game is fairly low on their priority list. So if the "active" population isn't on as often as desired or some one does leave a FC, PLEASE DO NOT TAKE IT PERSONALLY. It's only a game ^^

The difficulty of recruitment and retention of members depends on your guilds style.

Casual Free Companys will commonly run into the problem of once people get to endgame if you are not capable of completing all the content people will leave you and go to an endgame guild or lowman static guild.

It is also bad that the turn over rate is fairly high on new members. So new guilds have it rough because people fear they will fall apart quickly. At least in our guild new members turn over is about 60-70% recently. Turn over as in quitting the guild, game, or just not logging in anymore, larger guild it effects less then smaller ones because they have a base already.

So the OP has 2 problems. 1 it is a casual guild and it is small currently. Both those are negatives.

MY suggestions are doing this:

1) Try to be something more then just a chat channel. Do Crystal tower together, Maps, dungeons, work on some extremes, Coil if possible. Even if it is only 2-3 days a week. Set stuff up. Let people know if they join your guild even though it is casual you will do stuff together. You do not have to make it mandatory. But talk to your members and discuss what day you want to do stuff. So maby Tuesdays are Crystal tower day. Thursdays are coil, and Sundays are insert event here.

2) Invest in some voice chat program if you do not have one. In my experience when people are able to talk to each other they are less likely to leave. Most the people my guild who leave are the ones that are rarely on teamspeak.

3) Invest in a guild site if you do not have 1. Several free ones out there that are decent that require no coding. Just have to deal with some ad banners if you do not want to pay. Guildwork is a nice one.

4) Talk to all your members and get help recruiting. Most my members who stay in the guild are friends of friends of friends. I will get 1 recruit that will like the guild and then ask 2-3 more people. One of their friends will bring 2-3 more and so on. I suggest utilizing the party finder and shouts. As well as forums around the web Lodestone, Zam, Eorzeapedia, and so on. Just post in the world sections and so on you are looking for members and describe you guild.

You can try a merger with another guild, that sometime works more times then not it fails. Since you are a casual FC it has a better shot then a endgame free company which is usually rules based.

I know the nightmares of recruitment in this game first hand and feel your pain. I think almost every guild was there at one point. This game punishes people in guilds. It is a strict 8man min/max for almost all the content at endgame, 4/4 for everything before it. It is why you see alot of people just run around in Lnkshells or 5-8man free companys. It is more of a static game then guild game, a really bad design for a mmo. To build a successful guild you have to give people a reason to want to join you over just being with their 8man static group. Running a guild in this game is way more stressful then it should be because of this.

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Originally Posted by Galactimus

I was able to recruit 70 members in four days when I made an FC on my alt two weeks ago. You run a player search. Level 1-25. See who doesn't have a FC Tag. And then politely send them a tell. .

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Sure i like that idea but how about you want mature players?
I don mind all kind of age in a guild but since most guild players/friends im with are above 23+
asking people there ages i feel its abit rude perosnality wise.

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Originally Posted by Tagihi

Sure i like that idea but how about you want mature players?
I don mind all kind of age in a guild but since most guild players/friends im with are above 23+
asking people there ages i feel its abit rude perosnality wise.

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This as well as quality > quantity. I only have like 58 members, 90% of which are active and I know them all. They are not just faceless names on a long list of faceless names. I get to know them and if they are in need of a FC I'll bring them in. I can't stand people who join FCs get/don't get what they want and split because you've served your purpose or failed to appease them.

The problem is raid size... It's really difficult trying to manage 3-4 active raid groups, and when some don't work out for 1 or 2 weeks people start to leave or get annoyed and look for pug static groups.

I wish they moved to a 24 man setup and stuck with that, that way we can have 1 active raid group and not 3-4 all over the place.

I've jumped ship from 2 FC, Because they where falling apart. You will also get this kind of person.

As for people that shout. I avoid that kind of FC. They just looking for quantity vs quality.

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Originally Posted by Rekujen

The problem is raid size... It's really difficult trying to manage 3-4 active raid groups, and when some don't work out for 1 or 2 weeks people start to leave or get annoyed and look for pug static groups.

I wish they moved to a 24 man setup and stuck with that, that way we can have 1 active raid group and not 3-4 all over the place.

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So far I help manage my FC's 3 coil groups every week and all 3 groups are progressing at about the same pace except mine which is slowly learning T5 while the other groups gear up to meet DPS checks and such. It's only difficult when the people you invite to FC were shout players or blind invites.

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Originally Posted by Kewitt

I've jumped ship from 2 FC, Because they where falling apart. You will also get this kind of person.

As for people that shout. I avoid that kind of FC. They just looking for quantity vs quality.

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This, I avoid shouting because I like to befreind and know someone before I invite them to meet my dysfunctional family. It helps keep things drama free and all abouts the fun. :3

The problem, quite honestly, is : what do you offer ?

If it is only for having a channel to discuss with friends, why not maintain a LS ? This is the perfect place for it, and all you really need to keep in touch (friendlist is much worse in this regard).

If you want to maintain a FC, you need to offer stuff to your peeps. And i don't mean "a nice play to be" or whatever crap. You need events. Most likely it means tackling end game. Look at it this way: you have casual players in your FC. They can either move toward boredom, move toward endgame, or stay casual -- you will have all 3 happening. Boredom people you will lose no matter what. If you don't tackle endgame you will also lose those moving to it. Your retention will be abyssmal, and there is no way you will replace them.

I want to tank you all for your responses (^.^)

Unfortunately one of the main issue im experience stays and i still dont know what to do about it. None of you tackled the problem (^.^)


Be for anyone join i make sure to tell him everything about our FC and in what state it is. When they accept to join they play for one day, log out for 2-3 days and then they are gone with no info.For the last week and a half i got 4 new members in my company and 3 of them did exactly this. But with the other member we started to talk and know each other, and yesterday i helped him for the main story quest and CT quest, even that we were only two we had a blast.

Here is the question, what have i done wrong by the other new members so that they leave and they dont want to speak with me.....when im on im allays ready to help any one from the FC and not only i often help diffrent players in the game if i see that they need help and i can help them. This is what i dont understand and dont know what to do about it. Can some one help with that ?

That will always happen Mikote. Especially if they've only been playing for a few days. You WILL lose the majority of the people you invite in the first week - and there's nothing you can do to stop that from happening. They may get bored of the game, dislike the game for various reasons, go to a different server, join a friends FC, find a FC with a cooler name / crest (personal opinion), timezone issues, language barriers, etc.

Only 20 of the 70 people I invited are active. 50 of them haven't signed in for two weeks (and have been given an Inactive rank.) But the 20 who still play sign in everyday and participate. It's simply a matter of going through this recruiting process over and over again until you have a strong list of active players who enjoy the game.

Agreed with above, I had that problem in 1.0 because nobody really talked to anyone. There isn't much you can do to keep them logging in. Again, while helping others, try and get to know them abit before jumping to add them to your ranks. People who aren't going to stick around make it painfully obvious.

Just keep at it and slowly you'll bolster your ranks with quality players who will stick around and help you maintain an active FC.

Mikote, I think you need to just understand that it isn't possible to please everyone. I realize your in a tough situation right now, and it sucks to be in. I lead an FC in Goblin that has around 50 players right now, all of which log in every day or every other day. We are all at different levels/points in the game, but we help each other and stay active. Plus I'm very friendly and try and help anyone I can.

We had over 100 members at one point in time. I can think of 5-10 of those members that I am really good friends with, but the progression of our FC didn't match their playstyle so they found a different FC to play with. It sucks, but it happens. You can't do and be everything for everyone at all times. As others have said, don't take things too seriously.

The best way to recruit players is to play the game. I have recruited 5 players in the last week to round out our FC's 2nd coil group, just because they saw how competent I was in endgame raids. But I think another thing that will help out, is get yourself a voicechat program/server and advertise it to any members you recruit. When someone is mindlessly typing to someone else, there is more of a chance for a disconnect. If you are verbally communicating with the people in your FC, you get to know them much better. You actually get to witness what will make them laugh, or get upset. You can become more of friends than you would just through typing. This has helped me retain players. My FC vchat room always has at least 8-10 people in it, and we are all generally happy when another member logs in. Many of us didn't know each other before FFXIV, but I would like to think that all of these people are pretty good friends to me now.

Another point: I personally built the basement of my FC during my leveling. I never used DF, always shouted for my dungeons, and leveled through dungeons and not fate. During runs i would be social and show that i was competent, knowledgeable and fun at times. When the runs ended, whenever someone was cool and seemed competent, i would /tell them and discuss about the fact that it was nice going with them, and i was building a communauty of like-minded player. I continued to do this during my early stages of HL dungeons (AK runs back in the days more than WP).

It was a lot and lot of work, but it did pay off. A lot of these players at the time left since then, but some are still there, and it especially allowed me to have people move out more slowly and thus start building some momentum. You are basically back to square one here - 3 or 4 people only. Your FC is going to be dead most of the time even during peak hours. You need to start building something again, from the ground up.

From my perspective as a FCless player, you all look the same. Every recruitment message I see tends to be along the lines of something like, "Recruiting casual or hardcore players, focus on leveling, crafting, end-game raiding, have *insert VOIP*, we have # raid groups, very friendly, etc." Sometimes more, sometimes less, but none giving me a reason why I should join a FC or even why the FC wants me aside from being +1 to member count.

As for member retainment, there are a number of reasons that could be an issue. Some players will simply quit; it has nothing to do with you or your FC, they were going to quit anyways. Others may be interested in your FC and then decide it's not for them - in this case, you should try to be honest and ask what they didn't like or would have preferred to see. Forming long lasting bonds is the best way to both gain members and to retain them. That means you should chat and interact with prospective members for days or even weeks in advance instead of run a duty, have a good time, and invite.

I can relate to the OP... sort of. After I left my first FC, I joined another one... then that leader quit and broke his FC before he left... so I decided I would just build my own. That was 11/12/13 (cool date not intended, but I wanted to mention it anyway). I brought in a few VERY close friends and remnants from the old FC... but we were still VERY small for a long time. Like you said, a lot of people did not want to join BECAUSE we were so small and simply not established yet. So, I created a linkshell. You can only have one Free Company but you can have EIGHT Linkshells. Any time I would meet someone nice in any sort of PUG situation (hardmodes, extreme modes...), I would offer to toss them an invite.

When it came to Free Company events, I would always give FC members first priority (loyalty > all), but for a long time we did not have enough active FC members to get anything done... so, I would ask the LS if anyone wanted to join. From there, we would get friendly pugs we were used to playing with. Over time, some of these people enjoyed playing with us so much that they chose to leave their old FC and join mine... slowly making it bigger. I'd tell them over and over again how small it is, and warn them that it is different from other Free Companies... but if they insist they are okay with that, I will throw them an invite. Now my FC is still small, but full of active people who are capable of doing any content in the game. We organize fundraising events twice a week to work toward a company house. As we grow larger and more established, people in the linkshell choose to join us. I still invite people to the linkshell, but I don't need to ask my linkshell 'reserve' to join as often. HOWEVER -- if a linkshell person needs help with anything, I still still help out. I don't want to abandon the LS.

My advice to you, OP: don't try to directly recruit. You'll get frustrated. I made a post on my server forums and have only gained one member that way, partially because he saw my thread, bumped into me in PvP, and decided to send me a tell. Instead of directly recruiting or shouting, grow your linkshell, and increase your Free Company's reputation by word of mouth. Create a FC website (there are many free methods to this... I personally use guildwork), and plan events regularly so that your active members WILL stay in the group and have something to look forward to. Set the FC message frequently. Be sure to help out everyone at all levels of play.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

A year from now I'm sure it will be full of content and they will have fixed many of it's issues (like multi job dungeon runs) and a non existent player market. But most of all, a world with a reason to explore it, not a town full of duty poppers.

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Key word "Year" what alot of the ppl playing this game for get, JUST like in WoW and FFXI it toke 2+years be for the game was GOOD, BOTH WoW and XI started out with 0 to no content for the 1st year. FFXIV ARR is NOT FFXVI 1.0! You cant count the last 2-3years of a game as it 1st year. FFXIV: ARR is a NEW MMO it need time to build.. and don't for get alot of ppl started at lv50 and must of them are the ones QQing over this 0 Content.

I myself have all 50s but 3 Jobs and yes I'm slowy getting burned out too.. But 2.2 is coming and there will be 60-90 more day of content to play agan be for I get burned out again. So what i do it work on my FC and help member gear out are to get rdy for the new content to come. As a Leader it's my job after all to look after my FC.