Only In-Progress Option PLEASE!

Can we please get an option for queuing for ONLY IN PROGRESS queues?

I'm sick and tired of having CT Pop and then have someone withdrawl at least 10 times before it actually goes through due to people withdrawling due to it not being an 'in progress' session of CT.

So please, please, please make an option for ONLY Queuing for In-Progress so that those people don't effect MY Queue.

Or you know, they could let you keep your current members, who have accepted and simply replace the one(s) who withdraw like every other MMO out there does.

I think that these people who just want a "fast" route to level capping or whatever reason they have for doing that bull crap should grow and play the darn game...stop trying to shortcut the system. People should que for "in progress" just to be a nice player and help the community when players drop the dungeon after getting their loot drop for the week or legitimately losing their connection.

I wish these idiots that withdraw over and over would realize that it says 0/4 for CT on any run now. It's been like that since 2.15 but people still seem to not get the hint :/

this is the biggest reason most of my FC use party finder instead of just queueing for DF, most of them avoid duity roulette as well for this reason

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Originally Posted by Hiraki

I wish these idiots that withdraw over and over would realize that it says 0/4 for CT on any run now. It's been like that since 2.15 but people still seem to not get the hint :/

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Except that they can see if it is inprogress or not... They just can't see from what point the inprogress is.

Inprogress fishing just needs to be punished somehow.

Inprogress ONRY should never be a thing.

Big fat no from my side. Instead I'd like to see the display going away completely that indicates whether the group is at the beginning of the dungeon or not. Take what you get instead of trying to get the best for you while the other people wait even longer. Duty finder is for everybody and nobody has unlimited spare time. I understand where you are coming from and that you are a "victim" and not one of the people who withdraw till they have their fast food meal but your sulution would cater these people and this is a no go for me.

the queue says Progress 0/1 now. therein lies the problem. SE said they wanted to stop in progress fishing, so what do they do, they still leave the progress behind but dont show what boss. this did absolutly NOTHING to help the problem. ONLY thing they need to do is remove the progress 0/1 completely and make it look like any other queue. That way people have no clue whatsoever that they may or may not be going into a PiP.

There's a few ways they can really fix the problem.

- Implementing an "In Progress Only" checkbox.
- Not showing if the run is in progress or not. (Removing the 'In Progress 0/1' completely)
- Implementing a penalty for withdrawing from the queue, preventing the person from queueing again for a specific amount of time.
- Changing how the queue works. Pool up all the people who accepted together (so they only have to accept once), then search for the missing slots individually.

The simple fix would be to not say whether the run is in progress or not, and don't allow people to drop in the first 10 mins of a run, by the time they have done that they might as well finish the run.

yes this is very annoying, one day it took like 20 readychecks after we got in finally.
They should do it like in WoW LFR, people who accepted invite go inside, and game is filling the rest.

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Originally Posted by Grimma

yes this is very annoying, one day it took like 20 readychecks after we got in finally.
They should do it like in WoW LFR, people who accepted invite go inside, and game is filling the rest.

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That would kinda suck; I like the fact that you can still do other activities while waiting for a duty finder party to fill up. If it put you in the dungeon, all you'd be able to do is sit there until the rest of the party showed up - which for DDs could be a long time. It would probably be hard on the servers as well, having who-knows how many instances just sitting idle with half-formed parties inside of them.

No, Delsus has the right idea. Don't tell a player whether a run is in-progress or not before they accept (not even sure why they DO tell the player this; it's hard to see any use for it that's not abuse), and apply some kind of incentive or penalty to prevent them from demanding a vote-kick if they don't like where they wound up.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

That would kinda suck; I like the fact that you can still do other activities while waiting for a duty finder party to fill up. If it put you in the dungeon, all you'd be able to do is sit there until the rest of the party showed up - which for DDs could be a long time. It would probably be hard on the servers as well, having who-knows how many instances just sitting idle with half-formed parties inside of them.

No, Delsus has the right idea. Don't tell a player whether a run is in-progress or not before they accept (not even sure why they DO tell the player this; it's hard to see any use for it that's not abuse), and apply some kind of incentive or penalty to prevent them from demanding a vote-kick if they don't like where they wound up.

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1. As you all have mentioned taking away 0/1 would help remedy SOME of the issues.
2. Whoever mentioned that withdrawing from a queue should be punished somehow... just imagine all the times you leave your pc/ps3 to notice "crap missed queue" now imagine this for casual player who waited 15min noticing they were penalized and now have a punishment on top of their queue time.
3. In progress only makes sense... however CT would not have as many issues if there wasn't a loot lock-out or chests had multiple drops instead of just 1 per. I don't think there would be an issue if we had this button.

I think what he means about the WoW thing is after your group forms and the instance is reserved it should take you in as soon as you hit commence. You would just be waiting for the team members who keep withdrawing. At least this way you could possibly get started on trash and that person hitting withdraw will get the 0/1 message they wanted since you will gave started the dungeon. Could work aside from the blue lock ring bit.

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Originally Posted by Hiraki

I wish these idiots that withdraw over and over would realize that it says 0/4 for CT on any run now. It's been like that since 2.15 but people still seem to not get the hint :/

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Oh, I got the hint mang. If after I join a 0/1 progress run and see that its barely at bone dragon, I leave and restart.

SE is literally walking all over me. Please fix this madness SE....it takes me now 10min to get 50myth instead of 5 like before. I have a family, kids and a job....I don't have time to play all day n night like these filthy hardcore/elite players.

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Originally Posted by Nekodar

Except that they can see if it is inprogress or not... They just can't see from what point the inprogress is.

Inprogress fishing just needs to be punished somehow.

Inprogress ONRY should never be a thing.

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That I did not know :x never joined an in-progress CT before. Either way it's ridiculous that people do this, if your time is so important that you cant spare 40 mins here and there to actually play then why bother paying? With the DR and just doing CT periodically it's more than enough to get myths/philos imo.

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Originally Posted by Tazo

Oh, I got the hint mang. If after I join a 0/1 progress run and see that its barely at bone dragon, I leave and restart.

SE is literally walking all over me. Please fix this madness SE....it takes me now 10min to get 50myth instead of 5 like before. I have a family, kids and a job....I don't have time to play all day n night like these filthy hardcore/elite players.

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lol

If SE removed the indicator that a particular dungeon is in progress and just let the normal commence/withdraw window pow would be easiest and simplest way to fix this.

I once was pro party in progress only tab, but the gathering of party members that accept and not throwing them into a fresh queue is a much better idea.

NO

//10char

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Originally Posted by Hiraki

I wish these idiots that withdraw over and over would realize that it says 0/4 for CT on any run now. It's been like that since 2.15 but people still seem to not get the hint :/

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It got changed to 0/1

/bump

Seriously, SE this feature (or a Withdrawl Penalty) is needed otherwise people will continue to be given hard times getting into end-game raids due to the PiP seekers.

You will never see an In Progress Only option. Because all it would take is too many tanks or healers using only In Progress Only and it would become near impossible to form a new party to begin with. It's the same logic they gave for why they're not adding Server Only DF option. If too many tanks or healers used it, the system would cease to function if you were on a server with no tanks or healers using DF.

So you will never see this.

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Originally Posted by Naberrie

You will never see an In Progress Only option. Because all it would take is too many tanks or healers using only In Progress Only and it would become near impossible to form a new party to begin with. It's the same logic they gave for why they're not adding Server Only DF option. If too many tanks or healers used it, the system would cease to function if you were on a server with no tanks or healers using DF.

So you will never see this.

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Alright, then I will settle for the Withdrawl Penalty, but one or both are NEEDED to curtail this asinine Behavior.

While the withdrawing does get rather silly at times. The queue pops are pretty instant on my tank, so it's not a big deal at all. Basically if you aren't queuing up as a tank, then you don't have much room to complain about the current situation.

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Originally Posted by Tridus1x

While the withdrawing does get rather silly at times. The queue pops are pretty instant on my tank, so it's not a big deal at all. Basically if you aren't queuing up as a tank, then you don't have much room to complain about the current situation.

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That... is completely backwards. <_<;;

The trouble is, the tanks have all the power in deciding whether or not to make a run happen. A few bad egg tanks are abusing this power to ensure that they get the most rewards for the least effort. Therefore, yes, it is the non-tanks, the victims of this, the folks who have to sit watching tanks join and withdraw one after another over the space of an hour, who have the right to complain.

The tanks have nothing to complain about. They get their duty roulette handed to them on a silver platter. As a PLD myself, I've witnessed this to be true - if I have to wait more than ten seconds to join an instance, I go, "huh, that's odd."

If you don't like it, go level a paladin.

















Did I do it right?

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Originally Posted by Tazo

If you don't like it, go level a paladin.
Did I do it right?

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I already have an IL78 WAR, but I hate Tower Duty, and if I'm not using my max vit gear, I feel like I'm cheating the party, so I feel bad if I am spiritbinding on my WAR...

I'm also leveling up GLA (Gods I hate LL GLA/PLD... I don't like Flashing for Aggro Control!). But not everyone can play tanks well, and the two TANK classes DO NOT Play Similarly.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

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If you are having a bad experience with a tank. That is why the vote kick feature is put in the game. You are purposely avoiding other solutions to the problems you are having. It's not hard, tell people to level up tanks if they don't want to deal with the current situation. In those 55mins they been waiting, they could of been level 50 by now.

Just handout a 15 min penalty for withdrawing. Problem solved.

No thanks. Thumbs down. If you withdraw three times in a row within a 5 minute period, you should get either a 15 or 30 minute penalty. I lean towards the latter. This way the people who withdraw by mistake once or twice, or have legit reasons to do so will not be penalized.

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Originally Posted by Nysneirdre

Just handout a 15 min penalty for withdrawing. Problem solved.

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5 minutes is enough for each withdrawal. If you're sitting there trying to spam duty finder, anything above a 5 minute wait is going to feel the same anyway. Making it longer starts to punish more sympathetic AFK situations (had to bio, something's burning, spouse aggro, etc) while waiting.

This kind of option does seem ideal, but unfortunately as soon as it becomes available your going to find out how useless it is. DDs think your waiting a long time now? well step in line with the hundreds of others that are waiting for in progress dungeons. The length of time its going to take to get into a dungeon with a queued join in progress option is going to be staggering. Many people will find out its much faster to complete the whole dungeon then to sit and wait for in progress. I suppose adding the option will solve the problems people are complaining about here. It will just become a option no one uses. Or at least they'll use it once and if it takes longer then 5 mins they will just queue.

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Originally Posted by Tridus1x

If you are having a bad experience with a tank. That is why the vote kick feature is put in the game. You are purposely avoiding other solutions to the problems you are having. It's not hard, tell people to level up tanks if they don't want to deal with the current situation. In those 55mins they been waiting, they could of been level 50 by now.

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That's not a real solution to the overall problem, it's just a band-aid fix that could only ever effect a minority of the player base, and not even a strong solution for that minority since it would force a number of them to play a job they may not want to play in order to circumvent an issue that doesn't really need to exist in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Mikedizzy

I think that these people who just want a "fast" route to level capping or whatever reason they have for doing that bull crap should grow and play the darn game...stop trying to shortcut the system. People should que for "in progress" just to be a nice player and help the community when players drop the dungeon after getting their loot drop for the week or legitimately losing their connection.

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I usually agree with your points, this one included. I disagree with your harsh tone, but hey, different strokes for different folks. That being said, could you please stop making your text purple? I'm not trying to be rude, but I find it very hard to read and it hurts my eyes.

On topic, I completely support the OP's argument.

Yes to OP and i would like to add that when i login i would like all Allagan weapons already be in my Inventory. Probably a button to max my level and gil would also be good but not important.