My friend Von pointed this out to me with one example so I thought I’d look deeper into it. We all know SE swapped things back and forth between Lightning Returns and FFXIV: ARR, such as the Miqo’te outfit for Lightning in her game, and the Lightning Fates in FFXIV… but does it go deeper than that:
In FFXIV we switch to jobs using the following Soul Crystals:
Soul of the Dragoon
Soul of the Summoner
Soul of the Monk
Soul of the Warrior
Soul of the Paladin
Soul of the Scholar
Soul of the Bard
Soul of the White Mage
Soul of the Black Mage
It seems that Lightning Returns uses this same system for some of her Schemata:
Soul of the Dragoon
Soul of the Paladin
Soul of the White Mage
Soul of the Black Mage
But there are some we do not have, such as:
Soul of the Red Mage
Soul of the Blue Mage
Soul of the Thief
Could SE be hinting at jobs that are coming to FFXIV for those who see this?! It is possible that these souls mean that these three jobs might be coming.
Thoughts?
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02-15-2014, 12:58 AMKaiKatzchenLightning Returns gives hints to FFXIV: ARR Jobs coming? (Maybe?!)
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02-15-2014, 01:00 AMSotek
Have a link for the Red Mage AF?
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02-15-2014, 01:25 AMBrady672
Although them appearing in Lightning Returns means nothing to 14, I still want all those classes.
So in short, I'm optimistic, but wary that the connection is meaningless. -
02-15-2014, 01:28 AMnecrosis
This is about as far fetched as the people who try and make connections between Valve announcements and HL3.
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02-15-2014, 01:30 AMTupsi
If there's any hints it would come from SE's previous FF MMORPG, FFXI.
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02-15-2014, 01:35 AMDaenerys_SedaiHow about a list? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sotek
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/L...asy_XIII_Garbs -
02-15-2014, 01:38 AMKaiKatzchenI don't see how it is far fetchedQuote:
Originally Posted by necrosis
SE openly admitted that people working on 14 and 13 were talking and giving one others stuff for the others game
Both games happen to use the exact same 'Soul' names for the exact same jobs in both games
13 already has stuff from 14 in the game, and 14 has items from 13.
Regardless, it is an interesting theory and I don't think it's that far fetched, knowing the people from each game talked and collaborated. And this thread isn't about it being true, it's about the idea that the jobs in 13 and 14 match up. Have some fun with it, lol~! -
02-15-2014, 01:54 AMEnkidohThat's not entirely correct - the only true FFXIV reference in LR:FFXIII was the inclusion of the miqo'te starting gear as a costume for Lightning (plus Grand Company swords and shields as well), more as a joke than a deliberate attempt to tie the games together, and Yoshi-P jokingly said he'd repay the compliment by "finding some way to allow Lightning to visit Eorzea in ARR", which resulted in the 'Lightning Strikes' event in ARR that became cross marketing. That's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen
The Job garbs in LR:XIII are more of a reference to FFXIII-2 which had WHM and BLM costumes for Serah and Noel respectively as DLC (after all, the Job garbs in LR look nothing like FFXIV AF, pouring cold water on that theory.). -
02-15-2014, 02:00 AMTupsiI think people say far fetched because one is an offline game nowhere near in the same category and not even truly a 'job' system - Most of XI's devs are on XIV as well, so looking at XI's jobs would be a much bigger hint than LR.Quote:
Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen
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02-15-2014, 02:09 AMKaiKatzchenYush~! You are right which is basically what I said in a different way! Yoshi said that the LR people came to him asking for 14 stuff in their game so they said they would put LR stuff in our game! What you are saying is not that far off of what I said, just in a different way~! The two groups talks, gave one another items from the others game and put it into theirs~! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Enkidoh
Also I don't think it pours cold water on the theory at all that the clothes look different. If you look at Final Fantasy - Final Fantasy 14, they outfits are always changing. That is nothing new, heehee. The thing we found interesting was the fact that 14 uses the same exact soul name for their jobs as 13 does. This is supposed to be a fun thread, not a 'lets be all serious' thread, lol :)
Anyway I totally wouldn't put it past Yoshi to do it, he loves to give out info he shouldn't be giving and giving out hints to stuff that his boss kinda frowns on lol -
02-15-2014, 02:11 AMKaiKatzchenVery true, heehee! And if you think about it, Thief, Blue Mage and Red Mage were all Jobs in FFXI~! So if we look closer at the jobs in FFXI, then it still a possibility they will show up, because they were there as well~! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tupsi
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02-15-2014, 02:27 AMMogiLol plz don't bring up HL3 :PQuote:
Originally Posted by necrosis
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02-15-2014, 02:43 AMNaberrie
Those are all jobs that have existed within FF for years. They're FF staples. Their inclusion in FFXIII-3 isn't indicative that those jobs are coming to XIV. It's indicative that XIII-3 is an FF game.
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02-15-2014, 03:09 AMTiggyThe job named and the soul names are the same. So what? The job names have been the same if most ff games, and yet it doesn't mean anything more than it being a series thing. I think people arereading far too into it. Obviously those are potential jobs we would get because this is a Ff game.Quote:
Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen
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02-15-2014, 03:10 AMKaiKatzchen
Gah I give up! lol
Yes the outfits are different looking in FFXIV vs LR!
Yes it's traditional jobs of FF so OF COURSE they are going to be in other FF games!
The over all point is FFXIV and LR: XIII are using the same exact naming system for the souls in both games. Exactly the same. 100% exactly the same!
It's interesting, it's funny, and seeing that we know the two groups were talking to other another, it's intriguing! Blah, why can't there be some fun without dissecting it and making it so tedious!
Fine, fine, don't have fun with the info, heehee~! I'll go talk with people who are having fun with it over on my other chat system. :) -
02-15-2014, 06:54 AMDaenerys_Sedai
at the end of the day, how different looking can you make a core FF job? When one thinks about a red mage, a pointy hat immediately comes to mind. maybe a cape. whatever they decide, I guarantee it's going to be some flavor of that. As for the non-core jobs, I guess it depends on what it the job is.
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02-15-2014, 07:56 AMNoshpan
I don't care much for the Red or Blue Mages, but there is a distinct lack of a scouting role. I wouldn't be surprised if we see any new classes/jobs that we get something akin to Thief first.
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02-15-2014, 08:04 AMMardelQuote:
Originally Posted by Noshpan
If they by pass thief and red mage and don't implement them for years to come, I will be one happy lala. Unless they are a completely new concept in terms of play style and don't encroach on sch / mnk would they be worthwhile to add :/
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02-15-2014, 08:31 AMVanguard319
It's possible, I wouldn't dismiss the possibility outright.
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02-15-2014, 09:52 AMDuelleAll that tells me is that the localization team liked the sound of "Soul Of..." and carried it over to that game. Besides, Lightning's RDM outfit looks pretty terrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen
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02-15-2014, 10:12 AMNaberrieAgree. I pray that if RDM is ever added to XIV the AF doesn't look like that. It's atrocious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duelle